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Inside the sect that loves terror
The Sunday Times ^ | August 07, 2005 | By the Insight team

Posted on 08/06/2005 8:07:48 PM PDT by ScuzzyTerminator

Inside the sect that loves terror

An undercover investigation has caught leaders of a radical Islamic group inciting young British Muslims to become terrorists and praising the Tube bombers as “the fantastic four”.

A Sunday Times reporter spent two months as a recruit inside the Saviour Sect to reveal for the first time how the extremist group promotes hatred of “non-believers” and encourages its followers to commit acts of violence including suicide bombings.

The reporter witnessed one of the sect’s leading figures, Sheikh Omar Brooks, telling a young audience, including children, that it was the duty of Muslims to be terrorists and boasting, just days before the July 7 attacks, that he wanted to die as a suicide bomber.

After the attacks that claimed 52 lives, another key figure, Zachariah, justified them by saying that the victims were not “innocent” people because they did not abide by strict Islamic laws. In the immediate aftermath the sect’s leader, Omar Bakri Mohammed, said: “For the past 48 hours I’m very happy.” Two weeks later he referred to the bombers as the “fantastic four”.

The evidence compiled by The Sunday Times in hours of transcripts and tapes will lend weight to moves, announced last week by Tony Blair, to proscribe such organisations for providing a breeding ground for would-be terrorists. The attorney-general’s office said last night it would investigate the recent comments by a number of Islamic radicals with a view to prosecution.

The Saviour Sect was established 10 months ago when its predecessor group Al-Muhajiroun was disbanded after coming under close scrutiny by the authorities. Its members meet in secret in halls, followers’ homes and parks. They are so opposed to the British state that they see it as their duty to make no economic contribution to the nation. One member warned our undercover reporter against getting a job because it would be contributing to the kuffar (non-Muslim) system.

Instead, the young follower, Nasser, who receives £44 job seekers’ allowance a week, said it was permissible to “live off benefits”, just as the prophet Mohammed had lived off the state while attacking it at the same time. Even paying car insurance was seen as supporting the system. “All the (Saviour Sect) brothers drive without insurance,” he said.

The reporter became a member of the sect three weeks before the July 7 bombings. From the start he was taught that it was his duty to destroy the kuffar. Moderate Muslims who did not believe in the overthrow of the British government and its replacement by an Islamic state were held in equal disdain.

Within days of joining, he witnessed seven Saviour Sect members beating up a member of the moderate Young Muslim Organisation in an East End street because they believed he had insulted their version of Islam.

Last week Omar Brooks stirred controversy with televised comments, but they were carefully chosen to avoid appearing to incite violence. On Saturday, July 2 he had been more forthright.

Speaking to a group of teenagers and families, he declared it was imperative for Muslims to “instil terror into the hearts of the kuffar” and added: “I am a terrorist. As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist.”

The 30-year-old, who claims to have had military training in Pakistan, said he did not want to go to Allah while sleeping in his bed “like an old woman”. Instead: “I want to be blown into pieces with my hands in one place and my feet in another.”

In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: “Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

Yesterday Bakri said he had no connections to a group in east London but said that he did attend prayers and preach to up to 15 people. He denied using the words “fantastic four”.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clashofcivilizations; londonattacked; radicalmuslims; savioursect; taqiyya; ukmuslims
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1 posted on 08/06/2005 8:07:48 PM PDT by ScuzzyTerminator
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To: ScuzzyTerminator

The only good Muslim radical, is a dead Muslim radical.


2 posted on 08/06/2005 8:09:51 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth to a Liberal, is like a crucifix to a vampire))))
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To: ScuzzyTerminator
Speaking to a group of teenagers and families, he declared it was imperative for Muslims to “instil terror into the hearts of the kuffar” and added: “I am a terrorist. As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist.”

I didn't say it.

4 posted on 08/06/2005 8:16:48 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("Liberty is not a suicide pact."--Fouad Ajami)
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To: ScuzzyTerminator
These Sheiks are just tellin it like it is...

The most pure form of Islam right from the source
Mecca and Medina the Koran taught to them in Arabic..as it is supposed to be..

