Skip to comments.House, Senate OK Daylight-Saving Extension
Posted on 07/21/2005 7:50:19 PM PDT by SmithL
WASHINGTON -- An agreement was reached Thursday to extend daylight-saving time in an effort to conserve energy, but not to the extent the House approved in April.
House and Senate negotiators on an energy bill agreed to begin daylight-saving time three weeks earlier, on the second Sunday in March, and extend it by one week to the first Sunday in November. The House bill would have added a month in the spring and another in the fall.
According to some senators, farmers complained that a two-month extension could adversely affect livestock, and airline officials said it would have complicated scheduling of international flights.
"We ought to take a hard look at this before we jump into it," said Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, who questioned how much oil savings the extension would produce.
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aren't the current dates programmed into every VCR and computers that self adjust the time?
reminds me of that line from O Brother Where Art Thou: "Oh, George, not the livestock!"
For my money, here in Missouri we would welcome extra daylight in the evening year round.
An earlier report mentioned something that had not ocurred to me before. That the real complication with changing daylight savings is co-ordinating it with Canada.
Hey, I've got an idea! Why not just make it illegal for the sun to set? That should save a whole lot of energy, especially when coupled with the new extended DST.
Of course it's true... check with hoaxbusters or ask anyone at DU!
Everyday I thank God that I live in a state that doesn't fool with this moronic idea. Yeah, the Navajos observe daylight savings time but they only do it to antagonize the white man.
Here's an idea: ABOLISH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Useless in today's world.
And there's certainly no problem in adjusting railroad schedules anymore.
Winter - Ahead, Fall - Back, just doesn't cut it.
I like it for the spring. It is tough getting our Little League practices in, after I get home from work, and before it gets dark, here on the 43rd parallel. Not a problem after the time switches tho.
We should move daylight savings ahead by 12 hours. That would REALLY save a lot of energy.
Yippie, it's 1973 again, where did I put that DeFranco Family record? B-) I remember then Congress did the same thing and a lot of parents complained about sending the kids to school in the dark. I was in 1st grade then and we had to use flashlights to go to the bus stop. It was fun playing "German Spotlight" and "Star Trek phaser" though. B-)
>>>a two-month extension could adversely affect livestock<<<
I must be dense, I still can't figure out how the Livestock will ever know.
As it is I have half of my time pieces an hour off at any given time of the year, I've never been much of a Clock Watcher
Not where I live, friend. Without DST, the sky would begin brightening at 3:30am and we'd have full daylight by 4:15am from about early May through late July. Sorry, but I get little enough sleep as it is. In December and January, the sun wouldn't rise until after 8:00am, resulting (as it did last time this was tried) in more rush-hour auto accidents. Thanks, but no thanks.
It won't save energy, any more than you can cool your kitchen by leaving the fridge door open (think about it).
And every industrial and manufacturing computers that run manufacturing machines. This is going to be worse than Y2K.
Well, you'll get used to it... Or have a psychotic incident...
Don't these people believe in glodal warming? The more sun they give us the hotter it gets. In that line of thinking if they reversed DST it would reduce global warming.
I guess they can't see that. These people are sooo stupid.
Well, on Novell servers, it's not a big deal at all. First off, the actual clocks run on UTC, and the "local time" is really just a cosmetic thing. Plus, DST is defined as an environment variable, and it's trivial to change.
I don't know about Windows, though...
If Daylight Saving Time lasts for 7 1/2 months, and normal time lasts 4 1/2 months, then shouldn't we change normal time to DST? Then we could have 4 1/2 months of Daylight Wasting Time...
Or, in Arizona, live like the Lord intended year round.
ROFL..only thing that came to my mind was that milking time would be different. But doesn't that change anyway. What would a week or two do different? Are we SURE this isn't from The Onion?
My hubby is using linux, c++, or whatever their latest coding is, and he said it's going to be a huge kernel problem just to fix everything on all their machines. He works with time sensitive, real time data. On all the bulletin boards he frequents, many are expressing headaches.
agree. make it year round.
Dear senator Edward Markey (du-mASS): f_ck you.
Absolutely. Not to mention embedded systems, where the code is in the chip.
I'll repeat my initial comment regarding the Congress on this issue: MORONS!
" the code is in the chip."
He was talking about this the other day, it won't be a case of writing a little macro an attaching it to the programs, manufacturing machines will have to be refitted, servers will have to be reworked, etc. I wonder who in the industry gave to this pac? We're not talking your home pc here, or even a small office or business, this is industrial strength stuff that will be effected.
And we all know how terrible that was.
Some of you might remember that back in the early 70's we went year round daylight savings time.
I loved it! During the January goose season, I didn't have to be on the river hunting until 8:00 a.m. and there was still enough daylight after school to go for an evening hunt. Needless to say, the freezer was full.
I miss those days.
More and more I think that congress exists as an institution so we know where to find all the lunatics in one place.
Sone of us have days that last for months. You'll get used to it.
Funny . . .
yup , here they go "monkeying" with things that are OK!! YIKES, what's next, disabling a cylinder on ALL vehicles?!!??
They have so much specialized stuff, custom programs they've wrote to fit the processors, etc. I don't know the details, I just know he said it's going to be a huge PITA if this is passed. I just skim the edge of this stuff. I'm an engineer, but programming and EE are not my fields.
I thought there was a war on terror going on. Sometimes I wonder how they can think when they are sitting down. Maybe this is the type of drivel that oozes up as they sit.
How could it adversely affect livestock? This city boy doesn't get it.
Like I said earlier though, I'm suprised that any real-time control processes even care about local time, especially since all time on Unix is calculated as offsets from EPOCH (Midnight, Jan 1, 1970). For instance Epoch time at 00:05:53 CDT on 05.22.2005 is 1122008753
Everyone needs to tell Bush to veto this. Computers, VCRs, Wrist Watches And who knows what else will be all but junk.
Livestock can tell time?
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Just get rid of the idiocy!
They can't it's time sensitive work. It's really dependant upon time. The stuff they do has to be done within a specified period.
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