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Shot Brazilian Had Phoney Visa, Says Home Office (UK)
The Times ^
| 7/28/2005
| Jenny Booth
Posted on 07/28/2005 11:52:49 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480
He very well may have been a terrorist, just not part of the most recently active cell.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:15:21 PM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
To: Pyro7480
The moral of the story: When a policeman yells "stop", one better stop.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:16:46 PM PDT
by
fish hawk
(hollow points were made to hold pig lard)
To: Pyro7480
""Mr de Menzes ... applied for leave to remain as a student. This was approved on October 31, 2002, and he was granted leave to remain until June 30, 2003. Mr de Menezes, 27, a Brazilian national who was working in London as an electrician... who was installing SECURITY alarms in London.... And the same address as the terrorists.
Doesn't pass the small test.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:32:32 PM PDT
by
spokeshave
(Strategery + Shardenfreuden = Stratenshardenfreudenery)
To: wayoverontheright
Probably the "counterfeit visa community."
By a strange coincidence, a couple of days after this guy's death, the police raided a place in Britain that was busy cranking out phony "student" and other visas.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:38:12 PM PDT
by
livius
To: Pyro7480
O.K. Let's review some of the information on this Brazilian so far:
1. Illegal documents/visa.
2. Sends large sums of money home to his family (larger than known income)
3. An electrician by trade.
4. Seen either coming from the bombers house or lived there.
5. Running like hell from police.
Could it be he was working for the terrorist helping rig the bombs?
Hmmm.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:40:25 PM PDT
by
poobear
(Imagine a world of liberal silence.)
To: wideawake
Exactly so. My guess is that the family is doing their best to increase their cash award.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:42:20 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
To: Pyro7480; All
The day after this shooting happened everyone was saying the poor guy didn't speak English, so he was running from the police because he thought he was going to be mugged again. One question, how can a person live in another country for several years and not learn what, "Stop, Police" means? My daughter is a language instructor and she tells me the best way to learn a language is immersion in the country/culture. This thing smells and I bet by the time it is sorted out, the police will be the ones smelling good.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:48:17 PM PDT
by
Vor Lady
(O, ace, a, omen, eta, usi...)
To: poobear
Looks like you're thinking the same thing I've been thinking. Wanna bet that as more comes out about this guy, he'll look less and less "innocent"?
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:49:39 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
To: MizSterious
Love your tagline! Sounds like a great idea to me!
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:50:57 PM PDT
by
Vor Lady
(O, ace, a, omen, eta, usi...)
To: Grannyx4
Even his family admits he spoke good English. When my husband went to Brazil a few years ago, he was surprised at how many people spoke (very) good English.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:51:15 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
To: Pyro7480
He was just doing the work that the Brits were too lazy to do...
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:52:02 PM PDT
by
Cowboy Bob
(Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
To: Pyro7480
I don't suppose we could hire those U.K. cops to help out with our (ahem) "problems" on our southern border with illegals, now could we?
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:52:05 PM PDT
by
Mad Mammoth
(Some folks just need killin' = Clint Eastwood as 'The Outlaw Josey Wales'...)
To: Grannyx4
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:52:47 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
To: Paradox
No matter how you justify it, this sux, and it sucks badly. However, under the circumstances, the Police actions were understandable. It doesn't take much of any jacket to cover a bomb belt or bomb vest. This is just a sad, sad tragedy, and he is a victim of the terrorists more than a victim of the police. Once it got to the point of Menezes running in the train station, they really didn't have much choice.
The police screwed up pretty badly, though. Menezes lived in a small building (8 flats), and the cops could have, and should have, made sure they knew everybody who lived there. The start of this mess was when they started tailing a guy who came out of the building, who they didn't know. But Menezes had lived there for a long time, and they should have known who he was.
Bad legwork up front led to bad results downstream.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:54:23 PM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Pyro7480
Ms Figueiredo said: "They are saying he did absolutely nothing wrong when he was killed, so why dont they say all this publicly?"He jumped a ****in' turnstile ****in' running from the ****in' police, you dumb ****!
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:55:14 PM PDT
by
AmishDude
(Join the Amishdude fan club: "LOL, you have a great sense of humor." -- msmagoo54)
To: DCPatriot
One question.
Was he a practicing Muslim?
Good question!
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:56:03 PM PDT
by
airborne
To: Pyro7480
The plot thickens.
There is more to this...
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:56:15 PM PDT
by
Cincinna
(BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
To: MizSterious
Amazing how the cops are so stupid, isn't it? Sarcasm off.
Bill Cosby used to say, "Spank your kids once a day, if you don't know what for, they will." This guy sounds like he might have been having the guilts; the cops may never know why he ran, but maybe it won't matter.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:58:19 PM PDT
by
Vor Lady
(O, ace, a, omen, eta, usi...)
To: Pyro7480
How do they know he wasn't a suicide bomber? Is John Edwards channeling him?
To: DCPatriot
"Was he a practicing Muslim?"
No, Catholic.
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posted on
07/28/2005 12:59:31 PM PDT
by
Canard
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