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America's Hiroshima: America's Date with Disaster - (take this seriously!
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | JULY 26, 2005 | Barbara J. Stock

Posted on 07/25/2005 9:13:25 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Reports are slowly filtering out about a plan by Islamics to detonate several nuclear bombs around the continental United States. Osama bin Laden has lovingly named this attack “America’s Hiroshima.” His logic for giving his plan this name is that the United States is the only world power to use an atomic weapon against an enemy and based on that, it is legal and within Islamic law for him to use such weapons against the American people.

According to reports obtained from captured Al Qaeda agents and documents they were carrying, several nuclear devices may have been brought across the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 gang and are already in position for use. All that is needed is the word from Al Qaeda to detonate them. The plan is to kill at least four million Americans in an instant. Osama has insisted that the bombs be placed in such a manner that at least two million of the dead are children. The “Day of Islam,” bin Laden believes, will be the day America surrenders to Islam.

The number of weapons has been in dispute. The Saudis claim that there may be as many as 70 bombs within the American border and the Russians say 40 bombs is more likely, and still others say there are as few as seven. What does not seem to be in question is that the bombs are here and the clock is ticking.

The smaller number is more feasible for many reasons. Nuclear bombs are not simple grenades, and they need constant and diligent maintenance. Each bomb is carefully cared for much like a mother hen tends to her eggs. It would be difficult for Islamic terrorists to keep 70 nuclear bombs functioning properly.

Then there is the secrecy matter to consider. Seventy bombs would need 70 groups of men to service the bombs and keep them in good repair. That is a lot of people to keep such a secret. Someone would spend an hour too long in a bar and let this secret slip out. In these times, someone bragging that he has a nuclear bomb in his basement would be noticed.

Last but not least is the fact that seven nuclear bombs might not be missed for some time, especially in the former Soviet Union. But 70 nuclear bombs vanishing would most certainly be noticed, even in the chaos of a corrupt Russia. It should also be noted that there are American teams in Russia assisting them to dismantle and maintain the Russian nuclear arsenal. Our men there would be able to report instantly if any were missing. Add to that the shear size of a single, multiple war-head nuclear bomb and it becomes obvious that it is unlikely that bin Laden has been able to obtain one of them. Moving such a thing about without being seen would be nearly impossible.

This leaves the Russian “suitcase nukes” and some of those do seem to be missing. American authorities have known about these small nuclear bombs for some time. Although the Russian government tried to deny them, pictures have surfaced and the Russians could no longer claim that these portable bombs were just a dream that never came to fruition. We now know that several of these small, tactical, nuclear bombs are missing and these handy, easy-to-carry bombs are ideal for bin Laden’s plans. Greedy and suddenly out-of-work Russian nuclear scientists were probably easy prey for the money bin Laden may have waved in front of them.

The possible target cities listed are: New York City, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Chicago, Miami, Washington D.C., and Boston. Surely, more than four million people would die if all seven of these large cities were struck simultaneously. This leads one to wonder if perhaps bin Laden plans on using only four bombs in the first wave.

Would bin Laden then demand that the United States surrender to Islam? Would he use the threat of the three remaining bombs to try and force the American people to accept Islam and abandon the Constitution? That is the ultimate goal of Islam as stated by the Council on American/Islamic Relations. Would bin Laden wait a day or two and detonate the remaining bombs just for the pure joy of killing? Only he knows.

It is said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The last nation that thought it had gained the upper hand against the United States was Japan. After a very successful attack which destroyed much of America’s naval fleet, a sober Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is said to have related to his crew that all Japan had succeeded in doing was awakening a sleeping giant and filling it with a terrible resolve. Yamamoto knew Americans and he understood the American mindset because he had lived and gone to school in the United States. In his heart, he knew that once Americans were angered and determined, Japan would lose the war it had started. Yamamoto was right.

It seems that Islam has not learned from history. Recently, the term “Muslim Nation” has been used on Islamic sites and in Islamic newspapers. Islam has no country. Islamics believe the world is their country and because young Muslims have been taught the entire world is the “Muslim Nation,” many have no loyalty to any true country.

Would a nuclear attack on America cause confusion, panic, and chaos? Of course, it would. But as every television screen played the images of a great city like Chicago lying in ruins and Americans saw the charred bodies of fellow Americans lying in the streets, the rage would be unlike anything the world has ever witnessed. Muslims in America would be overwhelmed in a heartbeat. American rage would reach across the world to the farthest corner and there is no one that would dare to try and stop us. Sane people would be too wise to interfere and truth be known, the world would wish America success because they know they would be next if we fail.

