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Kilgore backs detention of illegal aliens - denounces funding for immigrant day laborer centers
TimesDispatch ^

Posted on 08/08/2005 12:20:00 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

RICHMOND, Va. - Republican gubernatorial candidate Jerry Kilgore on Monday denounced public funding for immigrant day laborer centers and supported a proposal to give police authority to indefinitely detain arrested illegal immigrants and turn them over to federal immigration authorities.

"To use taxpayer dollars to make employment of those who are here illegally is to further encourage that illegal behavior," Kilgore said.

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To: InsureAmerica; Dane; bayourod

#18 - FYI


21 posted on 08/08/2005 12:35:11 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
The following is an excerpt from The Limbaugh Letter. I transcribed it off the press. Rush interviews Pat Buchanan:

Rush: Let me go back to immigration. We know where we're headed. What needs to be done right now to stop this?

Buchanan: Three things. One, put a security fence along all the major crossing points at the border and use the National Guard in the other areas if necessary. Two, begin to enforce the employer sanctions against companies that chronically hire illegals. Three, expel every illegal alien who has been convicted of a misdemeanor or a felony. In addition, pass an immigration law which is generous, but which cuts us back to more reasonable levels of immigration and holds to that moratorium for about five years. It can done. But the hour's getting very late for preserving the unity of this country.

Rush: And, if we fail?

B: If you fail, you lose the country.

R: That's apocalyptic. Define that. What's losing the country?

B: If you get an overwhelming majority of Hispanics in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas these are decisive electoral votes. If those constituencies say, "We want an open border forever", I think we lose the country.

R: You're talking about illegals who end up voting.

B: No, all the children of these illegals are legal citizens. Eventually you could have a de facto loss of the American Southwest to Mexico.

R: I can't go to California without this becoming subject one, two and three.

B: Rush, every talk show I do it's No. 1. People cannot understand why the President will not enforce the immigration laws of the United States. If this were Clinton we'd impeach him.

R: I've gotten calls on my program from people in agribusiness who say, "If you roll back illegal immigration, be prepared for food prices to go up."

B: Tell them, "I'm prepared."

R: I said, "I'm already paying high taxes to support the social welfare programs for these illegals, who have access to the health care system, unemployment, and so on. It's already costing us." But that told me the problem is between two constituencies - the corporate contributors, who like cheap labor; and the average voter, who does not like it at all. That's the conflict.

B: It is. Again, go all the way back to the 50's even all the way back to the Civil War, and the great Republican era from 1860 to 1932. The interests of big business and manufacturing and of the workers used to be the same: "Look, we've got the greatest market in the world, we want the highest standard of living for our workers." As old Henry ford said, "I want my workers to be able to buy the cars they build." Both sides had tremendous interest in basically protecting the American market, in term of Americans having priority entry to it. Now, however, big business has moved so much of its manufacturing and production abroad that it has become the leading lobbyist for keeping the U.S. market open for dumping of foreign goods, bringing in foreign workers and the rest. So the interests of big business and workers - both of which were once Republican constituents - are now in conflict.

22 posted on 08/08/2005 12:35:19 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: Happy2BMe

I meant to include that he issued that opinion with he was Attorney General.


23 posted on 08/08/2005 12:36:17 PM PDT by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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Compare this rational train of reasoning of Mr. Kilgore to the events smoldering in nearby Montgomery County, Maryland where its council chairman enacted legislation recognizing Mexican I.D.s of illegal immigrants so the can receive county benefits at taxpayer's expense. That council chairman, Duncan, now wants to run for the governor of Maryland so he can enact his treasonous illegal immigrant measures statewide. And the people of that state will probably elect him. Dumb just gets dumber.
24 posted on 08/08/2005 12:36:19 PM PDT by w13gav
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To: Happy2BMe
Potts = adoption by Gay parents
Kilgore = arrested illegal immigrants
It really isn't much of a choice is it.
STOPPOTTSNOW
25 posted on 08/08/2005 12:37:39 PM PDT by kublia khan (absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Happy2BMe

Gate City Kilgore BUMP. He hasn't been in Richmond long enough to know political elites aren't supposed to speak this way. He still thinks he's an ordinary citizen, not a media whore. Pretty refreshing, isn't it?


