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America's Hiroshima: America's Date with Disaster - (take this seriously!
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | JULY 26, 2005 | Barbara J. Stock

Posted on 07/25/2005 9:13:25 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Reports are slowly filtering out about a plan by Islamics to detonate several nuclear bombs around the continental United States. Osama bin Laden has lovingly named this attack “America’s Hiroshima.” His logic for giving his plan this name is that the United States is the only world power to use an atomic weapon against an enemy and based on that, it is legal and within Islamic law for him to use such weapons against the American people.

According to reports obtained from captured Al Qaeda agents and documents they were carrying, several nuclear devices may have been brought across the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 gang and are already in position for use. All that is needed is the word from Al Qaeda to detonate them. The plan is to kill at least four million Americans in an instant. Osama has insisted that the bombs be placed in such a manner that at least two million of the dead are children. The “Day of Islam,” bin Laden believes, will be the day America surrenders to Islam.

The number of weapons has been in dispute. The Saudis claim that there may be as many as 70 bombs within the American border and the Russians say 40 bombs is more likely, and still others say there are as few as seven. What does not seem to be in question is that the bombs are here and the clock is ticking.

The smaller number is more feasible for many reasons. Nuclear bombs are not simple grenades, and they need constant and diligent maintenance. Each bomb is carefully cared for much like a mother hen tends to her eggs. It would be difficult for Islamic terrorists to keep 70 nuclear bombs functioning properly.

Then there is the secrecy matter to consider. Seventy bombs would need 70 groups of men to service the bombs and keep them in good repair. That is a lot of people to keep such a secret. Someone would spend an hour too long in a bar and let this secret slip out. In these times, someone bragging that he has a nuclear bomb in his basement would be noticed.

Last but not least is the fact that seven nuclear bombs might not be missed for some time, especially in the former Soviet Union. But 70 nuclear bombs vanishing would most certainly be noticed, even in the chaos of a corrupt Russia. It should also be noted that there are American teams in Russia assisting them to dismantle and maintain the Russian nuclear arsenal. Our men there would be able to report instantly if any were missing. Add to that the shear size of a single, multiple war-head nuclear bomb and it becomes obvious that it is unlikely that bin Laden has been able to obtain one of them. Moving such a thing about without being seen would be nearly impossible.

This leaves the Russian “suitcase nukes” and some of those do seem to be missing. American authorities have known about these small nuclear bombs for some time. Although the Russian government tried to deny them, pictures have surfaced and the Russians could no longer claim that these portable bombs were just a dream that never came to fruition. We now know that several of these small, tactical, nuclear bombs are missing and these handy, easy-to-carry bombs are ideal for bin Laden’s plans. Greedy and suddenly out-of-work Russian nuclear scientists were probably easy prey for the money bin Laden may have waved in front of them.

The possible target cities listed are: New York City, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Chicago, Miami, Washington D.C., and Boston. Surely, more than four million people would die if all seven of these large cities were struck simultaneously. This leads one to wonder if perhaps bin Laden plans on using only four bombs in the first wave.

Would bin Laden then demand that the United States surrender to Islam? Would he use the threat of the three remaining bombs to try and force the American people to accept Islam and abandon the Constitution? That is the ultimate goal of Islam as stated by the Council on American/Islamic Relations. Would bin Laden wait a day or two and detonate the remaining bombs just for the pure joy of killing? Only he knows.

It is said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The last nation that thought it had gained the upper hand against the United States was Japan. After a very successful attack which destroyed much of America’s naval fleet, a sober Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is said to have related to his crew that all Japan had succeeded in doing was awakening a sleeping giant and filling it with a terrible resolve. Yamamoto knew Americans and he understood the American mindset because he had lived and gone to school in the United States. In his heart, he knew that once Americans were angered and determined, Japan would lose the war it had started. Yamamoto was right.

