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NCAA deems Utah's "Utes" nickname to be "hostile or abusive"
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 8/5/2005 | Tribune staff and wire services

Posted on 08/05/2005 9:28:11 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I noticed that the UNC-Pembroke Braves got a pass by the NCAA. I wonder if the Lumbee Indians that comprise a majority of their students and alumni had something to say about it.

On the opposite side of the coin...
My son and I both attend Francis Marion University, our mascot is The Patriot, symbolized by the original Swamp Fox, Col. Francis Marion. I wonder when someone will complain about this insulting and degrading use of a white man's image?

41 posted on 08/05/2005 10:15:01 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
June 17, 2005.............. Seminole Tribe supports use of Seminole name
42 posted on 08/05/2005 10:17:36 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
And how do the Chippewas feel about the NCAA????

In response to yet another outside body trying to influence whether or not Central Michigan University and other schools should employ Native American nicknames, the Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe issued a sharply-worded rebuke: Stay out of our business.

That was a JOINT statement from CMU and the Saginaw Chippewa Indians themselves.

43 posted on 08/05/2005 10:18:28 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Yep, UNC-Pembroke can use the name 'Braves' since the school was originally set up as one for the Lumbee Indians and the alums did have a lot to say in the matter.


44 posted on 08/05/2005 10:24:39 PM PDT by Tarheel (Tarheel born, Tarheel bred, When I die I am Tarheel dead.)
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To: dr_lew
I think the result of this nonsense won't be seen for some years down the road. It has been said liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its' stated intent. People will be afraid to say Indian or any other reference to Native Americans and thus they will be forgotten and fade into oblivion. What a great way to show how much you respect them. Somehow those great battles of years gone by loses something when thought of as the Dallas Cattle People and the Washington Politicians.
45 posted on 08/05/2005 10:30:23 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"They should rename the Utes to the "White Trash Rednecks" or "Lardasses"."

Sorry, "White Trash Rednecks" was just snatched up by West Virginia University. Apparently they were concerned that "Mountaineers" would soon become offensive to the NCAA, too.

Hey, "Fighting Polygamists" is still up for grabs,...


46 posted on 08/05/2005 10:35:14 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Guess I'll just fade into Bolivia." - Iron Mike Tyson)
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A few years ago the Devils Lake ND High School changed their nickname from the "Satans" and the "Devils Lake Sioux Tribe" changed their name to the "Spirit Lake Nation"

Guess the Devil made 'em do it!

Devils Lake is about 90 miles west of Grand Forks ND, home of the "UND Fighting Sioux." UND spends tons of money on Indian (or is the PC term Native Americans?) programs like "Inmed" (short for Indians in Medicine, I guess "NAmed" doesn't have the same "ring" to it)


47 posted on 08/05/2005 10:37:44 PM PDT by Sgt.Po-Po
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Or call them the Utah Uselesses. Oh no, that will offend the people on welfare and skid row.


48 posted on 08/05/2005 10:51:30 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: little jeremiah
If I remember the story correctly, I believe "Fighting Whities" was a group of Native Americans who chose this for the name of their basketball team. In effect they chose the name that it might be offensive to Caucasians, which I think misses the point altogether.

The attributes of teams named after tribes, warriors, braves is actually meant to be be complimentary to these people.

I don't know about some of the mascots in the big suits. I suppose I might understand how someone might be offended by that, but again I don't really think denigrating or making fun of those tribes is the motivation.

Here in the DC area they go through the PC motions on the Redskins every few years. I've grown so weary of it that I wish they would simply put a potato on their helmets and call it a day. I think all this nonsense is silly.

The NCAA should be more involved in things like making sure that their "student atheletes" do a better job of getting "edjimikated."
49 posted on 08/05/2005 10:52:24 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Guess I'll just fade into Bolivia." - Iron Mike Tyson)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Here's a couple more for good measure. Hope these don't hurt anyone's feelings:

The Oregon Effeminate Lumberjacks

The Notre Dame Fighting Milk Snakes

The UNLV Running Ambulance Chasers

The Marshall Thundering Pacifists

The Villanova Trial Lawyers

The St. John's Inoffensive Twits

The Central Michigan Marginalized Indigenous Peoples

The Syracuse Victims Alliance
50 posted on 08/05/2005 11:07:21 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Pain is only temporary, no matter how long it lasts." - Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens)
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To: little jeremiah

Maybe they should just go with vegetable names. For instance, Scottsdale Community College's football team is called...the Artichokes! Cracks me up every time I hear it. I honestly don't know how the announcers keep a straight face when commenting on the game.


