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NYP: BEHIND THE CASUALTIES - Coalition is on the offensive
New York Post ^ | August 8, 2005 | MACKUBIN T. OWENS

Posted on 08/08/2005 5:52:30 AM PDT by OESY

The recent spike in U.S. casualties in Iraq, although tragic, needs to be placed in strategic context. As usual, the press has not done so, focusing on the loss of life without any apparent effort to understand what the fighting that led to these casualties means.

But the answer is there for anyone who wishes to probe beneath the surface. In fact, the intense fighting indicates that Coalition forces have stepped up their campaign in Al Anbar province to destroy the insurgency by depriving it of its base in the Sunni Triangle and its "rat lines" — the infiltration routes that run from the Syrian border into the heart of Iraq.

One ratline follows the Euphrates River corridor — running from Syria to Husayba on the Syrian border and then through Qaim, Rawa, Haditha, Asad, Hit and Fallujah to Baghdad. The other follows the course of the Tigris — from the north through Mosul-Tel Afar to Tikrit and on to Baghdad.

The main difference between this operation, dubbed Operation Quick Strike, and Operations Matador and New Market earlier this year is that the ongoing action is substantially larger in both scope and magnitude, enabling the Coalition to apply force simultaneously against a number of insurgent strongholds.

The previous operations, although successful up to a point, nonetheless couldn't prevent the insurgents from abandoning one town and moving to another not threatened by allied forces.... Operation Quick Strike has substantially hindered the movement of insurgents on both sides of the river.

Brig. Gen. Carter Ham, commander of the multinational brigade conducting the operation, explained... that the additional forces that made it possible to conduct simultaneous operations of this magnitude were Iraqi security forces.... This is good news. It indicates that Iraqis are making progress in developing a competent army....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carterham; coalition; creightonabrams; hadithah; hamburgerhill; iraq; kennedy; marines; military; newmarket; oif; operationsmatador; quickstrike; ratline; rawah; vietnam
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1 posted on 08/08/2005 5:52:31 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY
You mean there's more to the Iraq story than just American GI's getting killed?

Who knew?

/frustrated sarcasm

2 posted on 08/08/2005 6:02:20 AM PDT by andyandval
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To: OESY
But wait a minute, the long-term strategic situation and its impact on US national security can't be important because ABC/CBS news ignores it. They only report on the US and Iraqi casualties that happened today and that's all that matters to them.

(The funny thing is, though, ABC/CBS news never get upset about the 3,500 Americans who die in traffic accidents every month, and there's more we could do to prevent those casualties.)

3 posted on 08/08/2005 6:02:52 AM PDT by carl in alaska (The funny thing is....I don't remember telling you about my amnesia.)
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To: OESY

Only Fox News has talked about the recovered letter from a guy who had gone into Iraq thinking he was helping the people there save themselves from the Americans, only to find that the Iraqis did not want him. He said morale is very low. He said that the average time a terrorist survives after coming into Iraq is 3 days. Between the Iraqis turning them in, and the US/Iraqi forces chasing them down, it is not a fun place to be.

He also said he was lied to by those who sent him in from Syria. He is now spilling his guts to US military officials on who, what, where, and how they are coming into the country.

This is a HUGE intelligence win both for strategic and tactical information.


4 posted on 08/08/2005 6:04:48 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Paloma_55
"This is a HUGE intelligence win both for strategic and tactical information."

And that's just one intelligence win that the military decided to disclose to the public. I'm sure there's a nest of other captured terrorists who are singing like canaries. When the local people turn on the insurgents, the insurgents are in serious trouble.

5 posted on 08/08/2005 6:09:57 AM PDT by carl in alaska (The funny thing is....I don't remember telling you about my amnesia.)
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To: carl in alaska
But wait a minute, the long-term strategic situation and its impact on US national security can't be important because ABC/CBS news ignores it. They only report on the US and Iraqi casualties that happened today and that's all that matters to them.

That's a good point, but it also works in reverse -- and is the primary reason why I will never buy the NY Post again. If you pick up that newspaper on the day after a major incident in Iraq with large numbers of U.S. casualties (Fallujah in the spring of last year, the two incidents last week, etc.) you'll notice that they deliberately bury the story somewhere in the bowels of the paper. On the day after the U.S. lost 14 soldiers in Iraq, the headline story in the Post was something about Martha Stewart or a sex scandal involving a school teacher in New York.

6 posted on 08/08/2005 6:14:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: OESY
The military always does valuable in-depth studies after conflicts. We went into Iraq witrh a war plan contrsicted by the need to limit casualties, especially civilians...and therefore much of the problems we have now are because we didn't kill enough of them in the first weeks of the conflict... we thus allowed the Iraqi military and paramilitary to melt back into society...so the civilain casualties we "saved" then are being incurred, now, along with our troops, at probably 2-3 times the rate..
7 posted on 08/08/2005 6:18:08 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Alberta's Child

The NY Post doesn't need to report on US military casualties. They know we will hear plenty about casualties from the MSM.


