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Roberts helped gay-rights activists win landmark ruling
Los Angeles Times ^ | August 4, 2005 | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 08/04/2005 3:51:18 AM PDT by joeu

WASHINGTON -- Supreme Court nominee John G. Roberts Jr. worked behind the scenes for a coalition of gay-rights activists, and his legal expertise helped them persuade the Supreme Court to issue a landmark 1996 ruling protecting people against discrimination because of their sexual orientation.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; johnroberts; romervevans; scotus
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To: Varda
perhaps you could tell me what he's done that makes you his advocate here.

Have you read the dozen or so other articles from his Reagan era work where he opposed bussing, Affirm. Action, Roe v Wade, or his later work where he opposed and ruled against the EPA, or where he took a restrictive view of the Commerce Clause, or his recent rulings where he upheld military tribunals for terrorists?

21 posted on 08/04/2005 6:01:23 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Dog

But Dog - why would a lawyer do pro-bono work for a group they should diametrically oppose? I mean, it's one thing to be on the sidelines and say "yeah, discrimination based on sexual orientation is wrong," but it's another thing to devote your time and energy pro-bono. Lawyers aren't exactly sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

The only hope is that he's refined his views over the past ten years and is more pro-family than this.


22 posted on 08/04/2005 6:02:04 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Dog

Souter and Kennedy had full-backing, too. Blind loyalty to the presidency has kept the culture of death vibrant. See "Arlen Specter outrage dissipates in afterglow of election victory."


23 posted on 08/04/2005 6:04:12 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Dog
just because he isn't a flamethrower doesn't mean he isn't qualified to sit on SCOTUS.

There are lots of liberal judges "qualified" to sit on SCOTUS. That's a pretty low bar to set given the historical opportunity to undo the abuses of the activist court.

24 posted on 08/04/2005 6:06:20 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: joeu; Dog

The issue is whether Judge Roberts is a strict constructionist or not. The cited case doesn't tell us anything about that, one way or the other.

The confirmation hearings should tell us what we need to know, particularly when Senator Coburn is questioning. I would pay attention to that, rather than anything coming out in the media before then.


25 posted on 08/04/2005 6:15:39 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: MBB1984
This is scary. It is especially troublesome that it was pro bono work and that he apparently volunteered to some extent his services.

umm come on. don't believe everything you read, especially when it so provocatively spun.

26 posted on 08/04/2005 6:16:38 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: joeu

So far we've been doing nothing but trying to read dry tea leaves and look at chicken entrails to determine what this individual will do if he's confirmed. Now we have a single solid piece of evidence, AND IT'S BAD. That an attorney takes a case for a paying client and argues it says little or nothing about whether the attorney agrees with the client's position--a Democrat plumber can just as well fix a Republican's toilet without becoming a Republican.

When its pro bono, it's very different. The attorney, Roberts in this case, is giving his time. When that time and skill are given to an ideological cause, as he did here, the only reasonable conclusion is he supports that cause. What's even more disturbing is that this case overturned a popular referendum, meaning that, contrary to some of the VERY SMALL indications he's given to the contrary, he could easily be another Souter or Stevens.

This also raises a serious issue about his integrity. The Senate questionnaire he received called on him to list all pro bono cases he'd been involved in. He failed to list this one. Those who believe in judicial tooth faeries can believe he did this unintentionally.

In short, we now have a Republican nominated candidate for the Supreme Court whose greatest judicial success was acting as a pro bono stealth lawyer for homosexual activists and winning an activist decision that overturned a popular referendum. Then, when asked about his work on pro bono cases, he lied to the Senate by not disclosing this work. As far as I'm concerned, this disqualifies him for the seat, both ideologically and ethically.


27 posted on 08/04/2005 6:19:46 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
"Then, when asked about his work on pro bono cases, he lied to the Senate by not disclosing this work. As far as I'm concerned, this disqualifies him for the seat, both ideologically and ethically."

I too am not sure Roberts is a true conservative..but you seem to have hung him prior to any fair hearing on what really happened with his probono work in this case - if it is even true as reported- we all know the MSM never gets it wrong LOL.
28 posted on 08/04/2005 6:25:08 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

If the referendum in question didn't deny the right of homosexuals to protection under the law as persons and as citizens (and I don't see how it could) than it only defined homosexuality as a distinction that wasn't accorded protection under the constitution of Colorado. This SCOTUS ruling placed homosesxuality in the same catagory of distinction as black and female.

