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Pr. George's Proposes Smoking Ban (FReep Alert -- Smoking Nazis threaten PG County MD)
The Washington Post ^ | 7/27/2005

Posted on 07/27/2005 4:51:56 AM PDT by markomalley

Edited on 07/27/2005 5:08:11 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Smoking in restaurants in Prince George's County would be prohibited under legislation proposed yesterday by eight members of the County Council.

The legislation would impose a fine of as much as $200 for violations.

Council member Thomas R. Hendershot (D-New Carrollton), a former smoker, is the only member of the council who did not sign on as a sponsor.

Excerpt. Story follows: Washington Post


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: ban; fascism; nazi; restriction; smoking
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Folks, I need some help in FReeping the county council on this. Regardless of your attitude toward smoking, you should recognize that this is a clear overstepping of the government into the private property rights and individual liberty.

Members of the County Council can be located here. Please call, e-mail, write, etc. Let them know your opposition to this measure!

Believe it or not, there are FReepers living in PG County! They need your assistance!

1 posted on 07/27/2005 4:51:58 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Smoking in restaurants in Prince George's County would be prohibited under legislation proposed yesterday by eight members of the County Council.

Dude, do what I did about 7 years ago - Get the hell out of there!!!

2 posted on 07/27/2005 5:07:49 AM PDT by Living Free in NH
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To: Living Free in NH
You can only run so far and so long. Somebody needs to take a stand in these blue states. I'm not runnning anywhere.
3 posted on 07/27/2005 5:35:33 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: markomalley

In a related matter, didn't I see something on Fox News yesterday about New Jersey lawmakers looking to ban people smoking in their cars?


4 posted on 07/27/2005 5:51:20 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: markomalley

You can always move. Just don't come to Florida. We voted to remove that disgusting habit from restaurants statewide.


5 posted on 07/27/2005 6:31:11 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Triggerhippie
Just don't come to Florida.

Hurricanes and queer days at Disney pretty much convinces me I didn't miss a thing in Florida.

6 posted on 07/27/2005 6:34:53 AM PDT by Glenn (1: Write down the problem. 2: Think really hard. 3: Write down the answer. -- MG-M about RPF.)
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To: markomalley

Earlier this month I attended a wedding reception in Montgomery Co, Md. which is the next county to Prince George's Co. You couldn't smoke inside and weren't allowed to drink outside. It made me wonder why their County Council members weren't hanging from trees. I think that Maryland just has too high a concentration of federal government employees to ever break loose of this kind of nonsense.


7 posted on 07/27/2005 6:37:34 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: SheLion

PINGAROONIE!!


8 posted on 07/27/2005 6:38:44 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: markomalley

SheLion's got TONS of information on these things.


9 posted on 07/27/2005 6:40:27 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: markomalley

You are lucky as you still have a city council to influence. The tobacco Nazis put it on the ballot here in Florida and with 75% of non smokers voting (True Democracy at Work) smoking has been banned in all Florida restaurants and bars. Good luck my friend.


10 posted on 07/27/2005 6:48:07 AM PDT by moasicwolf
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To: moasicwolf

At least in Florida it was put up to a vote by the people instead of a small group of elected officials deciding what is best for the rest of us.


11 posted on 07/27/2005 6:56:44 AM PDT by Brytani ("Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work - Edison)
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To: markomalley

With all the crime in PGC one would think they should work on that first.


12 posted on 07/27/2005 7:07:42 AM PDT by since1868
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To: Triggerhippie
You can always move. Just don't come to Florida. We voted to remove that disgusting habit from restaurants statewide.

Disgusting habit? How about the spewing carcinogens coming from your car? By the way, stand alone bars aren't effected by that law. The only thing effected were people's rights! Yes rights! The right of the property owner to use his establishment as he or she sees fit! The non-smoking Nazi's don't have to go into an establishemnt that allows smoking if they don't wish! But, don't push your sanctimonious wishes and wants onto others! I love Florida...and still smoking in bars! Some lawsuits happening right now may change the non-smoking law. So, stand by and let's see what happens!

