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If this is duplicated...My apologies...just seen it on their (ABC News) site today.
They truly are NOT crazy, what they are is truely devoted.
Psychiatry is the biggest form of theoretical hocus pocus in America.
While there is probably some truth in this report, it comes across as a justification for terrorism.
Cherrypicking bygone human imperfections that have nothing to do with anything and using them to rationalize the preaching of nihilistic mass murder to the young, impressionable and vulnerable gets me crazy.
They may not be crazy, but they are definitely evil.
"Through much of the Muslim world, and even some of Europe," McCauley said, "it's believed that the embargo on Saddam Hussein's Iraq caused the deaths of several hundred thousand people, most of them children, from bad water, untreated sewage, lack of proper medical care."
I guess evil just can't see evil. I don't know how else to explain this mindset.
that's effin' insane......there is nothing sane about recruiting people to commit mass murder.....
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It doesn't matter whether they are crazy.
What they indisputably are is evil.
Were SS camp guards crazy? They were evil.
Could it be that they are "sane" in the organic sense, but "insane" in a cultural or intellectual way, if that is possible? The idea that a young person would rashly and foolishly throw away their lives committing a heinous crime of senseless murder, poisoning their own memories and the world's impression of their supposed "cause" as monstrously evil, is at the very least counterproductive, and is in reality, idiotic.
Perhaps these people are not "insane" as in psychotic or bipolar, but they are culturally poisoned and made basically incapable of what we call rational decision making... another way of saying that they are simply or foolishly and suicidally evil?
The outrage is in the way the 'journalist' twists the quotes to support his theme of moral equivalence between the terrorists and civilised human beings. First he lumps very different military actions into the same category. The Tamil rebels of Sri Lanka he refers to ARE terrorists, the only difference being that the Tamils hope to impose their dark vision on an island and the Islamists hope to impose their dark vision on the whole world. The Japanese kamikazees where something different entirely. They were soldiers in uniform, fighting in a declared war, delivering weapons against enemy troops. It was a ruthless tactic and contrary to our values, but they did not hide behind the cover of a civilian population to randomly kill other civilians. The soldiers of Gettysburg were so far removed from the terrorists that the comparison is offensive.
The conclusion the author wants us to draw is that the terrorists should be thought of as fighters for a cause, and admired for their devotion, while they are killing us. The conclusion that should be drawn is that some ideaologies are so vile that they should not be tolerated. It is not safe to allow radical Islamists to indoctrinate generations of young people anywhere in the world, precisely because 'normal' humans can be conditioned to do horrible things.
If suicide bombers are not crazy, then it means that nobody is ever crazy. Therefore, the profession of psycology is a scam. Thanks for clearing that up, I always suspected it.
The "Experts" are nuts.
Outright suicide attacks, as opposed to merely risking one's life, make sense only in protecting IMMEDIATE lives or for a reward in the afterlife. Doing so for any other "reason" is nuts by definition. And there is the rub - these nutty "experts" set up their phony definitions to try to make their fellow anti-Americans seem normal.
Then what is nuts is believing in a "god" who wants you to go around commiting indiscriminate murder. I'd turn my weapon on "god" first.
"Absolutely, this is normal psychology, normal group dynamics," said Clark R. McCauley, a Bryn Mawr College psychology professor who is part of an outside team consulting for the Department of Homeland Security.
"Normal people, given the right circumstances or right set of friends, can become suicide bombers," said Marc Sageman, a forensic psychiatrist and former CIA officer.
THIS IS BUNK....
First, remember it was the "psychiatrists" who decided that Adolf Eichman was "sane"...they ignored that sociopathy is a personality disorder.
Second, although under stress and group psychosis, you can "brainwash" ALMOST anyone, the suicide bombers are NOT isolated...they choose to ignore outside influences that go against killing the innocent, and the inner impulse to live. In psychiatry there is a syndrome called the delusion of two, where two people who live together get involved in a group delusion. This is closer to suicide bombers...but remember: They are not isolated, so have a choice.
Finally, although some people have personalities that are vulnerable to brainwashing, there is a small percentage that refuse it...the majority of people can refuse to follow it early in the game, but some continue to refuse to give up their independent thinking even under severe pressure...
Remember the JimJones cult "suicides" of 700 people? Many of them had been physically forced to drink the poison (including 300 children), and about a dozen escaped because they wanted to live...
As for those who say this is "normal" result of living in a deluded environment, I suggest that those doing the brainwashing -- i.e. the radical mullahs paid by Saudi "charities" and those radio/tv stations run by Iran, Egypt, and the Palestinian authority, show that the decision to make such hateful propaganda of the vulnerable is indeed "logical" and an act of war....
I'm sorry, I just could not become a suicide bomber under any circumstances, no matter what any "expert" says.
"Sageman saw such a process in America in connection with the massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado. There, the two boys who killed others and themselves got their inspiration from a wider group.
"The guys in Columbine, although they were two, they were very much connected to a whole community on the Internet," he said."
Those two idiots had been on ritalin; I think we're beginning to hear exactly what ritalin, prozac, etc., will do to young minds. And they were involved in satanic activity, although the MSM kept that quiet. Guns and violence were all the MSM wanted to talk about.
Regardless, it doesn't help to have a member of the House Foreign Relations Committee threatening to nuke Mecca.
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