51 posted on 08/05/2005 11:11:18 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I heard on Fox (i think it was fox) that Florida State plans to fight this. I hope all these schools band together and fight it. it is not just silly, its outrageous.


52 posted on 08/05/2005 11:13:14 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: IrishRainy

Right, plant or insect names couldn't possibly offend anyone, except, of course, actual plants and insects. But they can't use phones and call lawyers.

"The Dung Beetles". "Fighting Fireflies". "Crabgrass". Those are butt-kicking names, aren't they!


53 posted on 08/05/2005 11:16:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: George Stupidnopolis
Tune in next week when The Fighting Irish are deemed insensitive to leprechauns

Yes, but I guess leprechauns are not members of a politically protected group.

54 posted on 08/05/2005 11:21:13 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
--Central Michigan University (Chippewas)
--Catawba College (Indians)
--Florida State University (Seminoles)
--Midwestern State University (Indians)
--University of Utah (Utes)
--Indiana University-Pennsylvania (Indians)
--Arkansas State University (Indians)
--University of Illinois-Champaign (Illini)
--University of Louisiana-Monroe (Indians)
--McMurry University (Indians)
--Mississippi College (Choctaws)

--Newberry College (Indians)
--University of North Dakota (Fighting Sioux)

If those are offensive just because they are named for Indian tribes, then what about the names of the states themselves? A lot of them are named for Indian tribes. If just the name of a tribe is now somehow deemed to be offensive we will have to change the names of at least these states:

Alabama - May come from Choctaw meaning “thicket-clearers” or “vegetation-gatherers”

Arkansas - From the Quapaw Indians

Illinois - Algonquin for “tribe of superior men”

Indiana - Meaning “land of Indians”

Iowa - Probably from an Indian word meaning “this is the place” or “the Beautiful Land”

Kansas - From a Sioux word meaning “people of the south wind”

Massachusetts - From Massachusett tribe of Native Americans, meaning “at or about the great hill”

Missouri - Named after the Missouri Indian tribe. “Missouri” means “town of the large canoes.”

New Mexico - From Mexico, “place of Mexitli,” an Aztec god or leader

North and South Dakota - From the Sioux tribe, meaning “allies”

Oklahoma - From two Choctaw Indian words meaning “red people”

Utah - From the Ute tribe, meaning “people of the mountains”


55 posted on 08/05/2005 11:25:11 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: IrishRainy

I like that.

There are a couple of California schools that I think came into the mascot naming game a bit late. I'm guessing the 60's; The Irvine Anteaters and - personal fave, but I think Division II - The UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs


56 posted on 08/05/2005 11:26:14 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Pain is only temporary, no matter how long it lasts." - Ray Lewis, Baltimore Ravens)
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To: Frank_2001
Hey, maybe ol' ''Dollar Bill'' Bradley (retired Senator, (D), New Moscow) could play for the ''Bucks''.

Or just maybe, as their jersey used to feature (may still do -- I don't watch the NDJSBA, the No-Defense Jam and Slam Basketball Association, any more, haven't for years) the nickname of Milwaukee's team is about full racks.

The admission of which fact, of course, would doubtless entice the PC nazis (n.b. no nazi ever deserves capitalisation) to begin arguing for women to be placed on the team. Affirmative action, and all that.

Perhaps they can have two balls (not the league; they've none, but the players) on the court at the same time, the 29-inch ball for the ladies, and the normal 30-inch ball for the players.

Extra point(s) awarded for a guyshotgalshot in sequence, less than 2 seconds apart? Why not?

Great Bloody **rist, wtf IS this nonsense?! I can only hope that Dante Aligheri consigned those who would further wreck what was once a very fine game to a separate circle in Il Inferno, one within and without which **absolutely** no travelling is allowed.

57 posted on 08/05/2005 11:27:24 PM PDT by SAJ (`)
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58 posted on 08/05/2005 11:27:57 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
What about the Ragin Cajuns?

What about the Sooners?

What about the..."Trojans"?

59 posted on 08/05/2005 11:31:02 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: incredulous joe
The New York University Long Island Teas?

Why not?

Sheesh, what effing morons the NCAA have become (not new news; they were the same degree of morons in 1969 when they suspended Yale (of all schools, what a laugh!) when Jack Langer played in the ''un-sanctioned'' Maccabiah Games of that year.

Just an agglomeration of power-mad jerkoffs...not unlike Hitlery, come to think of it, except she's singular and they're plural.

60 posted on 08/05/2005 11:31:37 PM PDT by SAJ (`)
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