13 posted on 07/27/2005 10:51:09 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: markomalley

For some reason, I thought PG county was the most anti-smoking of them all, in the entire US! I thought you couldn't even smoke outside in Prince Georges.

At any rate, I'll send off something. Thanks!


14 posted on 07/27/2005 10:54:52 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Bushbacker1

As I recall the vote wasn't even close.

Poison yourself all you want. Leave those of us who don't want to breathe your smoke (and DAMN sure don't want our kids breathing it) in peace.

BTW, You'll never convince me. I'm an ex-smoker.


15 posted on 07/27/2005 11:13:27 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Bushbacker1
Disgusting habit? How about the spewing carcinogens coming from your car?

Different topic. Unless, of course, you leave your car running inside the restaurant.

16 posted on 07/27/2005 11:17:14 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: markomalley

For FReeping convenience, the e-mails of the 9 council members:

District 1
Thomas E. Dernoga
TEDernoga@co.pg.md.us

District 2
Will Campos
WACampos@co.pg.md.us

District 3
Thomas R. Hendershot
THendershot@co.pg.md.us

District 4
Douglas J.J. Peters
DJPeters@co.pg.md.us

District 5
David Harrington
DCHarrington@co.pg.md.us

District 6
Samuel H. Dean
SHDean@co.pg.md.us

District 7
Camille Exum
CAExum@co.pg.md.us

District 8
Tony Knotts
TKnotts@co.pg.md.us

District 9
Marilynn M. Bland
MBland@co.pg.md.us (note this e-mail isn't on the website, but it's probably that, or maybe MMBland@co.pg.md.us )



17 posted on 07/27/2005 11:17:30 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Triggerhippie

http://www.ornl.gov/info/press_releases/archive/mr20000203-00.html

Different topic. Unless, of course, you leave your car running inside the restaurant.

As soon as you start your car, you are polluting my air outside. Walk to where you're going and I'll have no problem. As far as the vote to stop smoking in Florida restaurants, it was 65-35 for banning smoking. My guess is that 65% of the voters didn't realize that they were taking rights away from property owners. Again, if you don't like being around smoke, then don't frequent places where smoking is allowed.


18 posted on 07/27/2005 3:10:05 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: Bushbacker1
As soon as you start your car, you are polluting my air outside. Walk to where you're going and I'll have no problem.

Nah, I'll do my polluting via my car. You keep on smoking...and start walking.

My guess is that 65% of the voters didn't realize that they were taking rights away from property owners.

There are those of us who figured OUR health is more important than the rights of others to harm themselves, us, and our kids. Second-hand smoke is an ADDED pollutant. (X=ambient pollution, SS=Second hand smoke. X < X+SS. Very simple.)

Again, if you don't like being around smoke, then don't frequent places where smoking is allowed.

Better still, collect enough signatures to keep people from making every restaurant smell "Bar-room Fresh."

Smoking in public is, IMO, slightly less disgusting than crapping in the street. If it ever becomes an issue, I'll vote against people doing that too!

19 posted on 07/27/2005 10:46:34 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: markomalley

I've lived in PG County all my life. I've rarely dined in restaurants within the county. And I can wait until after I've dined, had dessert and coffee before lighting up.

This idea, like taxing cigarettes to the nth degree will fail over time. Due to the Dems using data from all "restaurants" (Even those whose stock-in-trade is "Call-In" and Carry Out") within the county to back a smoking ban. When none of their customers would smoke in their business anyway.

Perhaps, this idea of a $200.00 fine was actually cooked up to augment the annual loss of tax revenues from cigarette sales within the county and state. Since more and more are using the Net to buy their smokes.

Jack.


20 posted on 07/27/2005 11:04:28 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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