If you dont go after the source of any pestilence it will simply continue to breed and spread...

By not going after the source we demonstrate a lack of real
commitment to end terrorism.

imo
5 posted on 08/06/2005 8:19:40 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: joesnuffy

Call vector control to rid us of these vermin!


6 posted on 08/06/2005 8:21:32 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Little Green Footballs is also linking to this article. Hopefully, this will propogate throughout the blogosphere and raise people's awareness levels. However, it is a given that the mainstream media, for the most part, won't touch these stories. I applaud the journalists who did this REAL journalism instead of investigated Roberts adopted children or Blair's makeup bills. Why has there not been any similar exposes of American extremist mosques? Or Canadian? Or...


7 posted on 08/06/2005 8:26:29 PM PDT by canadianally
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To: canadianally
Why has there not been any similar exposes of American extremist mosques? Or Canadian?

PC uber alles!

8 posted on 08/06/2005 8:29:39 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ScuzzyTerminator

"Sheikh Omar Brooks"

Brooks, eh?

Well, we've got a Hooper and a Walker and a Padilla.


9 posted on 08/06/2005 8:29:39 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

"we've got a Hooper and a Walker and a Padilla."

Diversity is our strength!


10 posted on 08/06/2005 8:31:05 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: ScuzzyTerminator
A Sunday Times reporter spent two months as a recruit inside the Saviour Sect to reveal for the first time how the extremist group promotes hatred of "non-believers" and encourages its followers to commit acts of violence including suicide bombings.

I don't believe this for one minute. This reporter is just another Jason Blair.

Everybody knows Islam is a religion of peace.

11 posted on 08/06/2005 8:43:05 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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I believe it was Mohammid also said it was good to lie to and deceive the non believers.. to gain their trust so you can kill them in the night while they sleep.

Not sure of the exact wording but I am pretty sure it was something like that. I don't want to go back and read up on that... just makes me mad.
12 posted on 08/06/2005 9:06:11 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: ncountylee

Vector control?

Hmmmmmmmmm. Thank God for the right to bear arms.

'Nuff said.


13 posted on 08/06/2005 9:30:57 PM PDT by msf92497 (My brain is "twitchy")
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To: canadianally
"Why has there not been any similar exposes of American extremist mosques? Or Canadian? Or..."

One of the best books ever: Terrorist Hunter : The Extraordinary Story of a Woman Who Went Undercover to Infiltrate the Radical Islamic Groups Operating in America. By Anonymous

14 posted on 08/06/2005 9:56:29 PM PDT by There's millions of'em (Please give the mic to Terayza...)
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To: ScuzzyTerminator
Nasser, who receives £44 job seekers’ allowance a week, said it was permissible to “live off benefits”, just as the prophet Mohammed had lived off the state while attacking it at the same time.

There ya go...

"Thou shalt be a vile leech just in the same manner as the prophet" Kay-surah, surah .

15 posted on 08/06/2005 10:00:13 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: JohnathanRGalt; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; All

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16 posted on 08/06/2005 10:01:35 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: ScuzzyTerminator

Ah, the religion of peace.


17 posted on 08/06/2005 10:26:23 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: JSteff

I have nice carpet for you, come you see, look,look, feel de quality.....


18 posted on 08/06/2005 10:47:09 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: canadianally
However, it is a given that the mainstream media, for the most part, won't touch these stories. I applaud the journalists who did this REAL journalism instead of investigated Roberts adopted children or Blair's makeup bills.

Indeed, the reporter who went undercover deserves a medal. Not to mention a big raise.

But, while we accept that The London Times has such reporters, don't we all scoff at the notion that a New York Times reporter would undertake such an assignment?

As they have demonstrated in Iraq, the MSM is far more likely to join forces with the terrorists than they are to subvert them.

That's the unvarnished truth, too, isn't it? (addressed to any MSM lurkers out there).

19 posted on 08/06/2005 11:05:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: ScuzzyTerminator
Glad to see the gang of hate mongers are fessing up to their real intentions (killing or enslaving all non-muslims) for a change .

They must be feeling their oats.

20 posted on 08/06/2005 11:06:50 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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