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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 13
Various News Outlets | 8/7/05

Posted on 08/07/2005 5:22:31 PM PDT by TexKat

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To: Parzival

For the most time, I lurk. Nothing wrong with that.
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Absolutely! And you were very good at lurking.


121 posted on 08/07/2005 9:46:08 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: bonfire

It is interesting to watch. I can't figure out why someone on the receiving end of PVDS's corruption isn't talking more about it. There have to be people off the island that could tell stories.....why aren't we hearing them?


122 posted on 08/07/2005 9:50:35 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: bonfire

I think it's more than just having balls.
They've got to have some tremendous power behind them.
As Mark Furhman said, even OJ only had 6 attorneys.


123 posted on 08/07/2005 9:50:51 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

> Parzival,
> Are you new on this thread?

I lurk for the most part on FR. However, I have been following these threads for about a week now.


> I was not in Aruba that night with Natalee or you either.
> All eighteen year old girls morals, are not reflected in
> your random sample hypothesis.

But statistically it is not unlikely that she was sexually active. And that is my whole point.

> I am a sporting and betting man. I will truthfully say and
> bet Natalee was a young lady of high morals, integrity and
> character above reproach.

You don't know her. I don't know her. On what do you base your certainty? On Beth Twitty? A real unbiased source there.

> I would suggest, if this incident had been about
> consensual sex between Urine and Natalee.

That is very hateful and not at all conducive to a reasonable dialogue.

> Well Natalee would still be here with us.

Not necessarily. A lot depends on what exactly went on that night.

> These concocted lies that these three pieces of human
> excretement have constantly purported,reek of rape and
> murder to the tenth degree.

Your choice of words does not fit the seruiousness of this discussion.

> I call to mind the size of Deepak's small automobile, the
> compostion of Urine's extremely large frame. Now do you
> honestly think a girl of Natalee's upbringing would be
> engaging in consensual sex in the back seat of a thimble?

It was my understanding that they did the deed on the beach. be that as it may, is it your position that girls of Natalee's upbringing only do it on back seats of Mercedeses and Cadillacs?

> I would whole heartedly say a forced rape/murder occurred
> in that back seat, but not consensual sex by any means.

Because it was a small car? ROFL!

> You have a right to your opinion in this travesty of
> justice and possible rape homicide.

Possible yes.

> This thread is Pro-Natalee Holloway and 99%-100% I do not
> appreciate any slams against our missing/murdered
> daughter.

Nobody is slamming her. I am just exploring possibilities. And the possibility that a young adult engaged in sexual activities while on vacation is hardly scandalous in this day and age.
And what about "daughter"? Do you happen to be related to her?

> I hope you understand my point in this matter. I ask you
> to get on board, The Good Ship "we support Natalee."

I support Natalee. I hope she is found alive. I hope that as far as any crimes have been comitted the guilty parties are convicted and punished. If there has been dereliction of duty on part of Aruban LE they likewise should be help accountable.
But I will not crucify people without evidence or assume some unrealistic Victorian notions of purity or engage in sophomoric puns.

> To put this politely, either you are with us or against on
> this tragic event that has befallen one of our American
> Daughters.

Now you are getting rediculous.


124 posted on 08/07/2005 9:57:57 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: RGVTx

> Absolutely! And you were very good at lurking.

And if I hadn't received so many negative replies I'd be back in the lurk mode. But now I am forced to defend my position which is getting tiring.


125 posted on 08/07/2005 9:59:22 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: RGVTx

LOL

I enthusiastically agree!


126 posted on 08/07/2005 10:01:52 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Parzival
I'd be back in the lurk mode.

Don't stay on our account....

127 posted on 08/07/2005 10:02:27 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Parzival
Interesting. But it is definitely my observation that people can and do act "wilder" on vacation than in regular life. College girls certainly do not act the same in Cancun as they do on the Texas A&M campus, that's for sure.

It sounds as if your knowledge comes from the video "College Girls on Spring Break."
128 posted on 08/07/2005 10:05:16 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

> It sounds as if your knowledge comes from the video "College
> Girls on Spring Break."

Wrong. But you know that it is true what I say. You are just denying it because it does not fit your conclusions.


