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America's Hiroshima: America's Date with Disaster - (take this seriously!
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | JULY 26, 2005 | Barbara J. Stock

Posted on 07/25/2005 9:13:25 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Reports are slowly filtering out about a plan by Islamics to detonate several nuclear bombs around the continental United States. Osama bin Laden has lovingly named this attack “America’s Hiroshima.” His logic for giving his plan this name is that the United States is the only world power to use an atomic weapon against an enemy and based on that, it is legal and within Islamic law for him to use such weapons against the American people.

According to reports obtained from captured Al Qaeda agents and documents they were carrying, several nuclear devices may have been brought across the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 gang and are already in position for use. All that is needed is the word from Al Qaeda to detonate them. The plan is to kill at least four million Americans in an instant. Osama has insisted that the bombs be placed in such a manner that at least two million of the dead are children. The “Day of Islam,” bin Laden believes, will be the day America surrenders to Islam.

The number of weapons has been in dispute. The Saudis claim that there may be as many as 70 bombs within the American border and the Russians say 40 bombs is more likely, and still others say there are as few as seven. What does not seem to be in question is that the bombs are here and the clock is ticking.

The smaller number is more feasible for many reasons. Nuclear bombs are not simple grenades, and they need constant and diligent maintenance. Each bomb is carefully cared for much like a mother hen tends to her eggs. It would be difficult for Islamic terrorists to keep 70 nuclear bombs functioning properly.

Then there is the secrecy matter to consider. Seventy bombs would need 70 groups of men to service the bombs and keep them in good repair. That is a lot of people to keep such a secret. Someone would spend an hour too long in a bar and let this secret slip out. In these times, someone bragging that he has a nuclear bomb in his basement would be noticed.

Last but not least is the fact that seven nuclear bombs might not be missed for some time, especially in the former Soviet Union. But 70 nuclear bombs vanishing would most certainly be noticed, even in the chaos of a corrupt Russia. It should also be noted that there are American teams in Russia assisting them to dismantle and maintain the Russian nuclear arsenal. Our men there would be able to report instantly if any were missing. Add to that the shear size of a single, multiple war-head nuclear bomb and it becomes obvious that it is unlikely that bin Laden has been able to obtain one of them. Moving such a thing about without being seen would be nearly impossible.

This leaves the Russian “suitcase nukes” and some of those do seem to be missing. American authorities have known about these small nuclear bombs for some time. Although the Russian government tried to deny them, pictures have surfaced and the Russians could no longer claim that these portable bombs were just a dream that never came to fruition. We now know that several of these small, tactical, nuclear bombs are missing and these handy, easy-to-carry bombs are ideal for bin Laden’s plans. Greedy and suddenly out-of-work Russian nuclear scientists were probably easy prey for the money bin Laden may have waved in front of them.

The possible target cities listed are: New York City, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Chicago, Miami, Washington D.C., and Boston. Surely, more than four million people would die if all seven of these large cities were struck simultaneously. This leads one to wonder if perhaps bin Laden plans on using only four bombs in the first wave.

Would bin Laden then demand that the United States surrender to Islam? Would he use the threat of the three remaining bombs to try and force the American people to accept Islam and abandon the Constitution? That is the ultimate goal of Islam as stated by the Council on American/Islamic Relations. Would bin Laden wait a day or two and detonate the remaining bombs just for the pure joy of killing? Only he knows.

It is said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The last nation that thought it had gained the upper hand against the United States was Japan. After a very successful attack which destroyed much of America’s naval fleet, a sober Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is said to have related to his crew that all Japan had succeeded in doing was awakening a sleeping giant and filling it with a terrible resolve. Yamamoto knew Americans and he understood the American mindset because he had lived and gone to school in the United States. In his heart, he knew that once Americans were angered and determined, Japan would lose the war it had started. Yamamoto was right.

It seems that Islam has not learned from history. Recently, the term “Muslim Nation” has been used on Islamic sites and in Islamic newspapers. Islam has no country. Islamics believe the world is their country and because young Muslims have been taught the entire world is the “Muslim Nation,” many have no loyalty to any true country.

