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Hugh Hewitt on the The Tancredo Blunder
HughHewitt.com ^ | 07/18/2005 Posted at 5:40 PM, Pacific | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 07/18/2005 10:58:49 PM PDT by Checkers

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To: taxesareforever

Sorry, but there's no strategic value to nuking Mecca. The author is correct.

However, he's wrong about Islam. Islam is opposed to everything the libs stand for--diversity, feminism, abortion, etc. If the US became an Islamic nation, the libs would be the first ones forced to submit or die.

Make no doubt, this is a culture war, and we could lose it if we don't care about our culture more than they care about theirs. No matter what else you think about the terrorists, they are obviously willing to lay down their lives for the cause.

Fortunately, we still have good people who believe in the freedoms Western Civilization and Judeo-Christian morality have brought to this great nation. All is not lost as long as patriots still outnumber traitors.


61 posted on 07/18/2005 11:56:40 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: Mo1

I agree with you that it doesn't help the cause, but I also fail to see any negative repurcussions from it. You seem to think that by not saying something like that, maybe one less terrorist will be recruited because of one less snipit of propaganda. I just don't believe that.


62 posted on 07/18/2005 11:56:44 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: Sir Gawain
.. Oh Good Grief .. stop putting words in my mouth .. it's so annoying
63 posted on 07/18/2005 11:57:19 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Cultural Jihad

Blah blah blah blah


64 posted on 07/18/2005 11:57:39 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: Mo1

"I don't like when this BS comes from Biden or Kennedy ... I'm not going to like it when it comes from Tancredo"

Sounds like your Moral Compass is functioning properly.


65 posted on 07/18/2005 11:57:50 PM PDT by Checkers
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To: Cultural Jihad
Next the Satanic Right will salivate at the idea of suspending the Constitution so that they can round up the infidels and force their conversions, and torture those they suspect of backsliding.

Next? You've been at it for years!

66 posted on 07/18/2005 11:57:51 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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To: Brimack34
While I am not sure that it is something that we should do, even in the last resort, I think it is valuable to remind certain persons that it is something that we COULD do, and something that we MIGHT do, if we got irritated enough.

A week and a day ago, I became painfully aware that there was a nest of yellow jackets in my front yard. A week ago, there was no longer a nest of yellow jackets. Had they not stung me, I would have left them alone. Insects may not benefit by foreknowledge, but humans might.

VietVet
67 posted on 07/18/2005 11:58:34 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: MitchellC
Fair enough, but what do you think the reaction of all those 'fake' believers of Islam would be to the nuking of Mecca? 'Oh well, I didn't really believe in it anyway' ? Of course not.

And you think that your next door neighbor businessman that is a Muslim will all of a sudden strap on a suicide belt if Mecca is bombed? You also seem to hold "moderate" Muslims in low regard if you think they are that easily incited.

68 posted on 07/18/2005 11:59:42 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: Sir Gawain
You seem to think that by not saying something like that, maybe one less terrorist will be recruited because of one less snipit of propaganda

What I am saying is the politicians up in Congress some times need to shut their big fat mouths and just let the military, the President and those who actually know what they are doing .. do their job

69 posted on 07/18/2005 11:59:44 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: BigSkyFreeper

yep


70 posted on 07/19/2005 12:00:22 AM PDT by Checkers
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To: Checkers
Well posed question. IMO, very few Freepers posting in here tonight have a clue as to the genesis and totality of the Islamic threat; but fire off simplistic, off the wall solutions to a challenge that will be us for decades!
71 posted on 07/19/2005 12:00:43 AM PDT by dk/coro
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To: Sir Gawain
Needless to say, we'll never see you in the evening news holding up your bloodied hands and ululating after burning down a mosque and slaughtering our supposed enemies. No, the Salon Bolsheviki are so sure of the righteousness of their cause, but are themselves never willing to prove how sure they are by actually fighting what they claim to believe in, even unto self-sacrificing themselves, as that task always belongs to others to prove.

It all points to your being a five-star phony.

72 posted on 07/19/2005 12:01:24 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Mo1

Putting words in your mouth? Hardly. This is indeed your argument. You specifically clarified it for me in an earlier post:

"So your argument is that terrorists will use Tancredo's statement to recruit more terrorists."


73 posted on 07/19/2005 12:01:39 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: Cultural Jihad

You must just type out replies to read your own words, because no one else is paying attention.


74 posted on 07/19/2005 12:03:04 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: Checkers
Hewitt is ignorant.

Nuclear response for certain attacks is a NATO doctrine, even the winie Germans and French, understand the principals.

A massive attack deserves a massive response, to the dearest targets of the enemy.

And the other thing is make certain, our exact response is understood by the enemy ahead of their actions.

75 posted on 07/19/2005 12:04:28 AM PDT by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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To: Sir Gawain
"So your argument is that terrorists will use Tancredo's statement to recruit more terrorists."

Do I know for a fact they will??

No I don't

And I only hope they don't .. because our military and intelligence agencies already have enough to deal with

76 posted on 07/19/2005 12:04:32 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: CitizenUSA
Sorry, but there's no strategic value to nuking Mecca. The author is correct.

You're missing the point. There was no strategic value or net positive of wiping out the entire country of Russia with a nuclear warhead during the Cold War, but they knew the threat was there. If hardcore Muslims thought that we had our finger on the trigger waiting to wipe out their holiest site and the promise of stuffing their corpses with pig entrails so they wouldn't reach paradise, they might still hate us but they might also think twice about attacking us.

77 posted on 07/19/2005 12:05:47 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: Mo1
What I am saying is the politicians up in Congress some times need to shut their big fat mouths and just let the military, the President and those who actually know what they are doing .. do their job
Among the lessons not learned from Vietnam is that politicians make bad generals, even if they happen to have an "R" next to their names.

There's no need to "nuke" or bomb Mecca. I'd think if we lost a little more cultural sensitivity in places like Iraq we'd get a helluva lot farther in the WoT than bombing Mecca would get us.

Bombing Mecca would be about the same as someone bombing the Statue of Liberty: very, very little strategic value. Don't get me wrong; I'd laugh my worthless a** off if it actually happened, but I don't see it advancing the cause very far.

78 posted on 07/19/2005 12:08:02 AM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: Mo1

I'm just not convinced that a politician's words about Islam will increase a military threat. It's a negative politically, yes, but that's about it.


79 posted on 07/19/2005 12:08:05 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (When in doubt, cite the Commerce Clause)
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To: Sir Gawain
I'm just not convinced that a politician's words about Islam will increase a military threat. It's a negative politically, yes, but that's about it.

I suppose you missed it when Al Sadr was quoting Ted Kennedy huh?

80 posted on 07/19/2005 12:09:11 AM PDT by Mo1
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