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Carb-makers rejoice at demise of Atkins empire
LA Times ^ | 8/2/5 | Jerry Hirsc

Posted on 08/02/2005 4:08:21 PM PDT by SmithL

Bankruptcy shows diet is 'too extreme' for U.S., baker says.

In Boise, staff members of the Idaho Potato Commission gave each other gleeful high-fives when they heard the news. In Houston, the folks at the U.S. Rice Producers' Association declared "good riddance." And fruit farmers in the Central Valley said they were "happy to see them go."

Across the United States, producers of carbohydrate-laden food exulted at the decision by Atkins Nutritionals Inc., the Ronkonkoma, N.Y.-based designer of the once popular low-carbohydrate weight-loss program, to file for bankruptcy protection.

The company said it planned to reorganize and focus mainly on selling nutrition bars and shakes. But analysts and nutritionists said Atkins' bankruptcy filing effectively signaled the demise of the low-carb lifestyle and an era when tens of millions of Americans embraced high-protein diets rich in meat and cheese while eschewing carbohydrates and sugars in grains, fruits and vegetables.

"It just proves that what Atkins was trying to do was just too extreme," said Jeffrey Yankellow, a South San Francisco baking instructor and winner of the World Cup of Baking in Paris in April. "Bread has survived as a nutritional food for thousands of years, and Atkins isn't going to kill it."

In court papers, the company indicated that it was a victim of fierce competition from large food companies such as Unilever, Kraft Foods Inc. and General Mills Inc., which in the past few years rolled out their own lines of low-carb food.

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Son of a biscuit-eater!
1 posted on 08/02/2005 4:08:23 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Gimme bread and spuds, dude!


2 posted on 08/02/2005 4:12:12 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: SmithL

I suppose that maybe Atkins had a hard time making money on people not eating as much corb-heavy food.


3 posted on 08/02/2005 4:12:44 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: SmithL
Mmmmmm, potatoes!


5 posted on 08/02/2005 4:14:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: SmithL

Which sucks, because I lost 60 pounds and managed to get off my diabetes medication by switching to a low-carb diet. They do work for some people, although I was getting sick of them being touted as the One True Way of Dieting. There is no real One True Way, you gotta find what works for you, and Atkins works for me.

}:-)4


6 posted on 08/02/2005 4:15:28 PM PDT by Moose4 (Newsflash: It's the South. In the summer. IT GETS HOT. DEAL WITH IT.)
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To: SmithL

Hardee's 1400-calorie Thickburger

7 posted on 08/02/2005 4:15:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: SmithL

As most of us predicted here on this forum - it was just another fad that would not work and then would fade out.


8 posted on 08/02/2005 4:16:12 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SmithL
These guys are trying to kill off all diabetics.

We must fight back.

9 posted on 08/02/2005 4:17:04 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

BTW, all the carbs are in the bun, which is readily removed and thrown in the trash where it belongs. The meat, cheese, and toppings are other perfectly edible.


10 posted on 08/02/2005 4:18:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: SmithL
I never could reconcile myself with a diet devoid of bread, and especially beer!

That said, I personally know people who lost major amounts of weight on the Atkins diet; they swear by it. My own suspicions are that high protein diets may result in weight loss, but are nevertheless unhealthy. What good is it if you lose 45 pounds and gain a 200+ cholesteral level.

My guess is that Atkins may work best and be healthiest when you avoid egg yolks, fatty meats such as beef, and stick to chicken and pork.

11 posted on 08/02/2005 4:19:44 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: Republican Wildcat
it was just another fad that would not work and then would fade out.

It's been in use since the 70's. The diet is going nowhere. It works, but the gimmicky processed foods they tried to sell were a horrible idea. Most people only heard about it when low-carb became mainstream, but Atkins had been preaching it (and selling his diet books) for decades.
12 posted on 08/02/2005 4:20:04 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: muawiyah

I don't order the "hamburger pattie" on the kiddie menu.


13 posted on 08/02/2005 4:20:06 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: yooper
What good is it if you lose 45 pounds and gain a 200+ cholesteral level.

Atkins diet followers consistently show lower levels of bad cholesterol. Ingesting cholesterol does not increase blood serum levels of cholesterol.
14 posted on 08/02/2005 4:21:38 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: Moose4
because I lost 60 pounds and managed to get off my diabetes medication by switching to a low-carb diet.
Me too, fasting glucose <123 now.
15 posted on 08/02/2005 4:24:24 PM PDT by Riemann (Multiculturalism -- hate teach.)
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To: yooper
I never could reconcile myself with a diet devoid of bread, and especially beer!

Roman Meal Carb Aware, and Rolling Rock Green Light. No need to be deprived....
16 posted on 08/02/2005 4:25:07 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: yooper
What good is it if you lose 45 pounds and gain a 200+ cholesteral level.

