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SOUTER IN ROBERTS CLOTHING, ANN COULTER
Ann Coulter.com ^ | 7-30-05 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 07/20/2005 7:33:31 AM PDT by Babu

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To: Stellar Dendrite

The unfortunate truth many don't want to hear.


661 posted on 07/20/2005 1:42:21 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry: 3 fake Purple Hearts. George Bush: one REAL heart of gold.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888; All
" believe it became obvious to FR management that there are people like us (and even like Ann Coulter, for gawds sake) that have an alternative opinion at times. I have seen far more tolerance of alternative opinion at FR which has made this site a far better site. Cheerleading sites are not taken seriously, and FR has moved away from that and now is a more serious site for discussion."

I think what you want is a cheer leading site. What you seem to be advocating is that we "celebrate diversity". You want every opinion, no matter how utterly stupid or purely ideologically driven, to be embraced JUST BECAUSE it is different. That is not the point of this site. What makes this site so valuable is the intellectual rigor with which ideas are challenged. We are not some sort of cyber "self-estem group". If you want to have "Alternative opinions" have the intellectual honesty to stand up and defend them. Don't get trapped in the "leftist" mindset that just because you feel something makes it true.
662 posted on 07/20/2005 1:43:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well, first off, I would suspect that at the bottom of all those relentless emails you're getting is a line something like "Please send a donation to help us support the nomination of John Roberts." Also, just because a group is conservative doesn't make them any less gullible than a liberal group. I am not even necessarily claiming that these groups are wrong. All I'm saying is that, in large part, it is wishful thinking to state that John Roberts is a diehard conservative. We've got people looking at what groups his wife belongs to and how many children he has to determine whether he may overturn Roe v. Wade. We have people pointing to the brief he helped write for the first Bush Administration which opined that Roe was wrongly decided and should be revisited. Lawyers are taught to put forth viewpoints on behalf of their client that they themselves may not necessarily believe in.
We all want to believe that John Roberts is an originalist and will interpret the Constitution that way. My point is, and has been, that John Roberts doesn't have a record of the caliber of, say a Judge Samuel Alito, or Judge Emilio Garza or Edith Hollans Jones, where you can point to decision after decision after decision and say, "now, that's based on an originalist interpretation of the document." So, it becomes very difficult to actually ascertain his true judicial philosophy. Part of the reason he doesn't, is, of course, that he hasn't been on the Appeals Court for very long. Secondly, he seems to have taken pains in the past to dissociate himself from positions that might generate controversy. If he decided an issue based on a particular philosophy, he should be able to articulate it and defend it....not try to make himself the smallest target possible. To me, it seems we are so worried that there is a battle coming during confirmation that we are trying to minimize the arguments. That is a liberal strategy. You pass yourself off as something innocuous. What I'm saying is that, if John Roberts believes in an originalist philosophy of interpreting the Constitution (which we can't really tell because of the paucity of his record), he (or any nominee) should be able to explain the rationale for such a decision. Whether you believe this was a good nomination depends on several factors. First, I think he is obviously better than Gonzales would have been. But, then, that little voice whispers to me wondering if that might not have been a bit of strategy in and of itself....float a name of someone unsuitable to the base, then name a relative unknown....we'd be too busy breathing a sigh at dodging the Gonzales bullet that we'd forget that we only have some people's word that this guy is the real deal. Again, let me emphasize, other than one or two decisions that might indicate he could be a future swing vote there is not enough evidence to judge definitively either way, which, considering the importance of the position for which he's been nominated, and the other available candidates in whom we could have more confidence. For example, his comments in his dissent in Rancho Viejo v. Norton, in which he dissented from the decision of the court the Constitutionality of the Endangered Species Act arises from the Commerce Clause of the Constitution sounds like a good originalist reading of the Constitution...but then he goes further and urges that they could find other reasons to uphold the act, which sounds a bit activist to me. In any case, all I'm saying is that there were better choices to make than this one. We don't know, from his opinions, his judicial philosophy. We have heard more than once that a President has nominated a "solid" conservative only to have them become the next swing vote. In order to make confirmation easier, they have again chosen a judge that affords the smallest target. That is a good strategy for a rabbit in a field, but not for your pick for a lifetime position deciding matters of Constitutionality especially when you had available other potential nominees about whom you had little doubt.


663 posted on 07/20/2005 1:46:45 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: old and tired

No need for apology. We all do it. We get about halfway through one of these long threads (500 replies or greater) and see a comment that we want to respond to, not realizing someone else has already made our brilliant point for us about 50 posts down the line!


664 posted on 07/20/2005 1:48:31 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: jbstrick
"Damn, you have got to love her. Now, Post some pictures."

Here's my favorite of Ann.


665 posted on 07/20/2005 1:49:54 PM PDT by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Man did you miss the target.

By light years!

I want a site where the truth can be spoken. A site where research and fact are accepted when it runs contrary to the cheerleaders.

Your analysis collapsed--I suggest you read a bit closer before posting.