Would a nuclear attack on America cause confusion, panic, and chaos? Of course, it would. But as every television screen played the images of a great city like Chicago lying in ruins and Americans saw the charred bodies of fellow Americans lying in the streets, the rage would be unlike anything the world has ever witnessed. Muslims in America would be overwhelmed in a heartbeat. American rage would reach across the world to the farthest corner and there is no one that would dare to try and stop us. Sane people would be too wise to interfere and truth be known, the world would wish America success because they know they would be next if we fail.

Islamic attacks around the world are on the rise and Islam feels bold and untouchable. Muslims who truly denounce this activity have little time left to stop their warlike fellow-Muslims. Trying to denounce radical Islam after a nuclear attack would be far too late. The time is now. It is Islam’s responsibility to rise up and stop the terrorists in its midst and stop the insanity.

If the killing continues, the civilzed world will rise up with America and that will be the end of the Islamic dream of world domination. It could well be the end of Islam.

I believe that Muslims may curse the name of bin Laden. It may well be the last thing many Muslims ever do. Islamics are constantly issuing warnings and threats to the world. They speak of blood running in the streets. That blood may well be their own. I hope that Islamics will listen to this one warning from an average American: “Muslims must stop radical Islam now because time is short and the nuclear fuse has been lit. Once the bomb goes off it will be too late.”

Comments: dickens502003@yahoo.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: Burr5
really fumbled and dodged when confronted with the illogic of his proposition

I'd say it's worth investigating, but I really don't think that they're here. Also, if they're Soviet-era nukes, they've probably degraded to a point as to be unusable by now. Nukes are hi-maintenance toys.

I don't doubt that Osama would love to nuke us, but as you said, why hijack airplanes when he could just blow up 4 cities? I'll admit that it stays on my mind a bit. If they're for real and they go off on Friday it'll probably kill me... I'll be in Chicago all day. :p
221 posted on 07/27/2005 4:27:15 PM PDT by neverhome (If Michael Jackson eats a fruitcake... izzit cannilbalism???)
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To: Strategerist
it's impossible to nuke the world's Moslems without killing tens of millions of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. The world's Islamic population doesn't live completely concentrated in small areas isolated so that fallout doesn't reach anyone else.

You don't seem to know any more about military matters and fallout than you do about muslims.
Hard to find something correct in any of your last few posts.

Specifically how do you suppose we managed to set off hundreds of nukes in Nevada without killing off half of our population?

One of the unexpected benefits of the sand maggots is that they don't tolerate other religions or ethnicities. They simply do not play well with others...
I think the middle east is 99.9% muslims/arabs. THose are the only ones we need to address, and the fallout can be kept to a minimum.

Where muslims have insinuated themselves into a population of non-muslims, the U.S. will not have to even think about dealing with them. They will be dealt with in non-nuclear ways by the locals.

Any other reasons you can think of why it's not possible"?

222 posted on 07/27/2005 4:34:21 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: COEXERJ145

why is the BS constantly being posted here.


223 posted on 07/27/2005 4:35:43 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: shezza

""The plan is to kill at least four million Americans in an instant. Osama has insisted that the bombs be placed in such a manner that at least two million of the dead are children.""


this is such nonesense. No place in Amerca has a population ratio of 50% under age 18


224 posted on 07/27/2005 4:37:08 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: injin

I dont support Tancredo...he is a nut becasue he was responding to this suitcase nuke story and he believes it


225 posted on 07/27/2005 4:38:44 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: A CA Guy

I don't think the "stategerist" [sic] is older than 12, and if he knew what a ring-laser is I would have a heart attack...


226 posted on 07/27/2005 4:43:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I suspect Ted Kennedy would be one of the earliest unfortunate victims of any such sad event.


227 posted on 07/27/2005 4:45:17 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: garjog
I agree that we should retaliate. But, there are one billion Muslims spread all over the place. How could we kill them all?

Is it the juvenile mind that always thinks in terms of all or none?
We just hit the heavy concentrations initially, and mop up the remainder later if necessary.

Since the exact number necessary is entirely up to them, I suspect a LOT less than 100%...

228 posted on 07/27/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: calenel
You didn't prove any of these claims on the other thread which I am cross-linking for the benefit of the people on this thread.

Please give us your qualifications to understand the proof if it were given to you.

Only then can we judge.

Your level of "proof" might be right up there with a failure to grasp the meaning of "is".

