Hugh Hewitt on the The Tancredo Blunder

HughHewitt.com ^ | 07/18/2005 Posted at 5:40 PM, Pacific | Hugh Hewitt

[BykrBayb]

I like your profile page.

[goldstategop]

I don't agree with Hugh on this one. If this country is destroyed by Islamic terrorists... Islam MUST cease to exist. Perhaps that too strong language but I'm not concerned about the fallout of my remarks. Moderate Muslims should do everything they can to stop the extremists among them from doing the unthinkable. Or the unthinkable may well happen to them. Tom Tancredo understandably spoke of a doomsday measure of final resort. I pray it never comes to that but it would be completely foolish to foreclose the Samson Option. Even Hugh knows that and I think where Tom blundered was in allowing the Left and our Islamofascist enemy to paint us as anti-Muslim. While we're not at war Islam, the truth is in this battle, moderate Muslims have a responsibility to make sure their religion is still around by taking on their radicals and reforming it to live in the modern world. 'Nuff said.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[NathanBookman]

Luckily for Tom, as long as the Plame thing is going on, the press does not pay attention to anything else. This is the beauty of Rove's involvement.

[austinite]

Nuking Mecca sounds good to me.

Can I go on the mission?

[iconoclast]

OBL is not a "true believer", he is one who has hijacked an otherwise legitimate religion just for his own perverse advancement.

"True believer" or not, he and his minions are the roots of this pestilence and the keys to exterminating it.

Why he, his training camps, and the Jihadist schools have not long since been annihilated is beyond my ken.

You'll have to ask Mr. Stangegov for that answer.

[the invisib1e hand]

i'm in favor of paving over mecca and making it a racetrack or something.

[iconoclast]

Muslims I've talked to believe Jesus to be Divine

There must be some unusual Muslims in Montana.

The Muslims I've talked to will allow that He is a prophet.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

"We are at war with the true believers of Islam."

So when are you going to do your part to win this war you claim's going on?

[jmc813]

A SCOTUS nomination will sweep Congressman Tancredo's remarks from the headlines, but I hope center-right bloggers will stand up and be counted on this issue.

It amuses the hell out of me to see people still claiming that Hewitt is even remotely conservative.

[Sir Gawain]

So when are you going to do your part to win this war you claim's going on?

Funny how you sound just like the posters on Democratic Underground who say the same thing about all conservatives and the Iraq war. Why aren't you over in Iraq if you support the war effort? As soon as you answer that, I'll answer your question.

[Sir Gawain]

Also, it's not a war I claim is going on. The war is on, regardless of the sugar coated "hijacked our peaceful religion" BS that you seem to believe. If you read my previous link, your line of thinking will be corrected. That's a guarantee.

[wardaddy]

my thoughts as well

[Checkers]

"Again, whether Kennedy said something or not, the impact is zero. The terrorists have plenty of propaganda available already that seems to be doing the job of recruitment just fine."

So you had no problem with what Dick Durbin said?

[FBD]

Like it or not, we are at war with a radical religion, not a country or state. The headquarters is Mecca, and the radical Islamists do in fact pray to Mecca, 5 times per day. They don't pray towards heaven.

Somewhere in the Pentagon, you can damn well guarentee that this option of a small tactical nuke directly on that Moon Rock has been seriously discussed as an option to an Islamic nuclear attack:

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"...lots of sentiment for nuking Mecca... Mecca seems extreme, of course, but then again few people would die and it would send a signal.'' ~ Rich Lowry, Senior Editor, The National Review, March 2002.

"It (Mecca) plays a central role in Muslim worship. Five times a day Muslims pray toward it. All Muslims who have the means are expected to make the Hajj--a pilgrimage to Mecca which revolves around the Kaaba stone.