8 posted on 08/08/2005 6:25:50 AM PDT by carl in alaska (The funny thing is....I don't remember telling you about my amnesia.)
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To: OESY
We can only hope that, unlike Sen. Kennedy and his ilk in 1975, the current Congress does not use U.S. casualties as an excuse for pulling the rug out from under an ally.

This is a good point. Especially after the 23 marines were killed last week, the public, egged on by the media and liberals are not willing to put up with it much longer I'm afraid. The media has convinced many that we may in fact be losing, and the WH is just not very good at communicating the good things that are happening and the sucess we indeed are having in Iraq. Now the politicians will get very nervous and the drumbeat will begin to have us abandon Iraq. It's time for the communication team at the WH to step up and take back control of the message.

9 posted on 08/08/2005 6:28:30 AM PDT by IrishGOP
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In addition, the Iraqi forces are getting priceless experience in fighting this war. They are out there under the tutilage of US forces, so they are learning how to do it right. When we leave, the Iraqi forces will be the most well trained, able Arab forces in the world.


10 posted on 08/08/2005 6:30:14 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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To: OESY; Dog; Angelus Errare; section9; Prodigal Son; Cap Huff; Boot Hill; HAL9000; areafiftyone; ...

May our armed forces be successful in their mission, and may they have the strength to overcome the media's incessant efforts to lower their morale.


11 posted on 08/08/2005 6:34:08 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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what's funny is how the NY Post tells the complete story yet the paper is looked down upon by elitist sc^m....


12 posted on 08/08/2005 6:35:55 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Alberta's Child

That may be, but I will take the New York Post over the Times any day. The New York Times is to the democratic party what Al-Jazzera is to terrorists!


13 posted on 08/08/2005 6:37:55 AM PDT by wingsof liberty (Marines - the few, the proud, the best!!)
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To: carl in alaska
A propaganda rag is a propaganda rag, regardless of which end of the political spectrum it represents.

It's bad enough for the Post to deliberately bury news stories on major events in Iraq, but I find it utterly disgraceful for a so-called "conservative" media outlet to bury those stories and replace them with some sh!t story about @ssholes like Martha Stewart and Michael Jackson.

14 posted on 08/08/2005 6:48:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Alberta's Child

What can I say? It's a New York paper. I'm really not that familiar with the Post. I read the Washington Times online but only a few NY Post articles here at FR.


15 posted on 08/08/2005 6:54:12 AM PDT by carl in alaska (The funny thing is....I don't remember telling you about my amnesia.)
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To: McGavin999
In addition, the Iraqi forces are getting priceless experience in fighting this war. They are out there under the tutilage of US forces, so they are learning how to do it right. When we leave, the Iraqi forces will be the most well trained, able Arab forces in the world.

Yes, we're teaching them the "Western way of war." In the long run, that may come back to haunt us. However, in the short run I see no alternative.

16 posted on 08/08/2005 7:16:03 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: wingsof liberty

I posted this before but it is worth a reposting.

The NY Post which is a right wing leaning paper in the same city as the sinking NY Times has shown dramatic growth

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/51420.htm

RUPERT MURDOCH TO BE POST PUBLISHER
August 3, 2005

Excerpt:

The Post's circulation has shown extraordinary growth in the past five years, rising 57 percent from the six-month period ending in March 2000 to the six-month period ending in March 2005.

The paper currently sells 678,105 copies daily, Monday through Friday, according to the March publisher's statement from the Audit Bureau of Circulations.

During the five-year period, the paper experienced five consecutive six-month periods of double-digit circulation growth.


17 posted on 08/08/2005 7:40:56 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: OESY

And .. I believe Rumsfeld already told the media some months ago that we were EXPECTING an increase in violence the closer Iraq got to putting their constitution in place. Looks like Rumsfeld was right - again!


18 posted on 08/08/2005 7:54:05 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: JoeFromSidney
Yes, we're teaching them the "Western way of war."

We're not teaching them everything, we're just teaching them enough to be the best ARAB troops. They were already feared as the best in the Arab world, now they are an all volunteer force (something no despotic country will ever have in sufficient numbers).

19 posted on 08/08/2005 8:06:30 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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To: OESY

I agree with Owens, but his article is an implicit condemnation of the terrible job the Pentagon and administration are doing in educating and informing the American people. Providing us with some broad understanding of what is going on in Iraq would not compromise operational security. The terrorists who are under attack are pretty much aware of the fact. The usual reporting that focuses only on US casualties suggests that the terrorists have the initiative. They clearly are taking the initiative in some ways, but we are in others, and this deserves emphasis. Indeed, I believe most Americans would be more supportive of the effort if it is emphasized that offensive operations are necessary to reduce the enemy's future ability to impose his will. Right now, it too often appears that American blood is being shed for no strategic purpose. We can only lose in Iraq if our will falters. The terrorists know this too--it animates every aspect of their strategy and tactics. To sustain the citizenry's will it is necessary to help them understand what is happening on the ground and how that relates to a broader strategy.


20 posted on 08/08/2005 8:37:54 AM PDT by financeprof
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