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Remark stirs up Muslim world
The Denver Post ^ | 7/20/2005 | Mike Soraghan and Manny Gonzales

Posted on 07/20/2005 4:03:58 PM PDT by neverdem

Turk: Tancredo just "a fanatic"

Washington - Turkey's foreign minister Tuesday condemned Rep. Tom Tancredo as a "fanatic" as the Colorado Republican's comments about bombing Muslim holy sites in retaliation for a terrorist nuclear strike echoed around the world.

"This was nothing but a fanatic speaking completely personally, irresponsibly and without thought of how far his statements would reach or what kind of problems they would create," Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul said, according to Turkey's Anatolia news agency.

Meanwhile, the U.S. State Department labeled Tancredo's remarks Friday on a radio talk show "insulting to Islam," and Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean joined the chorus of those calling on the Littleton Republican to apologize.

Tancredo's 6th District constituents interviewed Tuesday mostly criticized their congressman's comments.

"Tancredo's stirring up a lot of trouble that doesn't need to be stirred," said Melinda Pride, 39, a Douglas County resident who said she is a Bush supporter. "Just to say we'll attack one group of people if we're attacked is dumb."

But another Douglas County Republican - Curt Clint, 37 - sided with Tancredo. "I think he said what a lot of people are thinking, and I think that a lot of the things he said need to be discussed and looked at."

"I'm fanatically devoted to the security of America," Tancredo said Tuesday in an interview, responding to the Turkish official's comments. "If that qualifies me (as a fanatic), then so I am."

He also said he couldn't care less what Republican or Democratic party officials think, dismissed the State Department as "tepid," and said that if a Muslim group wants to try to unseat him the next election, "that's the American way. ... Wouldn't it be nice if it were that way around the entire Middle East?"

Discussing on a Florida radio show Friday how the United States might respond to a nuclear strike inside the country by Islamic extremists, Tancredo suggested, "You could take out their holy sites."

The host said, "You're talking about bombing Mecca," and Tancredo replied, "Yeah."

Walid Phares, professor of Middle East studies at Florida Atlantic University, said Tancredo's remarks are starting to reach the Arab world. Articles about the comments ran on the Arabic-language television network al-Jazeera and in the Turkish Daily News.

"It has begun," said Phares, also a senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies in Washington. "It hasn't reached the level of Koran abuse at Guantanamo, but that will depend on the American media."

In Washington, State Department spokesman Adam Ereli stressed in the department's daily briefing that Tancredo's comments were not representative of the U.S. government.

"We periodically see, you know, remarks or comments that are insulting to Islam," Ereli said in response to a question about the comments. "Speaking on behalf of the United States government, let me say that we respect Islam as a religion, we respect its holy sites."

But Michael Rubin, who follows the Middle East for the American Enterprise Institute, said many Arabs will view Tancredo's comments as official government policy because he's a congressman. "At the very least, they will consider it a trial balloon," Rubin said.

Rafaat Ludin, president of the Colorado Muslim Society, said Tuesday that if Tancredo doesn't apologize, his group will join with "interfaith partners" to try to block Tancredo's re-election in his heavily Republican district, where Tancredo has been elected four times by lopsided margins.

The Muslim council and others are still seeking a meeting with Tancredo.

Tancredo didn't get much support from his fellow Colorado Republicans.

GOP Sen. Wayne Allard "does not believe we should bomb Mecca," said spokeswoman Angela de Rocha.

Several other party leaders declined to comment.

But Republican Rep. Joel Hefley of Colorado Springs came to Tancredo's defense, saying his colleague's remarks might help some in the Middle East understand how seriously the United States views terrorism.

"He doesn't, of course, advocate bombing Mecca," said Hefley spokeswoman Kim Sears, but "he thinks Tancredo's remarks might even help. Perhaps it will emphasize the seriousness of this kind of attack before it gets out of hand."

"The man is crazy," said the Rev. Brian McCaffrey, 53, a Lutheran pastor from Highlands Ranch who said he voted Democratic in the last election.

"What seems crazy to me is there's no way this country is going to get people to like us if we're talking about blowing up holy sites," McCaffrey said. "We just get angry and stupid and begin acting like a schoolyard bully when what we need to do is talk to each other and try to settle our differences."

Staff writer Mike Soraghan can be reached at 202-662-8730 or msoraghan@denverpost.com.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushbotrage; tomtancredo; turkey
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To: GSlob

You are right , the beheadings did not even make them take notice, and they just did not care, and they really do need some of their own medicine, for I think it would work better on them than ours.


21 posted on 07/20/2005 4:26:24 PM PDT by tessalu
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To: neverdem

Grab a violin and sing me a sob story. The middle-eastern muslims scream 'Death to America' all day every day, they torture-murder "collaborators" in the streets, they treat their women like garbage, and they engage in honor killings (that is, government sanctioned murder of family members for the flimsiest reasons imaginable). But a remark from a single senator just brutalizes their poor fragile little psyches and they're just oh-so-offended. I hope they're so pissed off that they can't even see straight.


22 posted on 07/20/2005 4:27:08 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: neverdem
We should've burned Mecca to the ground on Sept. 12th, 2001. Since the muslims have such a fetish for blowing up landmarks, it's too bad we don't have the strength or will to hit them where it really hurts.

