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AP: William Westmoreland dead
Associated Press | July 18, 2005

Posted on 07/18/2005 7:57:49 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

breaking, more to come


TOPICS: Announcements; Breaking News; Extended News
KEYWORDS: ap; koreanwarvet; obituary; rip; veteran; vietnamveteran; westmoreland; ww2vet; wwiivet
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1 posted on 07/18/2005 7:57:50 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dont Mention the War
CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Retired Gen. William Westmoreland, who commanded American troops in Vietnam — the nation’s longest, most divisive conflict and the only war America lost — died Monday night. He was 91.

Westmoreland died of natural causes at Bishop Gadsden retirement home, where he had lived with his wife for several years, said his son, James Ripley Westmoreland.

The silver-haired, jut-jawed officer, who rose through the ranks quickly in Europe during World War II and later became superintendent of West Point, contended the United States did not lose the conflict in Southeast Asia.

2 posted on 07/18/2005 7:59:04 PM PDT by JellyJam (Headline of the year: "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists Are Muslims!")
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To: Dont Mention the War

Just pulled from FOXNEWS:

COLUMBIA, S.C. — Retired Gen. William Westmoreland (search), who commanded American troops in Vietnam (search), has died, his son says.


3 posted on 07/18/2005 7:59:37 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Dont Mention the War

He was my general. RIP.


4 posted on 07/18/2005 8:00:27 PM PDT by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: JellyJam

----The silver-haired, jut-jawed officer, who rose through the ranks quickly in Europe during World War II and later became superintendent of West Point, contended the United States did not lose the conflict in Southeast Asia.----

And he was absolutely damned right. RIP, sir.

-Dan

5 posted on 07/18/2005 8:00:27 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: JellyJam
The military did not lose the conflict in SE Asia. The government did.
6 posted on 07/18/2005 8:00:30 PM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: JellyJam

The military did not lose the war. Washington did.


7 posted on 07/18/2005 8:01:13 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: umgud

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8 posted on 07/18/2005 8:01:24 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Dont Mention the War

9 posted on 07/18/2005 8:02:45 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: Iwo Jima
more from AP:

“It’s more accurate to say our country did not fulfill its commitment to South Vietnam,” he said. “By virtue of Vietnam, the U.S. held the line for 10 years and stopped the dominoes from falling.”

He would later say he did not know how history would deal with him.

“Few people have a field command as long as I did,” he said. “They put me over there and they forgot about me. But I was there seven days a week, working 14 to 16 hours a day.

“I have no apologies, no regrets. I gave my very best efforts,” he added. “I’ve been hung in effigy. I’ve been spat upon. You just have to let those things bounce off.”

Later, after many of the wounds caused by the divisive conflict began to heal, Westmoreland led thousands of his comrades in the November, 1982, veterans march in Washington to dedicate the Vietnam War Memorial.

He called it “one of the most emotional and proudest experiences of my life.”

10 posted on 07/18/2005 8:03:38 PM PDT by JellyJam (Headline of the year: "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists Are Muslims!")
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To: Dont Mention the War

Rest in Peace, General. Prayers for the family.


11 posted on 07/18/2005 8:03:41 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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To: cynicom

We lost one other war I can think of, though it was undeclared. We lost in Somalia. I suppose we also lost in Bosnia.


12 posted on 07/18/2005 8:03:50 PM PDT by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: Dont Mention the War

An American Hero, RIP


13 posted on 07/18/2005 8:04:00 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life....)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Didn't dan rather do a hit piece on him in the 80's and rather was proven wrong.


14 posted on 07/18/2005 8:05:07 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dont Mention the War; All

Is same General that got busted by Catcher mitt Mike Wallace of CBS news he sue for libel and Mikey blame him for depression is that same dude


15 posted on 07/18/2005 8:05:14 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Well, the media might take a few seconds away from their Joe Wilson multiple orgasms to gloat over this.

RIP, General Westmoreland. When you can rank perverted scum like the media among your enemies, you've done well.


16 posted on 07/18/2005 8:05:37 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: cynicom
The Washington back seat drivers / The hippie dippies / The feminist / Liberals of the 60's / Democrats / Anti - American's / the MSM lost the war in Vietnam.
17 posted on 07/18/2005 8:05:57 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Dont Mention the War

He did his best, despite restrictions placed on him and his troops by the politicians. This old soldier mourns the loss of a great officer.


18 posted on 07/18/2005 8:07:32 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Dont Mention the War

(Salute) RIP General. You did your best. The government and the Liberal "media" betrayed you and the troops. GBU.


19 posted on 07/18/2005 8:08:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Ingtar

The signs first appeared during the Korean war when we could not bomb across the Yalu, the politicians were running the war. It has been downhill since then.


20 posted on 07/18/2005 8:08:09 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Dont Mention the War

"..the only war America lost."

We did not lose the war. There was a negotiated peace that was signed in Paris. Don't these goofs ever stop?


21 posted on 07/18/2005 8:08:13 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Iwo Jima
The military did not lose the conflict in SE Asia. The government did.

We should not have been there in the first place.

56,000 dead. For nothing.