I lost 32 lbs last year, and after a carb-filled holiday season, another 22 lbs so far this year. And my cholesterol is perfectly normal as of July 5.

I let myself off the diet every second or third weekend and on vacations and keep my weight fairly stable now. Atkins works but should be practised in moderation like anything else.

17 posted on 08/02/2005 4:25:14 PM PDT by ez (Let the tolerant learn to tolerate my intolerance!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Keep the bacon, cheese and burger! Mmmmmmmm!!! Though one patty would be enough on those Hardee's burgers. They're big.


18 posted on 08/02/2005 4:27:04 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: SmithL
The diet works and can be followed without using the Atkins products which are way overpriced.
20 posted on 08/02/2005 4:30:09 PM PDT by Arizona
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To: andyk

it was just another fad that would not work and then would fade out.

It's been in use since the 70's. The diet is going nowhere. It works, but the gimmicky processed foods they tried to sell were a horrible idea. Most people only heard about it when low-carb became mainstream, but Atkins had been preaching it (and selling his diet books) for decades.

Low carb was around before Atkins...the diet was actually introduced in the 1880s by an Englishman named Banting. What happened to Atkins is what often happens when a charismatic founder dies...e g Ray Kroc...the company he runs goes into decline.


21 posted on 08/02/2005 4:30:31 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: BigSkyFreeper

That would be great, if you remove the bun. :-)


22 posted on 08/02/2005 4:31:44 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido; F15Eagle

They actually have a low carb version of the Thickburger, the bun is replaced with a lettuce wrap.


23 posted on 08/02/2005 4:33:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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To: Republican Wildcat
As most of us predicted here on this forum - it was just another fad that would not work and then would fade out.

The theory didn't go bankrupt. The overpriced food supplier did.

Been on the diet,it works and I never bought any Atkins food because it wasn't necessary to the diet.

24 posted on 08/02/2005 4:34:56 PM PDT by leadhead (Momma don't let your babies grow up to be Dumborats)
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To: kaktuskid
Low carb was around before Atkins...the diet was actually introduced in the 1880s by an Englishman named Banting. What happened to Atkins is what often happens when a charismatic founder dies...e g Ray Kroc...the company he runs goes into decline.

Very true.
25 posted on 08/02/2005 4:35:30 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Oh yeah. I've tried those. I like their new burger; it's pretty good. But I can't even finish a (bun included) Six Dollar Burger and I'm 6'1" and 250. I'm gonna do the Atkins thing one of these days. Friend's dad lost 70lbs on Atkins and from what I hear, looks and feels a whole lot better.


26 posted on 08/02/2005 4:37:56 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: SmithL
It was only the food products company that applied for re-organization.

Lots of mis-reporting here.

27 posted on 08/02/2005 4:39:59 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: SmithL

Yum, yum, I'm going for four barrels.

28 posted on 08/02/2005 4:49:24 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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To: SmithL

Yum, yum, I'm going for four barrels.

29 posted on 08/02/2005 4:49:24 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Lonesome's First Law: Whenever anyone says it's not about the money, it's about the money.)
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To: SmithL
"It just proves that what Atkins was trying to do was just too extreme,"

Atkins was right on - Americans are just too sugar-addicted and lack the self-discipline to stick with the diet for the several months it tales to achieve real results.

30 posted on 08/02/2005 4:52:18 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Democracy...will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel." -- John Adams)
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To: SmithL

It must be the same idiots rejoicing who were the same idiots shoving carb heavy 'low fat' sugar loaded foods down everyone's throat. The Atkins diet is still going strong, but in a fair market the best products survive not the first ones. Pasta, potato, and bread makers head better get innovative, or a lot more of them (as have) are going to go belly up.


31 posted on 08/02/2005 5:04:00 PM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: SmithL
The problem with Atkins is that their products aren't necessary to meet the objectives of the diet. You can eat meat, salad, and sugar free jello and lose weight without ever purchasing an Atkins product.
32 posted on 08/02/2005 5:04:19 PM PDT by Jaysun (Name one war — anywhere — that had a "timetable".)
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To: SmithL
My "Twinkies", are safe NOW...Interbrand Bakerys, Inc. can now be bought back to health. (they also declared Bankruptcy)
33 posted on 08/02/2005 5:07:16 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: andyk

That is my experience as well.

mc


34 posted on 08/02/2005 5:31:03 PM PDT by mcshot (Boldly going nowhere with a smile and appreciation for life.)
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To: SmithL

I bet the Kidney and Heart Associations are also rejoicing. The Atkins low carb diet sent many women to the hospital with kidney stones. The body has to have enough carbs to function properly.


35 posted on 08/02/2005 5:31:41 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: yooper

High cholesteral in itself is not a danger to your health. I'm told that it is the "Ratio" of good to bad cholesteral that is important... and in my case after losing 55 lbs. my cholesteral went up...but the ratio improved tremendously. My Oncologist said "Whatever you're doing seems to be working. Keep it up".