Islamic attacks around the world are on the rise and Islam feels bold and untouchable. Muslims who truly denounce this activity have little time left to stop their warlike fellow-Muslims. Trying to denounce radical Islam after a nuclear attack would be far too late. The time is now. It is Islam’s responsibility to rise up and stop the terrorists in its midst and stop the insanity.

If the killing continues, the civilzed world will rise up with America and that will be the end of the Islamic dream of world domination. It could well be the end of Islam.

I believe that Muslims may curse the name of bin Laden. It may well be the last thing many Muslims ever do. Islamics are constantly issuing warnings and threats to the world. They speak of blood running in the streets. That blood may well be their own. I hope that Islamics will listen to this one warning from an average American: “Muslims must stop radical Islam now because time is short and the nuclear fuse has been lit. Once the bomb goes off it will be too late.”

Comments: dickens502003@yahoo.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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1 posted on 07/25/2005 9:13:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

If a nuke goes off, it will be the absolute end of Islam.


2 posted on 07/25/2005 9:16:19 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CHARLITE

http://www.secureamericasborders.com/


3 posted on 07/25/2005 9:16:25 PM PDT by SC33
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To: CHARLITE

Let them do it, give Israel 72 hours to evacuate, and then, that's it. Game over: the end of the Middle East as habitable land.

Sorry Iraq, et al, we tried.


4 posted on 07/25/2005 9:16:51 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: CHARLITE

Bump for later read


5 posted on 07/25/2005 9:18:41 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: CHARLITE
Have you seen this ? Hiroshima date was incorrect, but, well . . . 'Nuff said.
6 posted on 07/25/2005 9:19:59 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: CHARLITE
This is just a rehash of the story that loony Joseph Farah has been pushing on WorldNutDaily for several weeks now.
7 posted on 07/25/2005 9:20:14 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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To: A CA Guy

Might not be a bad idea to get in first...


8 posted on 07/25/2005 9:20:14 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: CHARLITE
"According to reports obtained from captured Al Qaeda agents and documents they were carrying, several nuclear devices may have been brought across the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 gang and are already in position for use...The number of weapons has been in dispute. The Saudis claim that there may be as many as 70 bombs within the American border and the Russians say 40 bombs is more likely, and still others say there are as few as seven."

Strange that a blog site doesn't sorce this kind of information.

9 posted on 07/25/2005 9:20:41 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: jocon307; backhoe; Stopislamnow; Fred Nerks; canalabamian; neverhome; Critical Bill; Leapfrog; ...
I'm hoping that whoever is calling this "nuclear suitcase" shot isn't an idiot.........and somehow I don't think Bin Laden is an idiot, but I certainly wish that we could find this creep and his Egyptian doctor "travelling companion" and get rid of them, once and for all......not that such a double capture would end global terrorism, but it would be a great psychological hit.

....and it STILL makes me furious, whenever I think about how Clinton could have had Bin Laden, free and clear, when the Sudanese offered him up on a platter. We all know what happened.

Thanks for your reply.

Char

10 posted on 07/25/2005 9:21:23 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE

Let them know that if they do, Mecca is next.

Signed,
Tom Trancredo


11 posted on 07/25/2005 9:22:01 PM PDT by twas
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To: CHARLITE
The plan is to kill at least four million Americans in an instant. Osama has insisted that the bombs be placed in such a manner that at least two million of the dead are children. The “Day of Islam,” bin Laden believes, will be the day America surrenders to Islam.

That'll be the day...

12 posted on 07/25/2005 9:22:15 PM PDT by shezza (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: CHARLITE
I saw this article and ask my mom's old boss what he thought about it and he sent me this email:
Regarding your question about Al-Qaida nukes, I think it is unlikely that they have any at the moment but we know they are trying very hard to get them. If anyone has definite info about the number of nukes Al-Qaida has, they have better info than I have !! A range of 12-70 tells you right away that someone is making a SWAG (Scientific Wild Ass Guess) and I'm not sure about the Scientific part. We do not even know exactly what North Korea has let alone trying to say precisely what Al-Qaida might have. There are often "rumors" about loose nukes in Russia, especially suitcase nukes. While Russia does not have as good of control as we would like for their weapons useable material, they have pretty good control once they make it into a weapon. Our main concern at the moment is an IND -- improvised nuclear device. This is where someone will obtain weapons useable material and fabricate a crude nuclear device -- a nightmare to say the least.

I dont want to say his name but he is a nuclear scientist who is an Assistant to the Secretary of Defense. He has spent many years going to Russia as an inspector under the START-2 Treaty and is very knowledgeable on the subject of nuclear weapons and power.

13 posted on 07/25/2005 9:22:29 PM PDT by Claytay ("We will fight the terrorist till Hell freezes over. Then we'll fight them on ice.")
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To: CHARLITE

We have nukes, too, and we know where Mecca is.


