your wish is my command
Posted on 07/31/2005 10:21:57 AM PDT by boadecelia
Cops keep the faith
POLICE have been told to take their shoes off and not use sniffer dogs when raiding Muslim homes.
An 18-point guide issued by Bedfordshire Police lists dos and don'ts when dealing with Muslims who are suspected of terrorist or drugs offences.
The guidelines, which were reissued last week, state that 'the Muslim community feels victimised and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny'.
It then lists 18 points police officers should note.
These include:
• Rapid entry needs to be the last resort and raids into Muslim houses are discouraged for religious dignity reasons.
• Police should seek to avoid looking at unclad Muslim women and allow them to dress and cover their heads.
• For reasons of dignity officers should seek to avoid entering occupied bedrooms and bathrooms.
• Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises and may necessitate extensive cleaning of the house and disposal of household items.
• Advice should be sought before considering the use of cameras and camcorders due to the risk of capturing individuals, especially women, in inappropriate dress.
• Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.
• If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.
• Officers should not take shoes into the houses, especially in areas that might be kept pure for prayer purposes.
• In the current climate the justification for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.
• Non-Muslims are not allowed to touch holy books, Qurans or religious artefacts without permission. Where possible, Muslim officers in a state of 'Wudhu' should be used for this purpose.
A Bedfordshire Police spokesman said: "The guidelines are regularly issued to all staff as a reminder of the force protocol when entering a Muslim household.
"We take very seriously the culture surrounding all faiths and feel it is important to respect those beliefs, even while carrying out police business.
"We would like to reassure all communities that any current or perceived tensions, which might be heightened as a result of recent events, will not affect how police deal with Muslims or anyone else."
Zafar Khan, chairman of Luton Council of Faiths, said: "Guidelines on how to deal and interact with the community in all faiths should be welcomed."
PC kills.
dip em in dog urine I say
I'm gonna go to England and create my own religion where it states that I cant be arrested and can not be held accountable for any deed I may or may not do.
Sorry, that "religion" has already been invented. It's called "liberaism."
Can I get the same "respect" from a police officer if he chooses to search my home?
"Don't go in the bedroom, until I've cleaned up the place!"?
Some citizens are more equal than others, I guess.
Would the police show this much deference to Catholics in their churches or Orthodox Jews on the Sabbath? Didn't think so.
It is obvious that the Brits are not really taking this terror thing seriously, are they?
Make no mistake about it. This list won't stop with 18. Soon, there'll be a longer list.
And another...and another...and another...
Maybe this is Osama/Zarqawi's Master Plan: why spend any effort to conquer the West by force when you've got p.c. idiots willing to force the West into voluntary submission?
Pigs are used to hunt for truffles, surely they could be trained to search for explosives. Maybe the police could use a sniffer pig and leave the dogs outside.
ol' hoghead : )
Why should the "religion of pieces" receive preferential treatment?
This just proves to islamofascists that the Brits are well on the way to full blown Dhimmi status.
I would quit the police force before being told to treat likely miscreants like this. On the other hand, if they came into my house (not being muslim) wearing shoes and handled anything I consider holy, I would sue there tush off for discrimination.
Islam is a cult. The quicker we begin dealing with that, the safer we will all be.
Lest but not forgotten, British police now have to kiss Muslim arse end.
I'll bet those cute little Vietnamese pot bellied pigs would make great drug and bomb sniffers.
Just what you need when doing a raid, to catch one in the hat while removing your shoes before entry.
They should just surrender.
That pesky list of 18 could be easily reduced to 1 by making a simple phone call to the residence prior to arriving. Perhaps also contacting the local imam ahead of time to let him know of their intended visit.
There.. They make things so complicated.
Yup. Check my sigline.
This is classic proof of the idiotic mindset that now holds most of the world captive. Here we have police instructions for raiding a suspected criminal's home that prevent the police from touching numerous things, from going into certain rooms, indeed even from LOOKING in certain directions, all lest someone be OFFENDED. And of course it's necessary to leave one of their most effective tools (dogs) outside.
Can you IMAGINE a Christian trying to claim 1/1000th of this kind of respect if they were accused of something and police were entering their home?
MM
"A Bedfordshire Police spokesman said"
What I don't see listed are names from the Police Dept.
Is this for real or is this news paper more like the Onion or Enquirer?
It's 'for real'...posted as published...honest!
So the dignity of Muslims supercedes the dignity of every other British subject. So much for equality before the law. The enemy now has preferential status.
Indeed it is. ....but this mindset exists only in the leftist-American/European world. Their guilt about the prosperity of Western culture eats them alive. ....most likely because they firmly believe that this properity came about only as a result of the West's "exploitation" of the ROTW.
and of the Islamofascists respect for other cultures? How about the culture of Beslam where educating their small children is a cultural value?
They really are a bunch of weirdos. I don't like dogs, never have really. But to the rest of the world, insofar as I know, dogs are "man's best friend" and the Islamics hate them. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe in the Orient dogs are just food.