It seems that Islam has not learned from history. Recently, the term “Muslim Nation” has been used on Islamic sites and in Islamic newspapers. Islam has no country. Islamics believe the world is their country and because young Muslims have been taught the entire world is the “Muslim Nation,” many have no loyalty to any true country.

Would a nuclear attack on America cause confusion, panic, and chaos? Of course, it would. But as every television screen played the images of a great city like Chicago lying in ruins and Americans saw the charred bodies of fellow Americans lying in the streets, the rage would be unlike anything the world has ever witnessed. Muslims in America would be overwhelmed in a heartbeat. American rage would reach across the world to the farthest corner and there is no one that would dare to try and stop us. Sane people would be too wise to interfere and truth be known, the world would wish America success because they know they would be next if we fail.

Islamic attacks around the world are on the rise and Islam feels bold and untouchable. Muslims who truly denounce this activity have little time left to stop their warlike fellow-Muslims. Trying to denounce radical Islam after a nuclear attack would be far too late. The time is now. It is Islam’s responsibility to rise up and stop the terrorists in its midst and stop the insanity.

If the killing continues, the civilzed world will rise up with America and that will be the end of the Islamic dream of world domination. It could well be the end of Islam.

I believe that Muslims may curse the name of bin Laden. It may well be the last thing many Muslims ever do. Islamics are constantly issuing warnings and threats to the world. They speak of blood running in the streets. That blood may well be their own. I hope that Islamics will listen to this one warning from an average American: “Muslims must stop radical Islam now because time is short and the nuclear fuse has been lit. Once the bomb goes off it will be too late.”

Comments: dickens502003@yahoo.com


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To: garjog

I really think he meant something more like a really crude dirty bomb. But that is just as scary in my opinion.


81 posted on 07/25/2005 10:29:43 PM PDT by Claytay ("We will fight the terrorist till Hell freezes over. Then we'll fight them on ice.")
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To: NY Attitude

"Iran just executed 2 teenagers (16 and 18 yo)for homosexual practices"

Yeah, they are real tough guys aren't they? There is another country desperately in need of regime change. The Iranians may very well rise up against these fascists and slaughter them like the vermin that they are.


82 posted on 07/25/2005 10:29:53 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of the naive, selfish & immature)
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To: SALChamps03

The Chinese could not get their satelites into orbit, until they were supplied the answers by us.


83 posted on 07/25/2005 10:31:29 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: DarthVader

One could only hope.


84 posted on 07/25/2005 10:32:42 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: Claytay; garjog
"Our main concern at the moment is an IND -- improvised nuclear device. This is where someone will obtain weapons useable material and fabricate a crude nuclear device -- a nightmare to say the least."

Fabricating the nuclear trigger, typically Po-210 and Berrylium, requires near constant, unlimited access to a working nuclear reactor. Po-210 has a half-life of a mere 140 days.

Plutonium is pyrophoric. Go look it up (if you're going to be posting about atomic bombs, then you need to know that word). You only work with Plutonium in very advanced clean room labs.

85 posted on 07/25/2005 10:33:06 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: NY Attitude

I wouldn't be suprised if the company already has a plan in the works. Terrorism and insurgentism is a two way street you know.


86 posted on 07/25/2005 10:34:48 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of the naive, selfish & immature)
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To: TheCrusader
You are right, their missiles were blowing up on the pad as recently as the 90s.
They had older missiles that could on a good day get lucky to hit Alaska.

Clinton did repair that by giving China the technology to guide and send missiles anywhere in the USA. That is the reason why for me he is the worst President of all time by far.
87 posted on 07/25/2005 10:34:51 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: DarthVader

Yep.


88 posted on 07/25/2005 10:36:52 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: COEXERJ145
This is just a rehash of the story that loony Joseph Farah has been pushing on WorldNutDaily for several weeks now.

It is not nearly as loony as an administration that continues to let 2 million people cross illegally into the U.S. from Mexico every year.

