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(Miami) Herald columnist Jim DeFede fired over taped phone call
Miami Herald ^ | Thu, Jul. 28, 2005 | JAY WEAVER

Posted on 07/28/2005 6:44:27 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude

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I am not sad to see one of the biggest (both figeratively and literally) liberals in South Florida journalism go.
1 posted on 07/28/2005 6:44:29 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude

It's not illegal in Oklahoma.


2 posted on 07/28/2005 6:46:30 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Newbie!


3 posted on 07/28/2005 6:47:08 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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Is it also illegal to tape obsecene phone calls or threats to ones life?


4 posted on 07/28/2005 6:48:38 AM PDT by Dante3
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Welcome to Free Republic and thanks for the article ...interesting...


5 posted on 07/28/2005 6:49:54 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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''Jim has been a strong and valued voice at The Miami Herald and his departure will leave a significant void,'' Fiedler said in a statement. ``I am personally heartsick about this. But we must hold ourselves to the highest standard of integrity if we are to maintain the trust of our readers and those with whom we deal.''

Excuse me for a few hours while I regain my composure here - I'm laughing so hard it just can't be healthy.

6 posted on 07/28/2005 6:50:19 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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It's a federal violation - so it's illegal in OK. also.


7 posted on 07/28/2005 6:51:27 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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The Miami Herald is a great paper...
...to wrap fish with.


8 posted on 07/28/2005 6:53:57 AM PDT by Riptides
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Their nuts if they think I'll trust them.


9 posted on 07/28/2005 6:55:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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Er ah, the public has NO trust in the media.

We expect the worst from them and they usually manage to fulfill that expectation.

10 posted on 07/28/2005 6:56:06 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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It's a federal violation - so it's illegal in OK. also.

Incorrect. It's perfectly legal in single party consent states. Federal law doesn't come into consideration until the call crosses state lines. If both states are single party consent there's no violation.

http://www.pimall.com/nais/n.tel.tape.law.html

11 posted on 07/28/2005 6:59:01 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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It's a federal violation - so it's illegal in OK. also.

The laws on taping phone cnversations vary on a state by state basis. It's not a federal issue.

12 posted on 07/28/2005 6:59:41 AM PDT by Bob
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To: battlegearboat
Newbie?

Happy Valley Dude
Since Aug 30, 2000

13 posted on 07/28/2005 7:03:14 AM PDT by b4its2late (Suicidal Blond Twin Kills Sister By Mistake!)
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To: sandydipper
It's a federal violation -

Don't think so. Here it's perfectly legal as long a one of the parties is aware of the recording.

14 posted on 07/28/2005 7:03:15 AM PDT by FreePaul
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DeFede, a Herald columnist since June 2002 who had previously worked at the Miami New Times,

This tells you all you need to know about DeFeded. The MNT is one of those ultra-liberal Rags, which doesn't do much more than bash conservatives on every other page. Although I do enjoy reading the "Savage Love" column, but thats the libertarian in me...

15 posted on 07/28/2005 7:03:38 AM PDT by Paradox (I just neutered my cat, now he's a Liberal.)
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The federal law makes it unlawful to record telephone conversations except in one party consent cases which permit one party consent recording by state law. What that means is a person can record their own telephone conversations without the knowledge or consent of the other party in those states that allow one party consent.


16 posted on 07/28/2005 7:04:54 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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It's a federal violation - so it's illegal in OK. also.

Not true. Federal law permits one-party consent, meaning you can record your own conversations, or someone else's conversations, so long as at least one party consents to the recording. Florida is a two-party consent state, though, meaning both parties must consent to the recording for it to be legal under state law. Oklahoma is a one-party consent state, FWIW - read more here.

Where it gets complicated is if the phone call crosses state lines from a one-party consent state to a two-party consent state, but it doesn't sound like that happened here.

17 posted on 07/28/2005 7:04:59 AM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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It is legal in Texas to record your telephone conversations. But I don't know about calls which cross the State line.


18 posted on 07/28/2005 7:05:49 AM PDT by i_dont_chat
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I know, I was just smartin' off because I joined a week before you did.

Ease up, Dude:)

19 posted on 07/28/2005 7:06:02 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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It's a federal violation - so it's illegal in OK. also.

No it is not illegal in Oklahoma. Federal law forbids telephone recordings by a third party when neither of the two principal parties on the conversation have consented.

Oklahoma, along with 37 other states, is a "one party consent" state, which means that if one party agrees to the recording (in this case the reporter) it is legal under federal law. Florida, along with 11 other states, is a "two party consent" state.

20 posted on 07/28/2005 7:06:40 AM PDT by dpwiener
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