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Ratzinger - "Very Soon It Will Not Be Possible to State That Homosexuality is an Objective Disorder"
LifeSite ^ | July 28, 2005

Posted on 07/29/2005 9:54:14 AM PDT by NYer

ROME, Italy, July 28, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In the conclusion of Cardinal Ratzinger’s lecture, now Pope Benedict XVI, delivered on April 1st, the eve of John Paul II’s death, the then Cardinal strongly denounced the European Enlightenment culture and its increasing dogmatism against religion, Christianity and freedom. 

The Cardinal expressed his belief that the reasons given by the architects of the EU Constitution for excluding God from the document—that the mention of God or recognition of the Christian roots of the continent might offend those of other religions—doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

“The affirmation that the mention of the Christian roots of Europe injures the sentiments of many non-Christians who are in Europe, is not very convincing, given that it relates, first of all, to an historical fact that no one can seriously deny…It is not the mention of God that offends those who belong to other religions, but rather the attempt to build the human community absolutely without God,” said the Cardinal.

Instead, Ratzinger continued, it is obvious that the exclusion of religion from the public sphere is rather the result of the imposition of Enlightenment dogma, which dogma falsely professes the ideals of freedom and tolerance. Indeed, one of the inevitable consequences of what Ratzinger called the ‘Culture of Rights’, as divorced from its Judeo-Christian roots, is that “the concept of discrimination is ever more extended, and so the prohibition of discrimination can be increasingly transformed into a limitation of the freedom of opinion.”

“Very soon,” said the Cardinal in a chilling prophesy that is already coming to fulfillment in many Western nations, including Canada, “it will not be possible to state that homosexuality, as the Catholic Church teaches, is an objective disorder in the structuring of human existence.”

According to Ratzinger it is “obvious that the ill-defined or undefined concept of freedom, which is at the base of this culture, inevitably entails contradictions…A confused ideology of freedom leads to dogmatism, which is showing itself increasingly hostile to freedom.”

Ratzinger concluded by expressing his strong doubt that the Enlightenment culture will ever provide a common cause for men. “We have to ask ourselves,” says the Cardinal, “if it is really complete in itself, to the degree that it has no need of a root outside itself.” The implied answer, of course, is no, the Enlightenment culture without the firm foundation of Europe’s roots in Christianity can only devolve into a pseudo and dogmatic religion, ultimately restrictive of freedom.


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Cardinal Ratzinger On Europe's Crisis of Culture (Part 1) The "God"less Society

Cardinal Ratzinger On Europe's Crisis of Culture (Part 2) - "Dogmatism"

1 posted on 07/29/2005 9:54:14 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 07/29/2005 9:54:50 AM PDT by NYer ("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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It is not, it is a disgusting blight on mankind, a sin, and an afront to God.


3 posted on 07/29/2005 9:56:16 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: NYer

thank you"NYer"


4 posted on 07/29/2005 9:57:54 AM PDT by anonymoussierra (Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
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To: NYer

No longer practicing....But I have to admire how this man is steering the boat.


5 posted on 07/29/2005 9:59:31 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: NYer

he doesn't quite connect with the everyday joe like JPii, but I do agree with him. i think.


6 posted on 07/29/2005 10:00:19 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: NYer
The Cardinal expressed his belief that the reasons given by the architects of the EU Constitution for excluding God from the document—that the mention of God or recognition of the Christian roots of the continent might offend those of other religions—doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

"There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions." GK Chesterton

7 posted on 07/29/2005 10:01:06 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: NYer
Good post.

BTW, I sure hope that Fr Frank has a talk with Senator Frist. He not only turned his head against the president but more importantly, turned it on the culture of life as well.

I'm very disappointed in his new stand on stem cell research.

8 posted on 07/29/2005 10:01:28 AM PDT by mware
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To: murphE

"There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions." GK Chesterton


Gotta love ole Chesterton!


9 posted on 07/29/2005 10:02:08 AM PDT by Okies love Dubya 2 (SAHM of three future FReepers--ages 7, 2 (almost 3), and 1)
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To: One Proud Dad
In saying "objective disorder" he is using technical language. What he means is that objectively (i.e., not subjectively, in relative terms, or as a matter of personal opinion) homosexual activity is disordered (contrary to the natural and moral order).

He is complaining that Europeans are no longer free to accurately describe homosexual activity as objectively disordered, but are being forced to accept it as "normal."

10 posted on 07/29/2005 10:02:29 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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A confused ideology of freedom leads to dogmatism, which is showing itself increasingly hostile to freedom

Succinctly and powerfully stated. Thank you Pope Benedict.

11 posted on 07/29/2005 10:03:50 AM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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Ratzinger concluded by expressing his strong doubt that the Enlightenment culture will ever provide a common cause for men. “We have to ask ourselves,” says the Cardinal, “if it is really complete in itself, to the degree that it has no need of a root outside itself.” The implied answer, of course, is no, the Enlightenment culture without the firm foundation of Europe’s roots in Christianity can only devolve into a pseudo and dogmatic religion, ultimately restrictive of freedom.

That is an incredibly powerful statement!
Secularism restricts freedom -- I love it!

12 posted on 07/29/2005 10:04:15 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: One Proud Dad
It is not, it is a disgusting blight on mankind, a sin, and an afront to God.

I disagree that homosexual attraction in and of itself is sinful. It is disordered because it is out-of-synch with what God intended, but so is myopia (which I have). Giving in to the homosexual attraction, however, is sinful. Also, refusing to get help from an organization such as COURAGE or NARTH, which helps people with homosexual attraction live normal, heterosexual lives, is perhaps sinful as well.
13 posted on 07/29/2005 10:05:08 AM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: murphE

Great quotes!


14 posted on 07/29/2005 10:05:11 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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homosexuality

adj 1: morally reprehensible; "would do something as despicable as murder"; "ugly crimes"; "the vile development of slavery appalled them" [syn: despicable, ugly, unworthy] 2: thoroughly unpleasant; "filthy (or foul or nasty or vile) weather we're having" [syn: filthy, foul, nasty] 3: causing or able to cause nausea; "a nauseating smell"; "nauseous offal"; "a sickening stench" [syn: nauseating, nauseous, noisome, loathsome, offensive, sickening]


15 posted on 07/29/2005 10:05:30 AM PDT by FearNoMan
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To: NYer

Pope Benedict just gets better and better! Thank you Holy Spirit for guiding the conclave!


16 posted on 07/29/2005 10:08:10 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (Papist. Veteran. American. Conservative. Tattooed. Pierced. Questions?)
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To: wideawake

Over the years I have chosen to dump the technical langauage or reasons of homosexuality and just call it what it is. I am getting lazy and less PC aware the older I get.

My wife albeit a conservative ( not as much a me ) is a psychologist and we have rather heated arguments over genetic versus learned behavior.


17 posted on 07/29/2005 10:12:01 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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Hitler and Stalin did the exact same thing EUrope is doing : scrubbing God from the public consciousness in preperation for severely limiting the freedom to speak or do anything. It's state authorized thought control.

No dictator can control the masses without first controlling their hearts and minds.


18 posted on 07/29/2005 10:14:07 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: NYer

Great post. Thank-you Rapsinger for stating the obvious. This Pope will get me in church more often.


20 posted on 07/29/2005 10:15:09 AM PDT by bubman
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