And in case you have your doubts on the lunacy, how about this? The desired tactic of the human smugglers is to instruct people to seek out the border patrol and especially the camps. Knowing the camps are full, they know the people they send there will be released in 24 to 72 hours. Those people are then told where to go once they are released, a point where the smugglers will pick them up and take them on the rest of the journey.

How loony is that? We not only let them in. We help them across the border. I was floored when I saw this described in a Senate hearing I was watching on CSPAN one night. Shocking the stupidity of those that don't think 7 suitcases could not slip in among 2 million people, along with people trained to maintain and use them.

Nothing loony here. Move on. Be happy. Don't worry. It is just some nut pointing out we are are vulnerable, very vulnerable.

89 posted on 07/25/2005 10:38:36 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Strategerist
"Nope, they had ICBMs with thermonuclear weapons in the early 80s with the range to reach the Continental US"

As another poster has stated, their missles were constantly blowing up on the launch pads back then, and they'd have been lucky to hit even Alaska with one of them. With Bubba Clinton's help, they can now reach just about anywhere in the U.S.

90 posted on 07/25/2005 10:41:23 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Ubran II, 1097AD)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Does anyone have any information about this?

If they do, don't post it here. Loose lips sink ships.

91 posted on 07/25/2005 10:42:26 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: garjog

Paul Williams, isn't the only one saying it:

http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/020923.htm,
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050113-114518-9423r.htm,

And this from January, 2000

Former Soviet spy: Small nuclear devices planted in U.S.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/01/28/spy.hearing/index.html

Colonel Hackworth, Congressman Weldon...
http://www.hackworth.com/article03042002b.html

George Will
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/georgewill/gw20040829.shtml


92 posted on 07/25/2005 10:45:12 PM PDT by milford421
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To: DarthVader

Believe me..or not...

Co-ordinates and flight plans have allready
been plotted, and need only to uploaded into
the guidance packages of any number of different
types of delivery systems.


93 posted on 07/25/2005 10:48:48 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: Blurblogger; neverdem; nopardons; Smartass; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ken5050; Enterprise; Coop; Dog; ...

now I can't sleep.


94 posted on 07/25/2005 10:51:30 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: A CA Guy
You guys think that terrorists nukes is a nutty idea?

What about these:
Terrorists aim to end western civilization, says ex-Mossad head
RUPERT STEINER/ Scotsman/ July 16, 2005

"We are in the throes of a world war, raging over the entire globe, and characterized by the absence of lines of conflict and an easily identifiable enemy. There are sometimes long pauses between one attack and the next, consequently creating the wrong impression that the battle is all over."

He said the 'great wars' of the 20th century lasted less than this war, and the end was nowhere in sight. "The aim of the enemy is not to defeat western civilization but to destroy its sources of power and existence, and to render it a relic of the past.

"It does not seek a territorial victory or a regime change; it wants to turn western civilization into history and will stop at nothing less than that. http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=765352005
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The threat we won't discuss
Graham Allison, / The Australian/ June 15, 2005

"In the end, US intelligence agencies concluded that Mahmood and Majeed had provided bin Laden with a blueprint for constructing nuclear weapons,"

Allison (founding dean of the Kennedy School of Government). This was the advice the CIA gave President George W. Bush.

When bin Laden discussed the September 11 attack with its chief planner, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, they thought of hitting nuclear facilities but decided to leave the nuclear targets "for now". After the attack, al-Qa'ida's then spokesman, Suleiman Abu Gheith, asserted its right to "kill four million Americans, two million of them children, and to exile twice as many and wound and cripple hundreds of thousands". No prizes for guessing how they intended to kill so many.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,15614591,00.html
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Nuclear Terrorism Inevitable
Graham Allison/ July 16, 2005

In NUCLEAR TERRORISM: The Ultimate Preventable Catastrophe, Graham Allison, founding dean of Harvard’s modern John F. Kennedy School of Government, a former top Pentagon official, and one of America’s leading scholars of nuclear strategy and national security, gives us an urgent call to action.

