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Drug Busts Hit Students Hard (WI Druggies Lose Financial Aid)
Madison.com ^
| July 18, 2005
| Megan Doughty
Posted on 07/18/2005 12:38:06 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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"Rep. Tammy Baldwin, D-Madison, is one of 68 co-sponsors of a bill supported by the student group that would abolish the government's right to deny financial aid based on drug-related offenses, even if a student is convicted while enrolled in college."
One reason among DOZENS why my CongressLesbian has to GO! Grrrrr!!
To: Diana in Wisconsin
"Of course, I can't pick up that kind of slack," Bush said, adding that state aid covers only about half of the $15,000 a year he pays for his education. "So it all just falls on my parents, which I'm not proud of. But I just can't come up with that kind of money."
This slack-brained "university" type will not learn any lesson from that scenario. His parents should say, Gee, sorry, DUDE, but you're going to have to drop out, go to work, and save up the money."
Ten years from now, they'll wish they had done just that.
To: Diana in Wisconsin
That was wrong to take away his financial aid. How is he going to buy more drugs?! (sarc)
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:42:28 PM PDT
by
SIDENET
("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
To: Diana in Wisconsin
"It's sort of like putting a Band-Aid on a gaping wound." But at least it's a step in the right direction.
Many long ages ago, when I was an undergrad at UW-Madcity, I believe you could be ejected from the university for *not* possessing the minimum required drug paraphenalia.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:43:20 PM PDT
by
Flatus I. Maximus
(I did not claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat tofu!)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Baldwin called the current law "incredibly inconsistent" because it targets even the most casual of drug users while ignoring convictions for violent crime.
I don't know what the original motivation was behind the law, but this does seem pretty bizarre that they only target drug law violators.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:45:02 PM PDT
by
andyk
(Go Matt Kenseth!)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
You know they focused on this one case primarily because the students last name was BUSH...
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:48:40 PM PDT
by
frogjerk
To: Diana in Wisconsin
I wonder if they do the same for underage drinkers? If not they should because alcohol is a both more dangerous and likely to be abused.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:49:04 PM PDT
by
TBall
To: frogjerk
Oh. You noticed that, too? ;)
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:50:01 PM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
The underlying problem here is the insane cost of college education, which has been driven to dizzying heights -- FAR outstripping the rate of inflation -- due to federal student aid, which has removed the university from market forces.
As long as the government provides such hefty amounts of financial aid, universities can pretty much charge whatever they want, which means that most kids cannot afford tuition without government financial aid, which means that universities can pretty much charge whatever they want..........
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:50:05 PM PDT
by
Skooz
(Political Correctness will eventually destroy America)
To: andyk
I wonder why the government considers drug use to be worse than rape?
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:51:50 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(For all you love to survive, Islam must be destroyed.)
To: Skooz
Bingo. And also it's the same reason with Medicare that it results it higher medical costs. When people don't care how much something costs, because somebody else is paying the bill, this is what you get.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:51:52 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: dfwgator
And also it's the same reason with Medicare that it results it higher medical costs. Exactly.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:52:58 PM PDT
by
Skooz
(Political Correctness will eventually destroy America)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
What other criminal offenses also lead to the pulling of finanacial aid packages?
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:53:37 PM PDT
by
dmz
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Since there is not an unlimited supply of financial aid, this is as good a way as any to decide how the funds are allocated.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:54:09 PM PDT
by
SmithL
(There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
I hope this is a good lesson to college kids to keep their paraphernalia out of plain sight. I'd recommend a nice little box made out of teak (with a nice green shell inlay depicting a large marijuana leaf) that can be stashed under the seat.
Just a suggestion!
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:54:10 PM PDT
by
montomike
(Gay means happy and carefree...not an abomination against nature's check valve.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Fairly or unfairly, the moral of the story, is that if you take the King's coin you do the King's bidding.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:55:00 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Diana in Wisconsin
It's Bush's fault!
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:55:03 PM PDT
by
Paleo Conservative
(Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
If it targeted all criminals I could understand it but this is bullshit. Plenty of the people here that will applaud this experimented with drugs in the 60s, 70s, and 80s and didn't get caught and now they are playing hardass with someones future. Either take it away for everyone who has ever commited a misdemeanor or no one. If you are D&D no financial aid - get caught with a joint no financial aid. Let's be fair
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:55:39 PM PDT
by
Nov3
("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
To: Skooz
"which means that most kids cannot afford tuition without government financial aid"
Student loans are the key and you can take A LOT out. I went to a private school that was completely paid for by student loans in my name.
The insane cost of college education is definitely a factor, but i would say the reason for overpriced colleges is because parents and the government are paying for school.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:55:40 PM PDT
by
tfecw
(Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
To: thoughtomator
I wonder why the government considers drug use to be worse than rape? Because if they prosecuted rape, it would wreak havoc on NCAA sports.
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posted on
07/18/2005 12:55:54 PM PDT
by
Flatus I. Maximus
(I did not claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat tofu!)
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