666 posted on 07/20/2005 1:50:35 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry: 3 fake Purple Hearts. George Bush: one REAL heart of gold.)
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
Well said.

I have been saying on these threads for the past few days that for all the trouble we will have to go through regardless, we ought to have more assurance about what we are actually fighting for. All we have right now, as far as I can determine, is a guy who is very bright and has built a solid resume but, as you said, no real track record to give us insight into a philosophy you can hang your hat on.

667 posted on 07/20/2005 1:52:34 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Babu
I love Ann Coulter for the way she bashes liberals, but for once she should have kept her pretty little mouth shut!

Just watch, this will be used against Bush and Republicans by the same liberal Democrats she loves to bash.

Maybe Roberts is not the perfect conservative she and others wish Bush had nominated, but all indications are he is a solid Republican; and will base his judgments on the Constitution of the United States and not some stupid European law.

Ann Coulter should have remembered the words of Ronald Reagan and not speak harshly of a fellow Republican.
668 posted on 07/20/2005 1:53:21 PM PDT by TexanByBirth
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Ping.


669 posted on 07/20/2005 2:03:31 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Tribune7
Feminists for Life

Is that some kind of oxymoron?

670 posted on 07/20/2005 2:05:20 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal.4:16)
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To: BlackElk

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_1871.shtml

These guys aren't too excited about Roberts, either, although IMHO this is a speedbump complaint, not a roadblock.

Until, of course, HRC becomes Der Fuhrer...


671 posted on 07/20/2005 2:11:38 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: meandog
Kenneth Starr?

The guy who couldn't put away the most corrupt President in history?

LOL!

672 posted on 07/20/2005 2:12:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal.4:16)
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To: TexanByBirth

Ummmnnnhhh...by your dictum, cretins like Spectral Specter, John McPain, and others, would be immune from criticism for their ridiculous, abhorrent, and deviant positions.

RR nodded on that one. Don't make the same error.


673 posted on 07/20/2005 2:19:48 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Yes, that is my only worry. While I like and admire President Bush, for a nomination of this magnitude, I'd have been much more comfortable with someone about whom there was little doubt where he stood with regard to judicial philosophy. I have also been very frank in that I don't want a conservative judge because I dislike judicial activism, whether from the left or from the right. I want an originalist, one who will interpret the document as written and as understood at the time of its adoption. By happy coincidence, the vast majority of conservative positions agree with originalist interpretations. If they aren't, however, then we need to walk the talk and persuade our fellow citizens to passing laws to reflect any conservative beliefs we value that are not reflected in the Constitution, as Justice Scalia repeatedly scolds the liberals to do.


674 posted on 07/20/2005 2:20:48 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Lancey Howard
I think there is some deep thinking going on in the Bush White House.

Replace a moderate with some a little more conservative.

Replace Rehnquist, a conservative with another solid conservative.

The goal is to change the ideological makeup of the Court.

If we could swing one vote our way, that is all it would take.

If one of the liberal judges retire during the next three years, expect to have a moderate put in, moving the Court even more to the Right.

In the end, all judical nominations are unknown quality.

Ike believed that the worst decision he made during his Presidency was putting Earl Warrren in.

675 posted on 07/20/2005 2:20:55 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal.4:16)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Starr is a LOT less "conservative" than most people think, and an incompetent, to boot--as you observe.


676 posted on 07/20/2005 2:21:07 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: fortheDeclaration
It's for real. Patricia Heaton chairs it.
677 posted on 07/20/2005 2:22:18 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Steve_Seattle
Not to get off on a tangent here, but I was taught that Roe V. Wade basically says:

In the first trimester, no one can interfere with a woman's "right" to an abortion.

In the second trimester, the states can put some limits on this "right" within certain limits.

In the third trimester abortion is only allowed if a woman's health/life is in danger.

It is bad law on many levels, not the least of them is the fact that it is de facto legislation put out by the Supreme Court which has no constitutional power to do so. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court is the "final" say on what is and what is not constitutional, so they got away with it. It points out a gaping hole in our constitutional checks and balances. Technically, the constitution doesn't even make the Supreme Court the arbiter of what is and isn't constitutional. They decided that themselves in Marbury vs. Madison...

Anyway, as much as I would like to see the Supreme Court reverse R v W, they would need a clear cut case brought to them that covers all aspects of the decision and that is not going to happen. R v W will have to be dismantled brick by blood drenched brick. If we are smart, we will do it slow, but steadily...
678 posted on 07/20/2005 2:23:23 PM PDT by Crusher138 (Support capitalism. Shop, buy, rinse, repeat.)
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To: Tribune7
Feminism is based on the false view that the woman has a right to decide if the fetus is a child or not.

How does Feminists for Life differ from that Goddess philosophy?

Would they outlaw abortions as murder?

679 posted on 07/20/2005 2:25:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal.4:16)
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To: Babu

Assinine article. Yep, despite Roberts being in the Federalist Society, clerking for Reinquist, and running in GOP cicles all his life, he's really a closeted liberal.


680 posted on 07/20/2005 2:26:03 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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