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Justice Breyer's Plainfield home eyed for 'Constitution Park'
Valley News ^ | July 28, 2005 | David Corriveau

Posted on 07/30/2005 11:55:25 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes

Justice Breyer's Plainfield Home Eyed for ‘Constitution Park' By David Corriveau Valley News Staff Writer Plainfield -- If the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire and its allies have their way, someday two stone monuments will stand on U.S. Supreme Court Justice Stephen G. Breyer's Plainfield property.

Short of that, the Libertarians hope to cause Breyer some discomfort for his vote last month on a controversial court decision freeing cities and towns to take land and turn it over to private developers. They are planning a petition drive asking Plainfield voters to take Breyer's 167-acre vacation retreat by eminent domain at their 2006 Town Meeting. After ousting the Breyers, the Libertarians would create “Constitution Park,” to include one monument commemorating the U.S. Constitution and another for the New Hampshire Constitution.

“The point is: What goes around, comes around,” Mike Lorrey, the Libertarian Party's vice chairman in New Hampshire's Second Congressional District, said yesterday. “This is a way of saying, ‘You’re going to be held to your own standard.' ”

Lorrey said that the effort follows up a California businessman's proposal to test that court decision by taking Justice David Souter's Weare, N.H., farm by eminent domain and replacing it with a posh “Lost Liberty Hotel.” Lorrey said that Edward Naile, president of the Coalition of New Hampshire Taxpayers, has recruited some Plainfield residents to go around town, seeking signatures of town voters. Naile did not return messages left for him yesterday.

(Excerpt) Read more at vnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: breyer; constitution; constitutionpark; eminentdomain; kelo; libertarian; scotus; stephenbreyer
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To: Past Your Eyes

Oops. Pardon the poor grammar. I "am" a law abiding citizen who "respects"....etc.


21 posted on 07/31/2005 4:28:10 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools reluctantly since 1947.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I would love to see this goober lose his residence. Then we could say, Hey Breyer, put some "ice cream" on that.


22 posted on 07/31/2005 4:38:41 AM PDT by doosee
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

give us an address for a map, never can tell when one of us might want to stop by for a "talk" about things.


23 posted on 07/31/2005 5:15:12 AM PDT by BILL_C
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To: NormsRevenge
They could always name it Bolshevik Park.
24 posted on 07/31/2005 5:17:51 AM PDT by reg45
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To: BILL_C

Do a ZABASEARCH, you can find amazing things. Download USAPHOTOMAPS, type in the address you come up with, and download a map. It is all freeware. Buy a GPS with a comm cable, download into it, and you get a little arrow showing you the way.
The Google maps and similar ones are fun to play with, but nothing beats USAPHOTOMAPS for functionality. It is too cool to describe, you have to try it.


25 posted on 07/31/2005 12:13:01 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: Past Your Eyes

LOL

Then they need to add one more monument, to Justice Breyer, without whose misguided idiocy it would not have been possible.


26 posted on 07/31/2005 12:17:11 PM PDT by SerpentDove (Mmmm...doughnuts...)
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To: SerpentDove

Hold that thought!
I rather doubt that anything like that will ever happen because we just don't operate like that in New Hampshire. But it sure is fun to think of the possibilities, isn't it?
";^)
Let's see, we got Souter, who's a native :(
Breyer with a "summer home" and Mitt Romney with a "place on the lake". I wonder how many more of them there are here that we don't even know about. Quite a few, I would venture.


27 posted on 07/31/2005 12:59:07 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools reluctantly since 1947.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
My family has a lot of land in "current use".

Is that the same as an agricultural use tax credit?....I'm looking to move to NH in about 2 yrs, and am watching property values. I would like to acquire a home with land, but only if I can obtain an agricultural type tax credit.

28 posted on 08/01/2005 7:06:44 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya

Not sure about agricultural tax credit. But any reputable realtor should be able to tell you about the current use rules and regulations. It doesn't have to be agricultural land...just "open" land.
Unless this real estate bubble pops and totally collapses, you'd better have a barrel of money if you expect to buy land here.


29 posted on 08/01/2005 12:39:52 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools reluctantly since 1947.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I live in the DC area...so my trade here equals land plus house up there. The only thing I'm trying to avoid is the heavy property tax burden. Considering there are few other taxes, I shouldn't complain....but if I buy a property over say half a mil, I'll need a tax credit of some sort. I'll have to look on NH .gov site for info on the in current use credits. My idea was to plant some teeny xmas trees and declare myself a tree farm. I'd like to find about 25 acres with either an old house or a contemporary, possibly with some water frontage or at least a farm pond, anywhere in southern NH.


30 posted on 08/01/2005 5:55:32 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Katya

Good luck. Your money would go a lot further in Northern NH, especially Coos County. Besides, southern NH is pretty much Massachusetts lite these days.
:(


31 posted on 08/01/2005 6:02:58 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools reluctantly since 1947.)
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To: river rat

Thanks for the congrats, folks.

As River Rat suggested, we are seeking support. I'm forming an organization for this, the Constitution Park Foundation.

http://constitutionpark.blogspot.com

At this site there is a link to a pledgebank page to pledge money, time, or if you are a Plainfield resident, a signature on the petition.

While ideally I'd like to offer Breyer the $199k value he pays taxes on, and that might be a good point to motivate him to challenge it in court, just to publicly illustrate how so many rich cheese heads use the current use law to create their own mini-kingdoms cheaply (and, btw, current use land is supposed to be open to public recreation like hunting, fishing, hiking, or snowmobiling, but Breyers is fenced), we'll likely need to fork over something around the assessed value (or higher).

His log home on the property is supposed to be over 4,900 sq ft, plus some outbuildings, plenty of space for an interpretive center, etc. and we may seek to build a lodge for folks to stay at (so there may be potential to work with Clements "Lost Liberty Hotel" on this) when attending constitution seminars. It all depends on how much folks want to work on this.


32 posted on 08/03/2005 11:14:49 AM PDT by mlorrey ("If the LP caused the FSP, then Nixon caused the War Powers Act" - Mike Lorrey)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

I never did get to that property this week, but I did find out that there is a gate. Could I access the property? No doubt. Will I? Nope, not without a valid reason...which may just happen some day. I'm patient.


33 posted on 08/05/2005 4:38:18 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools reluctantly since 1947.)
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To: doctorhugo

Amen. I add my congratulations to the NH Libertarians. What a great idea! Let's hope this, at least, creates major headaches for Breyer for years to come. I'll be happy to drop $25 on this, if I can find out where to send it.


34 posted on 08/12/2005 7:04:18 PM PDT by garryg24
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To: garryg24

You might want to simply email>>>
Chair of the New Hampshire Libertarian Party at
jbabiarz@lpnh.org

and ask if they have a support fund set up; specifically, in support of the Breyer issue. Good Luck!


35 posted on 08/13/2005 5:24:43 PM PDT by doctorhugo
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To: garryg24

Follow-up to my last reply to you.

Forgot to mention to you that one thing that really caught my attention is the supposed second effort of a similar nature to go after Justice's Souter's farm too.
Can't think of a better exercise of democracy in action as an upset public puts the feet of legislating Supreme Court justices to the fire. Today, I heard the first mention of the Breyer issue on the TV news. If things get rolling against Souter too..., it'll be all over and the pressure to NOT LEGISLATE FROM THE BENCH will be felt by ALL THE JUSTICES.


36 posted on 08/13/2005 5:33:22 PM PDT by doctorhugo
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