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Lawmakers Remove Roadblock to Energy Bill (but..)
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| 7/24/05
| H. Josef Hebert - AP
Posted on 07/24/2005 4:00:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Good. I had heard about this little break for the energy companies, and I didn't appreciate very much personally. Glad to see it go.
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posted on
07/24/2005 4:06:13 PM PDT
by
Huck
("John Roberts will almost certainly pull the Supreme Court to the right."-Rich Lowry)
To: Huck
Good. I had heard about this little break for the energy companies, and I didn't appreciate very much personally. Glad to see it go. So the government requires environmental additives in gas, like MTBE, but you want oil companies to take the legal hit for it.
Sounds like the greenpeas plan to me. Anti-corporate. Anti-oil. Guaranteed to raise gas prices.
Thanks loads.
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posted on
07/24/2005 4:14:00 PM PDT
by
narby
(There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
To: Huck
sounds very LIBERAL to me...
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posted on
07/24/2005 4:16:57 PM PDT
by
DBeers
(†)
To: Huck
States like Kalifornia required oil companies to add MTBE to gasoline. Now the cost of the clean-up will be entirely borne by the industry. Of course, the other side of the coin is that the oil industry and their downstream retailers should have been more careful in transporting, storing and distributing the chemical.
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posted on
07/24/2005 4:55:53 PM PDT
by
CedarDave
To: narby
You want to take the hit for them? Lunatic! The day the oil companies start covering my liabilties, I'll start covering theirs. What a sucker.
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posted on
07/24/2005 5:16:20 PM PDT
by
Huck
("John Roberts will almost certainly pull the Supreme Court to the right."-Rich Lowry)
To: CedarDave
It's real simple. I don't want to cover ANY of the oil companies' liabilities. The gubmint makes all of us do all kind of things. But it doesn't mean I want to cover every one else's ass. My own ass is enough of a liability, thank you. Or as the Good Book says, "sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."
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posted on
07/24/2005 5:17:48 PM PDT
by
Huck
("John Roberts will almost certainly pull the Supreme Court to the right."-Rich Lowry)
To: DBeers
You're hilarious. I didn't realize using taxes collected by the Federal gubmint to cover the liabilities of private industries was now considered conservative. It's called being a victim of success. Once you have so many accolytes, the low end of the bell curve comes in and wrecks the place.
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posted on
07/24/2005 5:20:02 PM PDT
by
Huck
("John Roberts will almost certainly pull the Supreme Court to the right."-Rich Lowry)
To: Sandy; billbears; jwalsh07
Am I crazy? I don't see why I the taxpayer should be on the hook for anything these companies produced. Would they ever come bail ME out? What the hell is wrong with people? They are haggling over how many billions WE should pay into a fund to clean up their product? And some mouth breather is calling me a liberal because I guess I'm not in synch with the GOP/Hannity talking points.
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posted on
07/24/2005 5:25:52 PM PDT
by
Huck
("John Roberts will almost certainly pull the Supreme Court to the right."-Rich Lowry)
To: NormsRevenge
On Friday, Barton proposed a $11.4 billion cleanup fund for MTBE, a third of which would be paid for by the oil industry, including MTBE manufacturers, refiners and corner gasoline stations owners. Oh, that sounds sooo good... Let's force the evil oil industry to pay for part of this.
Hey Barton, ya think we're stupid or something? 1/3 of $11,400,000,000 is $3,800,000,000. Where do you think the oil industry is gonna get their share? From the same place the rest of the $11,400,000 is gonna come from... my pocket!
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posted on
07/24/2005 5:52:38 PM PDT
by
upchuck
("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
To: narby
The Feds allowed refiners to chose which oxygenate to use. Some picked MTBE. I believe California mandated MTBE.
The refines shouldn't get off scott-free, but they should have to eat the whole enchilada either.
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posted on
07/24/2005 5:55:49 PM PDT
by
stylin19a
(In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
To: upchuck
HMMM---didn't see a mention of ANWR...guess it didn't make it again?
If it didn't make it----I DO NOT want to hear one dem complain of gas prices, and having to do business with the Saudis...
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posted on
07/24/2005 5:58:15 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: Huck
gubmint? You now sound like Janeane Garafalo... I suggest you unplug from Air America for awhile and get some quiet time away from your liberal bretheren...
If you had a posting partner -- I, as in the tradition of President Bush would give you a loving pet name the "ambiguously conservative duo"... ---Ambiguously conservative, contrarian and bashing of the administration and some fine Republicans give you all the markers of a troll in my book...
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posted on
07/24/2005 6:42:48 PM PDT
by
DBeers
(†)
To: Huck
You want to take the hit for them? Lunatic! The day the oil companies start covering my liabilties, I'll start covering theirs. What a sucker. Who pays -the tooth fairy?
Get a clue liberal -money does not come from heaven...
The considerations being extended the corporations involve competetiveness and viability... As it is now our conuntry is losing the capability to refine our own petroleum products and if this continues we will not only have a rust belt we will have a sludge belt...
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posted on
07/24/2005 6:46:43 PM PDT
by
DBeers
(†)
To: NormsRevenge
Micromanaging the fuels of the fleet is paying off for Congress the concessionaires of Congress--the other private sector that sucks at the hind teat of the public sector.
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posted on
07/24/2005 6:53:29 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
To: DBeers
The billions you want to give away come from taxpayers. Looks like you're the lib.
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posted on
07/24/2005 7:00:27 PM PDT
by
Huck
("John Roberts will almost certainly pull the Supreme Court to the right."-Rich Lowry)
To: upchuck
So you're recommendation is to let the gubmit settle up with our money instead of the free market? My, conservatism sure has drifted.
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posted on
07/24/2005 7:01:45 PM PDT
by
Huck
("John Roberts will almost certainly pull the Supreme Court to the right."-Rich Lowry)
To: Huck
Wherever the money comes from, you can bet 2 things: 1) Oil companies will not take the hit... 2) Because whether oil or gubmint writes the check, we all will be footing the bill...
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posted on
07/24/2005 7:05:34 PM PDT
by
dirtbiker
("..fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction" Prov 1:7)
To: dirtbiker
1) Oil companies will not take the hit... 2) Because whether oil or gubmint writes the check, we all will be footing the bill... Maybe so. All the same, I think the conservative thing is to let the legal system work with the fed gubmint butting in. If a water company wants to sue an oil company, I say let the best man win, and leave me the taxpayer out of it.
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posted on
07/24/2005 7:20:38 PM PDT
by
Huck
("John Roberts will almost certainly pull the Supreme Court to the right."-Rich Lowry)
To: Huck
So you're recommendation is to let the gubmit settle up with our money instead of the free market? My, conservatism sure has drifted.Where does the government get its money?
Where does the oil industry get its money?
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posted on
07/24/2005 8:11:23 PM PDT
by
upchuck
("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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