Homosexuality is rightly viewed as a destructive behavior and the people of Colorado voted not to give this trait legal protection. Sometimes discrimination is a good thing.


29 posted on 08/04/2005 6:28:01 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

OK


30 posted on 08/04/2005 6:29:56 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
Roberts did not mention his work on the gay-rights case in his 67-page response to a Senate Judiciary Committee questionnaire released Tuesday.

The committee asked for ''specific instances" in which he had performed pro bono work, how he had fulfilled those responsibilities, and the amount of time he had devoted to them.

This pretty well ices it. Even the MSM would have a hard time getting that wrong.

31 posted on 08/04/2005 6:30:48 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: the invisib1e hand

The lack of opposition on the left should send a chill down your spine.


32 posted on 08/04/2005 6:31:24 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: ConsentofGoverned
This issue is portrayed as somehow homosexuals are just minding their own business, and Christians are on a witch hunt, spying on them and discover their homosexuality. Then the mean Christians persecute these innocent homosexuals.

The reality is homosexual militants are waging war against Christian communities that say homosexuality is wrong. They want to create legal precedents so they can attack Christian communities through the law.

Once they have special legal status as a homosexual, they can flaunt it (which they do). Then when someone "discriminates", they can sue.

They want more than to just have a place to live. They want to evangelize their behavior. They want to be your children's teachers at school. They want to adopt children. They want their agenda to be promoted through public education of children.

If you don't like it, they have laws to go after you. In Canada, expressing opposition to homosexuality can cause major legal problems. It might even be considered "hate speech". This is what they want here.
33 posted on 08/04/2005 6:33:16 AM PDT by unlearner
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To: ConsentofGoverned

"however as taken from the article the ability to deny a person housing based on sexual orientation is not a good policy to support"

Rubbish. That's an excellent policy to support. And even if a property owner doesn't support it himself, he should be free in this country to rent to whomever he feels like. Roberts should have been taking pro bono work to do things like scale back takings, to attempt to prove that rent control is unconstitutional, that sort of thing.

This is idiotic. Souter never did anything like that...and he probably benefitted from these sorts of laws.

At any rate...he is sort of saying that he was doing this because it was a client of the firm and he was obliged to help his partners. I can sort of see that point. But he could have politely declined to help his partner. I doubt his partner would help him on pro bono work for pro life charities, would he? Probably not. Pro bono can be the domain of the person working on it. Not everyone in a firm has to jump on board (although the firm does represent the clinet as a matter of ethics).


34 posted on 08/04/2005 6:37:06 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Rutles4Ever

The other thing that's really disturbing is Roberts has been an active and popular member of the D. C. social scene for most of his career, one of the most corrupting things that can happen to a conservative.


35 posted on 08/04/2005 6:37:35 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: joeu; All

duplicate:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1456604/posts?page=60

Plant story.


36 posted on 08/04/2005 6:39:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: libstripper

That is different from what you earlier posted. The request was NOT to list ALL pro bono work but "specific instances." To an honest person your phrasing was deceptive if not dishonest. Put the rail, tar and feathers away.


37 posted on 08/04/2005 6:39:37 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: nwrep

I think pro bono work says more about his personal philosophy. It's a positive that he ruled the way he did against the EPA and about the Commerce Clause but I admit I'm more concerned with social issues and the right of the people to determine those.


38 posted on 08/04/2005 6:40:22 AM PDT by Varda
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To: joeu
The lawyer who asked for his help on the case, Walter A. Smith Jr., then-head of the pro bono department at Hogan & Hartson, said Roberts did not hesitate.

Hogan and Hartson? Hogan and Hartson?

Berger was at Hogan and Hartson. They have represented the DNC, Comunist China, Bill Clinton's Innagural Committee, John Huang...

Read about them here.

39 posted on 08/04/2005 6:41:40 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Rutles4Ever

There is no ethics rule that says a lawyer must work over a morally objectionable case.

In fact it is just the opposite.

The other post does not have him doing work, only giving advice "of some kind".

For all we know his advice could have been, "down the hall to the right".


40 posted on 08/04/2005 6:42:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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