The Kaaba stone is really the reason Mecca is considered holy. Muslims believe the site was used for worship as far back as Adam and that the shrine around the stone was first placed there by Abraham (Ibrahim). There is a 12 mile zone around the stone that infidels are restricted from entering. It's that holy. No non-Muslims near it. In fact, without Mecca and the Kaaba stone, Islam would be very different.

Islamist terrorists also consider Mecca the holiest place in the world. It is central to their mode of worship. They face it when they pray. They too believe they must make the hajj. If we take them at their word, then the reason they commit terrorist acts is because they take their religious convictions so seriously. When they kill us, it is because they believe that this is what their God wants them to do.

"There has been a rumor floating in the Washington ether for some time now that George Bush has figured out what Sword of Damocles is suspended over Osama bin Laden's head. It's whispered among Capitol Hill staffers on the intel and armed services committees; White House NSC (National Security Council) members clam up tight if you begin to hint at it; and State Department neo-cons love to give their liberal counterparts cardiac arrhythmia by elliptically conversing about it in their presence.

The whispers and hints and ellipses are getting louder now because the rumor explains the inexplicable: Why hasn't there been a repeat of 9-11? How can it be that after this unimaginable tragedy and Osama's constant threats of another, we have gone over three years without a single terrorist attack on American soil?"

Available only to subscribers of To the Point, Wheeler ends his column by explaining the effectiveness of the Mecca threat.

"Completely obliterating the terrorists' holiest of holies, rendering what is for them the world's most sacred spot a radioactive hole in the ground is retribution of biblical proportions – and those are the only proportions that will do the job.

"Osama would have laughed off such a threat, given his view that Americans are wussies who cut and run after a few losses, such as Lebanon in 1983 and Somalia in 1993. Part of Bush's rationale for invading Afghanistan and Iraq – obviously never expressed publicly – was to convince Osama that his threat to nuke Mecca was real. Osama hates America just as much as ever, but he is laughing no more." ~ Dr. Jack Wheeler; 'To the Point'

http://mightyrighty.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-353.html

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A War Between Civilizations

The Koran sees the world as divided into two — one part which has come under Islamic rule and one part which is supposed to come under Islamic rule in the future. There is a division of the world which is very clear. Every single person who starts studying Islam knows it.

The world is described as Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) — that's the place where Islam rules — and the other part which is called Dar al-Harb — the house of war. Not the "house of non-Muslims," but the "house of war." It is this house of war which as to be, at the end of time, conquered.

The world will continue to be in the house of war until it comes under Islamic rule." [snip]

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[Checkers]

"You are either dense .. or just going off the cliff to defend Tancredo."

A distinction without a difference.

[Checkers]

"I don't have time to wade through this whole thread but before I go I want to say that I agree with Hewitt. We have a lot of keyboard Rambos on FR so just let them have their fun. They are safe knowing no one is going to follow their silly advice."

Thank God they aren't in Congress or running for President.

[Checkers]

"Every active Muslim worldwide is knowingly giving money for murder in the vast monetary network that is funding terrorism."

All 1 billion of them?

[agincourt1415]

Checkers, if we would nuke a Russian Tank Division crossing into West Germany in the Cold War, why would we not respond with Nuclear Weapons if one of our cities was struck by a Nuke and it came from Islamic Terrorists?

Of course we have already threatened as a deterant, to hit rogue nations, and I would think we have already threatened Mecca, it is suggested that has stopped any Islamists from taking action in America.

Nuclear Weapons are on the table, and have been there since before I left Europe in the early 80s.

Tancredo was a definite Psyop Message that reached to Pakistan.

[Sir Gawain]

So you had no problem with what Dick Durbin said?

Yes I had a problem with his comments, but it's apples and oranges when compared to Tancredo's. Durbin's comments hurt troop morale, nothing more. If anything, Tancredo's comments would boost troop morale.

[agincourt1415]

I am amazed at how many Americans, just not understanding Nuclear Deterance.

There is no excuse for Freepers not to know.

Thanks for posting this.