Cancer free now four years and counting!


36 posted on 08/02/2005 5:43:44 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: SmithL
I'm a big fan of the Atkins low-carb approach. In fact, I refer to it as "normal-carb" diet. It allowed me to lose over 100 pounds during 2003 and for the past two years, I've been maintaining a close to normal weight. Sure beats being obese during all those years I had a "high-carb" diet.

BTW, I skipped the induction phase which I think was totally unnecessary. I just dropped my carb intake to about 100 grams a day and did a five-mile walk every day.

Where I think the Atkins company went wrong was when they started introducing all those low-carb "candy bars" and other such junk.

When the Atkins Diet was associated with a healthy diet of meat, cheese, fish, nuts, olive oil, lamps, yogurt, and berries, it was good. But then when Atkins put their name on all those "low-carb" junk foods, they started losing a lot of credibility.

37 posted on 08/02/2005 5:45:24 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Need a Waffle House in Massachusetts)
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To: yooper
This whole "cholesterol" thing is a myth when applied to low-carb eating. It's not how much cholesterol you consume but how your body processes cholesterol that matters. A healthy diet of natural foods with regular exercise will keep your cholesterol under control no matter how much cholesterol you take in.

Consider that even in the total lack of cholesterol in your diet, your body will simply manufacture its own cholesterol!

For years, I have had at least two eggs a day, lots of cheese, red meat and nuts. I will even eat a plate of cooked chicken livers! Yet my cholesterol is consistently in the 175 to 185 range. I also walk 5 miles per day.

38 posted on 08/02/2005 5:49:57 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Need a Waffle House in Massachusetts)
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To: yooper
This whole "cholesterol" thing is a myth when applied to low-carb eating. It's not how much cholesterol you consume but how your body processes cholesterol that matters. A healthy diet of natural foods with regular exercise will keep your cholesterol under control no matter how much cholesterol you take in.

Consider that even in the total lack of cholesterol in your diet, your body will simply manufacture its own cholesterol!

For years, I have had at least two eggs a day, lots of cheese, red meat and nuts. I will even eat a plate of cooked chicken livers! Yet my cholesterol is consistently in the 175 to 185 range. I also walk 5 miles per day.

39 posted on 08/02/2005 5:49:58 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Need a Waffle House in Massachusetts)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
And Jared rejoiced...


40 posted on 08/02/2005 5:54:55 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Large buttocks are pleasing to me, nor am I able to lie concerning this matter)
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To: beezdotcom

Actually, I'm a calorie counter myself. But you gotta love Rolling Rock Light!


41 posted on 08/02/2005 5:56:24 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Large buttocks are pleasing to me, nor am I able to lie concerning this matter)
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To: SmithL

Another successful lo-carber here, I lost a lot of weight with the lifestyle. It's NOT A "DIET", in that you do it for a few weeks/months, then stop. You have to commit to doing it for good, otherwise, don't bother. It's not for everyone. Everyone has unique body chemistry and a different genetic background, some do great on it, some don't do well at all.

The recent "fad" was more harmful than good, because people "did lo-carb" without finding out what the true lifestyle is - they'd load up on the so-called "carb free" food, which was'nt, and GAIN weight. It's the same BS as the so-called "fat-free" food - sure, they took the fat out (and the flavor), but loaded it right back up with cheap fructose syrup and sugars. I laughed out loud in the grocery when I looked at a so-called "lo-carb" bread, and saw that one slice had more sugar and carbs than are allowed in two days doing strict lo-carb.

I did lo-carb to control my weight, and I continue to do it for two reasons:

One, cutting sugar and wheat from my diet made me think better, feel a thousand times better, I have more stamina, more energy, and most of all, it changed my emotional state. I went into lo-carb after pulling out of yet another cycle of depression, one I'd been fighting since high school. It was'nt serious, in that I never thought of killing myself, or anything, but I'd just get bummed out, unmotivated, negative, cranky...changing to lo-carb changed all of that. I'm now happy again, just being. I'm positive, I'm rarely if ever depressed. People remark not only on the weight loss, but the change in personality for me. Oh, and my teeth, breath, and body odor disapeared, what i thought was irritibal bowel syndrome disapeared, I no longer eat a bottle of tums a day, and I sleep 5 hours, on the dot, don't need an alarm clock, and I wake up feeling refreshed and alert. Before, I was a 8-10 hour person, got up groggy and bitter, and don't talk to me before noon kind of person. I've had my physical every year, my doctor was THRILLED with the results, and I went from borderline you-might-have-a-problem high-ish blood pressure to what my doctor called "perfect". My cholesteral ratios are fine.