229 posted on 07/27/2005 4:53:45 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: slowhandluke
"The point about the bombs in the US won't be to win the war, or even start the war, but to declare the war over, to present us with a severe setback when we are prevented from any response by lack of allies, and pressure from our non-allies to not respond."

Your entire post makes a lot of sense, but it presumes too much. For one thing, it assumes our President and other leaders will be cowards, willing to see their nation going up in smoke without striking back due to foreign 'pressure'. It also presumes that these barbarians are patient to the extreme, and have a long term strategy to conquer the world. While I believe they'd love to conquer the earth, I already see the world fighting back against them; even in Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan, where we see Muslims killing off thousands of their more extreme brethren.

The Philippines are not tolerating their muslim extremists, nor is Thailand or China. They fight back with crushing blows. From all appearances, it even seems the Islamofacists in Iran are beginning to lose power to the people, (who remember better days). Turkey is a secular government that won't tolerate a theocracy and Africa is.... well, as you said, just Africa.

I don't believe for a moment that people like Osama bin Laden and al Zarqawi would 'sit on' nuclear bombs until they felt they had already won the war and then use them as an "announcement" that it was over. These people are cold-blooded killers, and while not stupid they are quite insane, their minds swallowed up by their sick religion and their hearts turned to stone by their hatred. THEY WILL LOSE, and Christ The King will reign.

230 posted on 07/27/2005 4:55:37 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Ubran II, 1097AD)
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To: CHARLITE

If a nuke is set off in this country, islam better bend over and put it's head between it's legs and kiss it's ass goodbye!

Love,
Jarhead


231 posted on 07/27/2005 4:56:28 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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To: boris
You didn't prove any of these claims on the other thread which I am cross-linking for the benefit of the people on this thread.

Things, Boris, they are a-changing.

The face of islam is becoming clearer, and the tolerance of the skeptics falling away...

232 posted on 07/27/2005 5:00:13 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: CHARLITE
We're talking about the Patty Murray-Barbara Boxer-Maxine Watters-Sheila McKinney-Michael Moore-George Soros wing of the liberal Democrat party! Just imagine what would occur, if these people ever got back into power!

I could describe an alternative scenario, but decided I better not.

233 posted on 07/27/2005 5:03:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Hardly anybody can get their minds around an explosion 1,000 X Hiroshima bomb.

But still most of the ignorant tend to overestimate the extent of the damage. By a whole bunch.

234 posted on 07/27/2005 5:05:21 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: xsrdx
Israel would be the first target, in any case.

I doubt it. Israel is small, but not small enough to prevent the Samson Option. And in Israel, the debate is already past.

235 posted on 07/27/2005 5:09:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Valin
Don't you pay attention?

We abandoned that dead horse days ago. Talk to Dane...

236 posted on 07/27/2005 5:14:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: atlanta67
I dont support Tancredo...he is a nut becasue he was responding to this suitcase nuke story and he believes it

Are you aware of what a "hypothetical" is?

No belief is necessary in any manner shape or form.

For instance, if you were Jabba the Hutt, would Babs "rubber check" Boxer date you?

237 posted on 07/27/2005 5:28:13 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Publius6961
It's all in how the damage is intended. It can be pretty bad, if wiping out everything in a city is what you want. However, that's militarily useless, I would think, so the blasts are designed to do closer, more intense damage.

You don't want to be within 30 miles of a "Castle Bravo" 15 megaton firecracker. At optimum blast height, that distance left islands burnt to a crisp before the shock wave blew the burning trees out to sea.

238 posted on 07/27/2005 5:29:55 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Cyber Liberty
You don't want to be within 30 miles of a "Castle Bravo" 15 megaton firecracker. At optimum blast height, that distance left islands burnt to a crisp before the shock wave blew the burning trees out to sea.

I would not want to be within 100 miles. But at that distance it would be a low rumble and little else, either physically or symbolically.

239 posted on 07/27/2005 5:34:57 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: atlanta67
why is the BS constantly being posted here.

Various reasons

Some people think they're "informing" the public of a "threat" (which of course exists mostly in the mind of Farah)

Others enjoy fear mongering (just like Farah)

Still some want it to happen so they can blame it on President Bush (which is IMHO what Farah is really hoping for)

240 posted on 07/27/2005 5:53:22 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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