The middle eastern countries had better get their religious leaders in line. They won't like it when we take care of these problems for them.

23 posted on 07/20/2005 4:30:56 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: neverdem
"What seems crazy to me is there's no way this country is going to get people to like us if we're talking about blowing up holy sites,"

Good idea. Let's set a goal to appease our enemies. Why didn't we think of that during World War II?
24 posted on 07/20/2005 4:37:13 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: neverdem
I guess the Muslims expect us to set around with our hands tied behind our backs while they brutalize , behead, and bomb us!
25 posted on 07/20/2005 4:37:41 PM PDT by mountainlyons (alienated vet)
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To: neverdem
Turkey's foreign minister Tuesday condemned Rep. Tom Tancredo as a "fanatic"

OK ... that's progress ... one fanatic for us and maybe 100,000 fanatics for them ... it's a start. My solution to dealing with these Muslim eggheads is this ... if a bomb goes off in our city, ten mosques in our city turn to rubble. If a second bomb goes off, 100 mosques go poof. If terrorist bombs continue and we run out of mosques, then we branch out to the Mideast and annihilate every 'holy site' GPS can hold in its sights. Islam has declared war on the infidels ... let's give them what they asked for.

26 posted on 07/20/2005 4:38:52 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

One of these days Osama, pow right in the kisser. We need to hit them so hard they cant hit back, they started this ball game and we need to put a stop to it whatever the cost.


27 posted on 07/20/2005 4:41:36 PM PDT by teancumspirit (Let us think, then do)
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To: Graybeard58

Thanks for the link. The frontpage sidebar mod yanked this from the frontpage.


28 posted on 07/20/2005 4:43:44 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

"Remark stirs up Muslim world"

And what doesn't stir up the Moslem world? I seems to me they live in a state of constant turmoil and anger. Sadly they misdiresct it and blame others for their misery with tragic results.
If truly moderate Muslims exist they need to get a grip and exercise some self control over their co-religionists so we don't have to do so, but I seriously doubt they will.


29 posted on 07/20/2005 4:44:33 PM PDT by kalee (No burka for me...EVER!)
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To: neverdem
Every other day Muslims call for Jihad and the murder of Americans and non believers. North Korea has promised to bury us in a sea of fire. Iran has pledged to destroy us. Where is the world's outrage? Anybody? So why should we care if the world is pissed off or not. They sure aren't looking out for us.
I remember another thread that posted a history professor's essay about the difference in our societies. It went something like: "You burn flags in the streets while we burn down civilizations to the ground." Basically it was a premise that Western civilization is quite good at war and genocide, so it probably isn't a good idea to tick us off enough to demonstrate it.
He had a point.
30 posted on 07/20/2005 4:45:24 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: neverdem

the muslims make empty threats to our civilization, we could take out thiers in a heartbeat if we ever really wanted to


31 posted on 07/20/2005 4:47:45 PM PDT by antti tuuri
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To: Spok

"Remark stirs up Muslim world"
It's too bad the televised beheadings don't."

Exactly.



Stir this!!


32 posted on 07/20/2005 4:51:51 PM PDT by Voir Dire (Modern liberalism is a Communist plot)
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To: neverdem
Remark stirs up Muslim World"...

Well, it's about time something stirred it up!

... 9/11 didn't

... Bali didn't

... the Spanish bombings didn't

... the London bombings didn't

... hundreds of other assorted atrocities didn't

...

... but Tancredo's remarks did!

Well, it's nice to know something gets them stirred. That's some sort of progress!

33 posted on 07/20/2005 4:57:41 PM PDT by Gritty ("Multiculturalism projects Islam into the unprotected heart of Western civilization - Diana West)
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To: neverdem
Remark stirs up Muslim world

OMG!

They were all such warm, fuzzy darling little Ewoks last week...

34 posted on 07/20/2005 4:58:59 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: samadams2000
If you get sand REALLY hot it turns to glass. I say light the rag-heads up, rename the entire chithole Glassland and check back in about 1500 yrs.

That would get you a real "Religion of Peace".

Allah FUBAR!

35 posted on 07/20/2005 5:04:53 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Tom Tancredo = The American Street.

Don't mess with us or our friends, Islamofascists.


36 posted on 07/20/2005 5:10:44 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: neverdem
"What seems crazy to me is there's no way this country is going to get people to like us if we're talking about blowing up holy sites," McCaffrey said.

Earth To McCaffery:

They aren't going to like us. They HATE OUR GUTS and want us DEAD, including appeasers like you.

Their OddGod™ says so.

They can froth at the mouth and scream for megadeaths all day, and it's a GOOD THING. Let ONE person state what thousands think on this side of the issue, and what do the Odd People do, but gesture threateningly like apes at the waterhole, and feign outrage that someone else would dare to use their invective.

37 posted on 07/20/2005 5:11:46 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Gorzaloon

OddGod?


38 posted on 07/20/2005 5:16:24 PM PDT by Brandon_Hill
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To: neverdem
Well, I guess we're just going to have to sing about it -- click
39 posted on 07/20/2005 5:26:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: neverdem

"It hasn't reached the level of Koran abuse at Guantanamo, but that will depend on the American media."


hmmmm..... the truth appears in the most unlikely places


40 posted on 07/20/2005 5:42:57 PM PDT by dila813
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