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CAFTA PUTS U.S. SOVEREIGNTY AND CONSTITUTION UNDER ATTACK
House of Representatives ^ | July 19, 2005 | Congressional Testimony

Posted on 07/25/2005 8:58:34 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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1 posted on 07/25/2005 8:58:34 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Happy2BMe; texastoo

Congressional testimony on CAFTA


2 posted on 07/25/2005 8:59:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

If NAFTA didn't put US sovereignty under attack, certainly CAFTA doesn't.


3 posted on 07/25/2005 9:00:16 PM PDT by spyone
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To: spyone

They both do.


4 posted on 07/25/2005 9:00:55 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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www.SecureAmericasBorders.com


5 posted on 07/25/2005 9:01:53 PM PDT by SC33
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Who's testimony was this? It's excellent!


6 posted on 07/25/2005 9:05:22 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: hedgetrimmer
What the article doesn't say is that President Bush, for some unknown reason, is pushing for CAFTA. Consequently he is willing to leave the Mexican border wide open to illegal immigrants, terrorists and refer to the good people of the Minuteman project vigilantes in order to appease his CAFTA cronies.
7 posted on 07/25/2005 9:05:50 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: MACVSOG68

CAFTA ping.


8 posted on 07/25/2005 9:06:19 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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Representative Butch Otter, Idaho


9 posted on 07/25/2005 9:07:08 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: spyone
If NAFTA didn't put US sovereignty under attack, certainly CAFTA doesn't.

Save your breath. The antis here are akin to the Tri-lateral Commission, CFR, and Bilderberg crowd. Logic means nothing.

10 posted on 07/25/2005 9:08:57 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

ping


11 posted on 07/25/2005 9:09:39 PM PDT by planekT (The Supreme Can of Worms.)
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To: upchuck

The other thing I wanted to point out is that it is interesting how we constantly shift the paradigm on why CAFTA is so important. Initially, of course, and when you are talking to an old businessman and an old international grocery salesman like myself, and you tell me that we have some opportunity here to build trade, I am all for it. So I say, well, show me the numbers. Show me the numbers, like McDonald's used to. They would go in and take a look at the net disposable income, and they would say we cannot afford to build a McDonald's down here, in one of these countries, because who could buy our product?

Who can go in there and buy a hamburger, two all-beef patties, special sauce, onions, lettuce, pickles, cheese on a sesame seed bun, plus french fries, and a diet Pepsi or Coke or whatever else they would be selling? Because you see, quite frankly, there is no one in that country at that average wage that would have the net disposable income to do it.

So when the trade agreement did not work, suddenly we shifted the paradigm to political. We have to do this for these five countries down there, because if we do not, they will go down the drain to communism. They will go down the drain to Fidel Castro and to Hugo Chavez from Venezuela, and Ortega is going to take over again, and these other folks are all going to be taking over. So we absolutely have to allow these countries to do this.

Well, now, did we not start this in 1984, and have we not given them every economic benefit? And if this is as far as we have gotten since 1984, in 20, 21 years, I am a little concerned that if this is as far as we have gotten, we are not going anywhere with CAFTA .

So finally, when the political argument did not work, now they have shifted it to immigration. And my good friend, the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Goode), said it very succinctly, and that is that that is the exact same thing they told us with NAFTA.

--Rep Butch Otter


12 posted on 07/25/2005 9:13:23 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Rep. Otter is good!!!


13 posted on 07/25/2005 9:18:45 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: hedgetrimmer

No more expensive trade!


14 posted on 07/25/2005 9:30:52 PM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

the Tri-lateral Commission, CFR, and Bilderberg crowd are PRO CAFTA.


15 posted on 07/25/2005 9:55:11 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Interesting congressional testimony on CAFTA PING


16 posted on 07/25/2005 9:57:26 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Defeat CAFTA, withdraw from NAFTA, and make America a sovereign nation again. Also, get the UN out of the US, and the US out of the UN, and withdraw from all multi-party world bodies like the World Trade Organization, the World Bank, and the International Monetary fund. Then, renegotiate all existing trade agreements in a bilateral fashion with the USA's interests paramount. Anything else is a failure of our elected representatives to uphold their obligations to America's citizens.


17 posted on 07/25/2005 10:20:57 PM PDT by Surtur (Free Trade is NOT Fair Trade unless both economies are equivalent.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

My point was/is that anyone who believes that those folks secretly run things believes in fairy tales.


18 posted on 07/25/2005 10:42:27 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
My point was/is that anyone who believes that those folks secretly run things believes in fairy tales

Its no secret. CFR membership is a who's who of the Republican party and the current administration.
19 posted on 07/25/2005 11:04:02 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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I am not saying they don't exist. It is obvious they do. I am saying they don't have the power and influence attributed to them.


20 posted on 07/25/2005 11:10:03 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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