Given the number of capable groups with serious intent, the increasing accessibility of weapons or nuclear materials from which elementary weapons could be constructed, and the countless ways by which terrorists could smuggle a weapon across America’s borders, Allison argues that if the U.S.

and other governments keep doing what we are doing now, a nuclear terrorist attack is inevitable. http://www.nuclearterror.org/about.html
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"12th imam Operation" a Multiple Nuclear Attack
by Curt Weldon/ July 16, 2005

Not long after 9/11, Congressman Weldon found himself on the front lines of the War on Terror, enmeshed in international intrigues with spies and killers. He learned about plots to assassinate world figures (including a former U.S. President) and of a plot to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans by radiation poisoning. Ultimately, he would discover a still more audacious plot -- one that is still unfolding.

It's a plan to inflict a terrorist attack on the United States -- an attack of such catastrophic dimensions that it is code-named after Shi'ite Islam's 12th imam: the prophet of doom who ushers in the Islamic apocalypse, rewarding the faithful and, with appalling violence, purging all infidels from the face of the Earth. http://www.falange.us/countdown.htm
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An American Hiroshima
By Nicholas D. Kristof/ August 11, 2004

If a 10-kiloton nuclear weapon, a midget even smaller than the one that destroyed Hiroshima, exploded in Times Square, the fireball would reach tens of millions of degrees Fahrenheit.

It would vaporize or destroy the theater district, Madison Square Garden, the Empire State Building, Grand Central Terminal and Carnegie Hall (along with me and my building). The blast would partly destroy a much larger area, including the United Nations. On a weekday some 500,000 people would be killed. http://healthandenergy.com/an_american_hiroshima.htm
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The Nuclear Fatwa
Author: Abu Shihab El-Kandahari/ 26 December 2002

The coming days will prove that Kaedat el-Jihad [the Al-Qaeda organization] is capable of turning America into a sea of deadly radiation, and this will prove to the world that the end is at hand.... Yes, we will destroy America and its allies, because they have used their power for evil against the weak. http://bobparks.mensnewsdaily.com/blog/parks/
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US Vulnerable to Catastrophic Attack
NewsMax/ Thursday, June 23, 2005

Despite the federal government's expensive efforts to prevent terrorists from smuggling a nuclear weapon into the U.S., the nation remains extremely vulnerable to a catastrophic attack, experts have warned a House committee.

The radiation detection systems installed across the U.S. are "quite limited in their capabilities and, in general, are insufficient to the task," said physicist Richard L. Wagner Jr., chairman of the Defense Department task force on preventing a clandestine nuclear attack.

Said Rep. Pascrell: "I am not too hopeful about this situation." http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/6/22/153944.shtml
95 posted on 07/25/2005 10:52:55 PM PDT by garjog
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To: BJungNan; CHARLITE

96 posted on 07/25/2005 10:56:13 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: bitt
Go to sleep...we've debunked this story over and over and OVER again, for YEARS and it just keeps right on being dragged out again and again.

Read Southack's post.

97 posted on 07/25/2005 11:06:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: BJungNan
The "SHOCKING STUPINITY" lies with this FREEPERS who are so obsessed with the Southern border, when Islamonazis have long ago come in from Canada and that the Canadian government not only takes in, with open arms, radical Imams, kowtows to them, and now there is a HUGE, thriving group of Islamonazis on our Northern border, which is even ORE wide open than the one we share with Mexico!

But everyone and anyone, with even the most basic knowledge about nukes, knows, YWES KNOWS, that these stories are false. They're nothing but URBAN LEGENDS and Islamonazi pipe dreams.

98 posted on 07/25/2005 11:12:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: garjog
If they had the nukes, they would have used them!

Nukes have a self life and when not taken care of/maintained, they go PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT; not BOOM.

99 posted on 07/25/2005 11:15:29 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Southack
You didn't prove any of these claims on the other thread which I am cross-linking for the benefit of the people on this thread.
100 posted on 07/25/2005 11:31:29 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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