22 posted on 07/18/2005 8:08:26 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Dont Mention the War

Rest In Peace


23 posted on 07/18/2005 8:09:13 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: umgud

Yep..mine to

Rest in peace sir...

With God's hand's firmly on your loved ones.


24 posted on 07/18/2005 8:09:57 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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25 posted on 07/18/2005 8:12:24 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: zarf

"nothing"

shame on you. not true.


26 posted on 07/18/2005 8:13:19 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: zarf
We should not have been there in the first place.
56,000 dead. For nothing.


John Kerry, is that you?

Shut The F--k Up.
27 posted on 07/18/2005 8:13:33 PM PDT by Mad Mammoth
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To: Dont Mention the War


General William Westmoreland
28 posted on 07/18/2005 8:14:03 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Kathy in Alaska; Fawnn; HiJinx; Radix; Spotsy; Diva Betsy Ross; ...

Notice on the passing of a Warrior.


29 posted on 07/18/2005 8:14:15 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: zencat; tomkow6; Kathy in Alaska; All

OH MAN Ping Canteen list

That dude he is one that sue Catcher mitt Mike Wallace for libel rack him


30 posted on 07/18/2005 8:15:46 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Rip General....you were a patriot.

The Vietnam war was lost at home...not by the military.

31 posted on 07/18/2005 8:17:29 PM PDT by afnamvet (Jet noise...The Sound of Freedom)
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To: zarf

That's nothing compared to the 1.6 million Vietnamese who died under communism.


32 posted on 07/18/2005 8:18:07 PM PDT by sporkgoddess
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To: zarf
56,000 dead. For nothing.

Perhaps a minor detail for you, but we showed the commie pricks that we were willing to fight them anytime and anywhere on the earth, to serve the cause of freedom.
33 posted on 07/18/2005 8:18:09 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: wallcrawlr
shame on you. not true.

Tell them what it was for.


34 posted on 07/18/2005 8:18:27 PM PDT by zarf
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To: JellyJam

years ago, conservative lore included the thought that the death of Lin Piao in a plane crash in Mongolia while purportedly fleeing from Peking to Moscow, in 1969, broke the Red bloc-- he had supposedly been Moscow's man in Peking. Therefore, losing VN in '75 was a far different proposition than it might have been in '65. I'm ashamed to admit, I don't even know what either Nixon or Kissinger said about this.


35 posted on 07/18/2005 8:18:28 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: zencat

He was a handsome man. RIP General.


36 posted on 07/18/2005 8:18:55 PM PDT by lakey
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To: Dont Mention the War
We did not lose the "Vietnam War". We lost the Battle of Vietnam which was a battle of the Cold War which we ultimately won

RIP in peace General, you did your best despite bumbling leadership in Washington and a treasonous media.
37 posted on 07/18/2005 8:19:01 PM PDT by NYFreeper
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To: JellyJam

RIP


38 posted on 07/18/2005 8:19:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (i love my new discounted GMC dually......proud flyoverlander.....bonnie blue out front!)
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To: zarf

"We should not have been there in the first place.

56,000 dead. For nothing."

You could not be more wrong. My comrades did not die in vain. Out of the horror of Vietnam emerged a great army.


39 posted on 07/18/2005 8:19:47 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: JellyJam
the only war America lost

yep...because of you bastards..the media

40 posted on 07/18/2005 8:19:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (i love my new discounted GMC dually......proud flyoverlander.....bonnie blue out front!)
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To: zarf

I have...I thank them every year on holiday and during the year when I meet someone.

Your sorrow over what happened should not diminish their sacrifice. Maybe you didnt mean it quite like you said it but they are worthy of greater honor than your cheap comments.


41 posted on 07/18/2005 8:21:20 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: JellyJam

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1st CAV's 1st Days in Vietnam-1965

(Photos)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set2.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set3.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

(Paramount Pictures website)
http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com

.


42 posted on 07/18/2005 8:21:44 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Dont Mention the War

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/18/AR2005071801713.html


43 posted on 07/18/2005 8:21:55 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: zarf

My Dad's name is on that wall. He strongly disagreed with you.


44 posted on 07/18/2005 8:22:06 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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45 posted on 07/18/2005 8:22:07 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: wardaddy

Especially that SOB Walter Cronkite. I wanted to strangle the bastard. That was when I stopped watching network news, never again.


46 posted on 07/18/2005 8:22:15 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: NYFreeper

nicely put!


47 posted on 07/18/2005 8:22:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (i love my new discounted GMC dually......proud flyoverlander.....bonnie blue out front!)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Can I have a brief moment to doubt the AP?

. . . . the only war America lost . . . .

Uh, no.

We withdrew due to political pressure from leftists like the AP.

48 posted on 07/18/2005 8:23:55 PM PDT by Petronski (So, ma cherie, you like ze boum boum?)
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To: zarf

Zarf...My brothers name is on a wall like that one in Margraten Holland. The dead do not get to pick whether the war is right or wrong. Shame on you for you attitude.


49 posted on 07/18/2005 8:24:21 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: JellyJam

How did we lose a war we didn't declare?


50 posted on 07/18/2005 8:25:40 PM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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