14 posted on 07/25/2005 9:23:34 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Aussie Dasher

We have to have cause for such a grand scale response. We're the civilized ones.


15 posted on 07/25/2005 9:23:47 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SC33

Now ya got it. Congrats!!


16 posted on 07/25/2005 9:23:57 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: upchuck

haha-yes, I took your advice!


17 posted on 07/25/2005 9:25:07 PM PDT by SC33
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To: CHARLITE

The America of Pearl Harbor, and the America of now are so vastly different as to be frightening.

Can something like this happen? Of that I have no doubt.

Would America, to save millions bow? Of this I am very frightened.

Most now believe that living on your knees is better than dying on your feet.

I am not one of those who believe that.

The 'sleeping giant' isn't sleeping anymore, it's been drugged into a stupor by the apologists, by those who protest every military action this country has engaged in since Korea and Vietnam, by those too chicken sh*t to know that freedom isn't free.

I give this Country at most 10 to 20 years before it bends its knee to any little bully.

And *that* makes me weep.


18 posted on 07/25/2005 9:25:40 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: A CA Guy

"If a nuke goes off, it will be the absolute end of Islam."

Only after we clean house of everyone in the government who failed to protect our borders


19 posted on 07/25/2005 9:27:38 PM PDT by Herakles
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To: CHARLITE

If such a thing happened, within 24 hours every Muslim in the USA - and perhaps many other countries as well - would be dead.


20 posted on 07/25/2005 9:28:23 PM PDT by thoughtomator (How many liberties shall we give up to maintain the pretense that we are not at war with Islam?)
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To: CHARLITE

The real WMD proliferation is Muslim immigration. They host the virus when they arrive. Islamic jihad speech arouses it, triggers its manifestation. They then become the weapons themselves. In any case, immigrants and converts will be the ones to ignite the first actual WMD here, because they'll make the onshore arrangements.


21 posted on 07/25/2005 9:30:34 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: A CA Guy

The fate of Carthage..


22 posted on 07/25/2005 9:31:36 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: CHARLITE
Muslims who denounce this are not true Muslims and will not be heard by those who are. READ THEIR BOOK. We have two options kill them or be killed by them. Politicians of every stripe are loath to embrace such drastic action. The history of Genocide against the American Indian and slavery of Africans has left us emotionally handicapped by guilt. We do not have the resolve to fight the war on terror as we must because we have misidentified the enemy. Many more of our own citizens must die before we as a nation are prepared to fight this war.
23 posted on 07/25/2005 9:31:42 PM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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To: COEXERJ145
Yes, it is and this tinfoil has been previously pushed, by others, as well.

The thing is, the Islamonazis can't even keep the regular bombs stable ( apropos of the failed attempt in London last week ), so there is simply NO WAY, that they are capable of doing the required maintenance for nukes.

24 posted on 07/25/2005 9:32:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: A CA Guy

Jihadist imbeciles don't realize that thermonuclear trumps nuclear..


25 posted on 07/25/2005 9:32:57 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: CHARLITE

I think Tancredo (sp?) was instructed to talk of a nuke response on Mecca--or maybe not--but I do believe that every skipper of a Boomer has had such thoughts cross his mind. And it is my wish that should this island of inspiration were incinerated that the Navy would avenge us.


26 posted on 07/25/2005 9:33:16 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: twas
"Mecca is next."

According to their own beliefs, the annihilation of Mecca would be the annihilation of Islam. If the ragheads use the nuclear option, Mecca is ground zero.

27 posted on 07/25/2005 9:33:48 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: CHARLITE

Clinton was offered bin Laden THREE different times and did NOTHING.


28 posted on 07/25/2005 9:34:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Herakles
I hate to burst your bubble, but if we can transport a stolen hotel pillow across state lines, several suitcase nukes would not be defensible unless you post a soldier every 25 feet along all borders and all other ways into the country.

We'd need another million soldiers.

Plus Clinton gave China the technology to nuke us with missiles.

29 posted on 07/25/2005 9:35:03 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CHARLITE
so Trancredo gets hammered for telling the truth...
30 posted on 07/25/2005 9:35:37 PM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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To: CHARLITE
everyone needs to support Congressman Tancredo when he calls publicly for a nuclear counterstrike against all moslem so-called holy sites if they hit us.
President Bush however is the one that should make this statement loud and clear.
31 posted on 07/25/2005 9:36:13 PM PDT by injin
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To: CHARLITE
I'll sick of Bush's "soft stand" against terror.He needs to kill Bin Laden whatever it takes,or else 2008 will have President Hillary and a democratic majority.
32 posted on 07/25/2005 9:36:36 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: kublia khan

Have you ever noticed that many "moderate" Muslims will still fall back on the old Soviet propaganda, accusing the European of being conqueror? They'll abandon talk of jihad, but they still insist that America has no right to have bases all over the world.