My social life also VASTLY improved, if you know what I mean. (I'm single..nudge nudge, wink wink)

Two, sugar (cane and fructose-derived) and starch are evil, in the amounts this culture eats on a daily basis. There are ZERO reasons for the amounts we eat, other than food manufacturers very cynically and greedily know that the sweeter food is, the more people buy, and fructose is a cheap flavoring agent and filler. I will not EVER return to a diet that has sugars and white processed flour - when I do go off, which I do every once in a while, the sugars I go for are fruit, and flours are whole-wheat, or ryes.

It's sick, how it makes me feel now. If I have carbs, especially sugar-rich foods, I feel ill within 20 minutes. I can feel my blood pressure rise. I'll feel sick for 24hours, until I can get the crap out of my system. I'll sleep like crap, too. That's what makes it easy for me, how **bad** carbs make me feel. I question other people these days, and a lot of the time, I can pinpoint "feeling crummy" to an overindulgence of crap food.

There's a rule of thumb for lo-carb - shop along the outside aisles of a grocery, anything in the aisles besides coffee, frozen veggies, peanut butter and nuts, and artiicial sweeteners, is not allowed. Most eerything in the center aisles is bad.

Do what i did. Read the labels on everything you buy, and eat, for a month. Add up how much sugar and processed flour and preservatives and additives and junk you consume.

Me, I eat meat, fish, lots of veggies, fresh ground coffee with whipping cream and Splenda, nuts, cheese...I eat WELL. It's mostly fresh, it's got very little preservatives, and it all tastes good - that's another thing, when you drop sugar, you find how much your tastebuds have been coated and numbed by sugar. I LOVE pepper now. I hated it my whole life. Fresh steamed brussel sprouts (no butter, salt or pepper) are DIVINE.

Lo-carb isn't for everyone, but for me, it was a miracle. You can parrot the "it's bad for you!" mantra as much as you like, but I did the research, and I'm LIVING the changes it did for me. Like I said, it's not for everyone. Besides, beyond nutrients that I can and do take through supplements (like potassium), can you really say that a diet based on fresh meat, fresh poultry, and fresh veggies is bad? Why do we NEED flour, or sugar? Fruit, you can argue, and during "maintainence", you can eat berries, and limited amounts of fruit.

The only answer I've been able to find, is the Government pushes grains and corn, to spur the sales of the same for subsidized American farmers, and because the multi-billion dollar conglomerates want to sell you the corn (fructose) and processed white flour.


42 posted on 08/02/2005 6:16:35 PM PDT by ByDesign
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To: SmithL

I never met a carb I didn't love!


43 posted on 08/02/2005 6:18:28 PM PDT by ladyinred (Here come the judges!)
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To: yooper
Atkin's-type diets will definitely work short-term, especially for your friends if they are beer drinkers as well. In my grandfather's time it was called the drinking man's diet and it would drop the pounds (provided you substituted whiskey for the beer). However, 70 years ago they had the sense to realize what a shock this was to your system and that it was not sustainable long-term. This bankruptcy comes as absolutely no surprise.
44 posted on 08/02/2005 6:24:35 PM PDT by ExcelJockey
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To: SamAdams76
Where I think the Atkins company went wrong was when they started introducing all those low-carb "candy bars" and other such junk.

The shakes and bars were good for times when you were on the go but the rest was unnecessary.

And frankly the sugar free candy wrecks havoc on my system.

About all I buy is the shakes for times when I can't stop for a meal and the lo-carb wraps.

45 posted on 08/02/2005 6:31:38 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Warning: May bite (Adjusts tin foil hat with stylish copper lining))
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To: Jaysun

http://www.bodyforlife.com/


46 posted on 08/02/2005 7:00:12 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: SmithL

People ain't turning away from the Atkins diet, they're turning away from paying $5.00 for a loaf of bread.

What on earth were they thinking?


47 posted on 08/02/2005 7:36:13 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: muawiyah
These guys are trying to kill off all diabetics.

Or make diabetics out of the rest of us. I like summer fruit, and won't give it up, but potatoes, converted rice...gone.

48 posted on 08/02/2005 7:40:25 PM PDT by Desdemona (Music Librarian and provider of cucumber sandwiches, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary. Hats required.)
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To: ByDesign
Learn to like rye crisps.

In fact, I regularly buy large wheels just like the traditional product down at the Ikea store.

49 posted on 08/02/2005 7:49:31 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: yooper
Add cheese ~ dairy products have an enzyme in them that assists you in lowering your cholesterol ~ so do nuts.

That way you don't have to eat so much meat.

You also have to have "new fat" in your diet in order for the body to produce the enzymes necessary to burn up the "old fat" already in your cells.

It's not the high protein that gives you the weight loss ~ rather, it's the loss of the poisonous starches and sugars.

50 posted on 08/02/2005 7:51:59 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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