.. Are you kidding me??
Where the heck have you been these last few years??
Posted on 07/18/2005 10:58:49 PM PDT by Checkers
The strategic value is in the threat, not the action.
You've yet to disprove what Mo1 said, because you have the inability to think outside the box.
Which nation are we at war with today, Einstein?
The Soviets controlled the State.
Contrary to belief, they were only willing to sacrifice the lives of their people. Their own hides were ranked too important to lose to a nuclear fallout.
The terrorists do not own a state. They have friendly authoritative regimes, but this is not quite the same. Those regimes do not control an army that will stand down at request. The terrorists operate independent of these regimes' wishes, nor do they fear the end of any life including their own.
Bombing Mecca would be tantamount to taking two steps backward.
Again, whether Kennedy said something or not, the impact is zero. The terrorists have plenty of propaganda available already that seems to be doing the job of recruitment just fine.
They don't fear death. They fear not being able to reach paradise. Their weakness is not that complicated.
.. Are you kidding me??
Where the heck have you been these last few years??
Yeah, that's Mullah Tancredo's spin, too. "I was just threatening. If it were in my power I'd never really do it!"
Well, they can brainwash themselves with propaganda, but the truth of the matter is, public perception has changed in the Middle East because the terrorists have allowed Islamics in the Middle East to side with the "infidels" with their own actions, like bombing mosques and desecrating Korans. The terrorists have hijacked a religion, they aren't following any theology taught in the Koran, they are merely perversing the words of the Koran for their own gain.
I guess you're right. Words just keep pushing those moderate Muslims into the arms of terrorists. If only they had the most basic of reasoning abilities to resist that propaganda. < /sarcasm >
I fail to understand your point.
1) I stated they do not fear death. I assume you are agreeing with me?
2) Explain how fear of not reaching paradise can be exploited if Mecca is bombed (or threatened danger). In such an instance, according to the twisted belief of the extremist, this would result in the promised paradise. Whereas Refusing to sentence them all to an early death and Global Jihad by virtue of releasing atomic weaponry to carpet the Middle east, would result in denial of their dream of numerous virgens in heaven.
Agree .. it would have very little strategic value .. plus it would make the Muslims over there go even more crazy
Which would end up making the WOT harder to fight .. Our troops don't need that .. they know what they are doing and yjey know how to fight a war
They are our Best of the Best!
Can't say the same about some in Congress
Actually the terrorists are following the Koran just as they are supposed to be. The moderates are the radicals ignoring the teachings. Just study the history of Islam and you will see which is the dominant and correct view of following the teachings.
Can't say the same about some in Congress
Islam is a "holy place" religion. It is not at all like global Christianity or post-Second Temple Judaism which can function well with only a symbolic or metaphorical reference to the Holy Land and Jerusalem.
Every good Muslim who can MUST go to Mecca. So the precepts of the religion are fundamentally different from contemporary Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc, and the bombing, nuclear or otherwise, would be a devastating blow to Islam's core identity.
As I outlined, there would be leaders and scholars who would transfer devotions to Medina, but this would not be universal and Islam would fracture into a wide variety of smaller sects some more spiritualised, some built on exacting blood revenge by eliminating all Americans.
You are either dense .. or just going off the cliff to defend Tancredo
But of course, once Muslim terrorists have nuked Atlanta, for example, most every American will want Mecca AND Medina nuked... including many who profess otherwise now. It is the way of things.
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