True enough, but they've successfully shoved it down just about everybody else's throat because the people in power don't have the will to stand against them. After all, the list of idiotic constraints in the article are indeed policy for ALL the UK police. Likewise, ten suspicious acting men of Middle-Eastern appearance can be in a boarding line in a U.S. airport, and only TWO of them can be subjected to secondary screening. I think idiocy like this only makes sense to 10%-20% of the people, yet that goofy minority has indeed managed to inflict it upon us all.
MM
No doubt about it.
Sweet Holy Jesus-
A list of RULES for a RAID on terrorists!! Don't go into the bathrooms or bedrooms- noooo! Leave them in there with their bombs and Kalishnikov's!
I'm sorry- a people who are TOO STUPID to defend themselves may just deserve to lose.
Get Camilla fitted for her burkha now.
Ah. . .point of order:
"Islam is a cult."
Should read:
"Islam is a DEATH cult."
Much better.
Why should Islam be singled out for special cirucmstances?
I think they should be told where they are living, and if they do not like it, they are free to leave.
It does no good to cave into Islam for any reason.
PC = insanity
Why bother then?
>I'm gonna go to England and create my own religion where >it states that I cant be arrested and can not be held >accountable for any deed I may or may not do.
>
(Turns to crowd) "The Messiah ! The Messiah has come !
(turns back to upstairs window) "Bless me oh Lord , your first disciple !"
"It must really suck being a British cop"
http://coppersblog.blogspot.com/
No.
Sadly, the Frogs are actually doing a much better job at cracking down on the islamofascists in their country than the Brits are.
As if it's not bad enough that Blair is turning out to be another Neville Chamberlain, it seems that Iraq is becoming Iran lite...
These should be called "The rules to a (literal) death of a country"
Yep, gotta keep those bomb sniffing dogs away from suspected bomb makers. When will they learn? And the dignity of the householders is somehow greater in a Muslim home? Huh? If SWAT or the officers on 'Cops' burst in on partially dressed non-Muslims or trailer park residents, do they not also possess dignity as fellow humans? This coddling is ridiculous.
your wish is my command
This letter was sent in to the police by breadwinner who gets the Bedfordshire on Sunday (free rag)
Chief Constable
Bedfordshire Police
One Law equally administered and respected by all communities.
It should be noted that the rights of Muslims are being more than respected by the police and the people of this country and they are being given an unfair advantage to all other communities, despite the fact that it is from Islam that this country is suffering its present abuses, why are Muslims not issuing fatwa’s against Jihad of the sword when they are being allowed to live here and prosper, why are Imams saying they are not in control of the youth in UK. It is this admission by some Imams which will make police intervention in Muslim life unavoidable.
However inconvenient this police intervention is, it should not be seen as an attack on the Muslim community, we must extend to the police the confidence that comes from a community that has nothing to hide and the trust which is synonymous in a peaceful society.
I would like to draw Muslims attention to the fact that because you may be praying that everything does not stop around you, people have to knock on your doors to deliver goods and they will not accept that you are praying when they go to their next delivery, nor will they remove their work wear shoes as this renders them partially liable in the event of an accident in your houses, this is common sense, if you do not answer the door you must be presumed to be out! We must also assume that for you to put these restrictions on police that you are not cooperating with the police, and your actions are designed to portray the police and the community which you live in as oppressive, not to the UK but to other Muslim nations, as was the case of the Jilbab and Ms Begum, what this clearly shows is that Muslims in Britain are playing “the oppressed” to the Muslim audience in the wider world.
With regard to the ‘untouchability’ of ‘religious books and artefacts including the Koran, the police are not hunting the Koran if it is in the house it is there as a personal item of the owner, he is responsible to as much as possible keep it safe. Muslims should understand that we give you much greater freedoms than are given to Christian people in Muslim countries, Saudi Arabia refuse us to have a Christian church on its soil, no Christian religious worship of any kind is allowed, neither prayer or prayer books are allowed. This is because the God of Islam is not the same God of the Christians and Jews. In Pakistan the Barnabus Trust have highlighted the plight of Christians who are accused of Blasphemy and have identified the use of the Blasphemy laws to deprive Christians of their property and their person, this is achieved by forcible conversion under threats, it is also highlighted by Amnesty and both sources cite the Sharia laws as responsible because Christians are not protected by them, from Muslims.
It is about time people in this country were made aware of the suffering of Christians and other non Muslims in other countries and apply a justified moral pressure to Muslims in Britain to reciprocate the rights and privileges which this country gives them by communicating that freedom to be emulated in the countries they have come from, we have allowed mosques to be built on a grand scale in the UK but Christian Copts in Egypt (and elsewhere) have restrictions on even repairs to a church having to be approved by the president of Egypt, Mr Mubarrek. It is also about time that we admitted the massive human rights violations perpetrated on non Muslims in Muslim countries. Above all we must also make Muslims understand that we also have religious communities which have no problems with the way the police interact with us, why, I wonder is that?
This is not just PC, it is crazy. In this country, the Constitutional provision of equal protection will prevent such an egregious misuse of liberal guilt.
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