33 posted on 07/25/2005 9:36:53 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: twas

Not just Mecca, but Medina, Tehran, Qom, Damascus,
an unnamed city in Egypt, and others in just the
first round of retaliation.

>B-(

The Arab Street will be silent because
everyone on it...will be *DEAD*!!!!


34 posted on 07/25/2005 9:38:05 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: CHARLITE

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/13/171536.shtml
Actually, author and former FBI consultant, Paul L. Williams, says the same.

Interesting article on newsmax.


35 posted on 07/25/2005 9:38:13 PM PDT by milford421
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To: CHARLITE

Good post.

Accurate analysis, in my opine.

One nuclear ignition here, and all will be living in a new world.

All.


36 posted on 07/25/2005 9:38:19 PM PDT by mmercier (the keys of hell and death)
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To: sheik yerbouty

As I recall, Carthage "delenda est."


37 posted on 07/25/2005 9:38:49 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

It would be the end of Islam and all the Mosques that were built on the Holy sites of other religions would be flattened and given back to the Religions they blasphemed.


38 posted on 07/25/2005 9:40:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Claytay; CHARLITE
I think it is unlikely that they have any at the moment but we know they are trying very hard to get them

I'm thinking that if they already had them here, they'd have used them by now. Still, better to err on the side of caution.
39 posted on 07/25/2005 9:41:56 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: concerned about politics

The Islamic leaders do not care if we have nukes. They are ready to offer up their followers without hesitation.


40 posted on 07/25/2005 9:42:06 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: nopardons; COEXERJ145
I think this is a rehash of the "theory" and book being pushed by paul l. williams and joe farah of WND.

BTW, paul l. williams also wrote a book called, "The Vatican Exposed, Money, Murder, and the mafia".

Also isn't Brabara Strock(the writer of this article) one of the fill in hosts of Art Bell's/Georg Noory's, tin foil late night show?

41 posted on 07/25/2005 9:45:10 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Claytay
It is my understanding that in order to set off the nuclear chain reaction of spitting the atom a triggering mechanism which requires Cesium is necessary. Radioactive cesium has a fairly rapid half-life on the order of 7 years. It was expained to me that though they may have the weapons grade plutonium or uranium, without these triggering devises the fission will be unachievable.

Does anyone have any information about this?

42 posted on 07/25/2005 9:46:29 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Judith Anne

Yes, "Cartago delenda est"


43 posted on 07/25/2005 9:47:21 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: NY Attitude

It's gonna be kind of hard for UBL, Zawahiri,
Khamenei, The Muslim Brotherhood, and all their
minions to say they are the blessed of Allah,
and that he is guiding and protecting them, and
increasing the Caliphate, when Mecca, Median and
Tehran the home of the snke shah of the Assassins
are all incinerated. They will no longer be able
to convince even the most gullible fool, that they
can in any way be thought of as 'Mujahideen'...but
that they are in fact the dogs of Shaitan.


44 posted on 07/25/2005 9:48:16 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: CHARLITE
I'm more worried about THIS PLAN!


45 posted on 07/25/2005 9:49:15 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: A CA Guy

American Hiroshima = Islamic Armageddon (none will survive, all will be slaughtered)


46 posted on 07/25/2005 9:49:55 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of the naive, selfish & immature)
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To: NickAtNite
But what is it going to take to do a preemptive strike as you suggest?
47 posted on 07/25/2005 9:52:03 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Claytay

"While Russia does not have as good of control as we would like for their weapons useable material, they have pretty good control once they make it into a weapon."

Thanks for your post. I always suspected these Russian free floating nukes might be an exaggeration.

Cool tagline too, btw!


48 posted on 07/25/2005 9:52:43 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: Cultural Jihad; bayourod; Dane

PING!!

Come on in, the water's fine.....


49 posted on 07/25/2005 9:53:36 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
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If they did indeed have nukes here and have been here for years as many say, why crash planes on 9/11? A buildup to disaster? Doubtful. They'd have hit us every week for a month then detonated the nukes to try and force us to our knees. It's more likely they will smuggle one on a container ship or build it here. One thing is for sure, taking out as many terror camps no matter where they are is a key. I haven't heard zip about anything like that. We need to keep striking from the air and instill as much fear as possible in the ME, and that includes Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, no matter what they say or do, they know we OWN them. We hold the key to their stability within our military forces. Then again just my opinion. Eff em if they cant take a joke.
50 posted on 07/25/2005 9:56:22 PM PDT by Cougar66 (If Sonny had EZ Pass, "The Godfather" would have been a completely different movie)
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