129 posted on 08/07/2005 10:08:43 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: Parzival

I will gladly make this my last post to you and relieve you of your tiresome task of responding further.

Adios


130 posted on 08/07/2005 10:08:53 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Parzival

Oh, I get it!

Girls that go to Texas A&M don't have sex on campus. They go to Cancun for that. I never knew that!

But your logic is flawed. Alas, Natalee didn't go to A&M and she went to Aruba, not Cancun. In fact, she wasn't even in college! Do try and stick to facts of this case.

TIA


131 posted on 08/07/2005 10:12:12 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Parzival
CRAAAAACK!!!!

It was my understanding that they did the deed on the beach. be that as it may, is it your position that girls of Natalee's upbringing only do it on back seats of Mercedeses(sic) and Cadillacs?

Where did you get this information? Source Please.

TAW

You gotta love the sound of a M-40 A3 at midnight.

132 posted on 08/07/2005 10:13:40 PM PDT by Malichi (We All Have To Settle Our Accounts Someday)
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To: Jrabbit

For those that missed it earlier, Beth is on Fox this hour.


133 posted on 08/07/2005 10:14:25 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Jrabbit

> Girls that go to Texas A&M don't have sex on campus. They go
> to Cancun for that. I never knew that!

Did I say that? No. So stop knocking down strawmen you build.

> But your logic is flawed. Alas, Natalee didn't go to A&M and
> she went to Aruba, not Cancun. In fact, she wasn't even in
> college! Do try and stick to facts of this case.

It was an example. The fact is taht poeple act differently at home and on vacation. High school age, college age, or working adults does not matter.


134 posted on 08/07/2005 10:16:34 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: Jrabbit

" I enthusiastically agree!"

Me too~~!! :)


135 posted on 08/07/2005 10:17:54 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Malichi

> Where did you get this information? Source Please.

Hearf it on Fox News adn CNN when they were talking about that. Obviously it was in the early stages of the case.

In any case it is logical. If the car is too small go to the beach. They wouldn't be the first or the last.


136 posted on 08/07/2005 10:18:33 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: RGVTx

Thank you. Now I only have to respond to 9 people rather than 10.


137 posted on 08/07/2005 10:19:28 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: Pepper777; justche; All

Found a very interesting link. Here's a portion of the story. There is more at the link. http://kevinsmithshow.com/archives/2005/08/entry_41.html


Tuesday, August 02, 2005
Remember the Face of Aruba
The face of Joran van der Sloot is a face to remember. It is the face of privilege. It is the face of the elite. It is the face of assured protection from personal responsibility. It is the face of a liar. This is the face of police protection. This is the face of corruption. It is the face of Aruba.

Joran van der Sloot is 17 years of age. Although the legal gambling age in Aruba is 18, he has an open account at every casino on the island according to Beth Holloway-Twitty. But then again, his dad is one of the elite who gambles with Joran in the casino's from time to time.

Joran van der Sloot is so privileged and his dad so powerful that when Joran confessed that Natalee had been murdered and buried on the night she went missing, the police denied he had confessed and swept the entire matter under the carpet. Yet his signed confession (also signed by the four detectives present) has surfaced in the hands of the leading Aruban newspaper. The police were obviously trying to cover up this confession by denying it took place. They said it was just a misunderstanding because of language problems. Well, it was no misunderstanding. This 17 year old monster confessed according to Jossy Mansour, editor of the newspaper.

Since Mansour has obtained a copy of the Joran's signed confession, it is now absolutely clear that I called this investigation right. It has been a cover-up from the beginning. All the possible forces in Aruba have been marshaled to make certain Joran does not go to prison. No matter what he did to Natalee Holloway, he is simply not going to be allowed to go to prison.



138 posted on 08/07/2005 10:28:51 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Parzival
And if I hadn't received so many negative replies I'd be back in the lurk mode. But now I am forced to defend my position which is getting tiring.

When you twice refer to defending Joran from crucifixion what do you expect? The guy is running around until all hours drinking and gambling as an under-aged high school student. He has lied to authorities. And you decide to jump into the conversation to defend his honor because Natalee may have consented to sex?

139 posted on 08/07/2005 10:29:31 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: RGVTx

Thanks.....I was busy laughing at the lurker.


140 posted on 08/07/2005 10:29:47 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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