26 posted on 08/08/2005 12:39:01 PM PDT by reelfoot
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To: raybbr
Thanks for that. Common sense is common sense. Some have it, many don't.

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Rush: And, if we fail?

B: If you fail, you lose the country.

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BRACE YOURSELF - MEXICO SEEKS PROTECTION FOR 'RIGHTS' OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

(CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINK - BRACE YOURSELF)

27 posted on 08/08/2005 12:39:43 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: iceskater

"He also issued an opinion to the state colleges and universities that illegal aliens should not pay in-state tuition rates. He took a lot of heat on that one too."
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He took heat from the Lib press and the "immigrant" activists. We'll see what the voters can generate soon enough.


28 posted on 08/08/2005 12:39:55 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

And the liberal university administrations....


29 posted on 08/08/2005 12:42:20 PM PDT by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: EagleUSA
Oh my God...there really is a true Republican conservative left?? He better get some bodyguards...wow, just possibly a real American for a change...pinch me, I must be dreaming.

There are a lot of us here in VA. Future president George Allen ('08), ranks right up there too.

30 posted on 08/08/2005 12:42:52 PM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: InsureAmerica; Happy2BMe
""will Kilgore be castigated and ostracized the same manner that Tancredo has been for his stand against illegal alien immigration?""

NO, Kilgore doesn't harbor the grandstanding and backstabbing meglomania tancredo does.

31 posted on 08/08/2005 12:44:51 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Happy2BMe

The reason these kinds of sites are being considered is due to citizen (taxpayer) complaints.

Unions are against them because they take work away from members ($20-$50/hr) and steer them toward the day laborers ($7-$15/hr).

Hmmm. I wonder how much effect the day laborers have had on the decline of union membership and power.


32 posted on 08/08/2005 12:45:44 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

""The reason these kinds of sites are being considered is due to citizen (taxpayer) complaints""

The reason they are being considered is because we have a bunch of do nothing spineless representatives in office who are afraid of their own shadow. So, they sit around all day thinking how they can appear to be doing a great job, while in reality not doing anything at all until pension time, or until they have stripped enough wealth from everyone that they don't need it anymore....


33 posted on 08/08/2005 12:52:28 PM PDT by InsureAmerica (the only free cheese is in a mousetrap)
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To: Happy2BMe

"Wonder . . will Kilgore be castigated and ostracized the same manner that Tancredo has been for his stand against illegal alien immigration?"

Certainly he will, if his views become widely enough known. Like Tancredo, Rove will probably tell him he's not welcome at "our house" (i.e., the White House).


34 posted on 08/08/2005 12:53:59 PM PDT by reelfoot
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To: Dane

Tell us more of what you know about Rep. Jerry Kilgore.


35 posted on 08/08/2005 12:58:05 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: sinanju
V Illegal immigration is the grassroots issue of this decade and if only other Republicans figured it out and acted on it we would all be better off.

The ones that haven't figured it out are not condervatives, they may be republicans but they are not for freedom in this country. I truly believe this will come down to a shooting war between the Illegal faction and the people who want to uphold the law. It is getting serious here folks. Our constitution is under attack from so many angles it is getting to the point where many people( not me, I am too old to even walk let alone fight) will take up arms SOON.

We must stop this legally before it gets to that point!

36 posted on 08/08/2005 1:06:34 PM PDT by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Jerry Kilgore is the man ~ Bump!


37 posted on 08/08/2005 1:07:14 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Tell us more of what you know about Rep. Jerry Kilgore

It's obvious you don't much about Jerry Kilgore since he is the Viriginia Attorney General, and not a House member.

38 posted on 08/08/2005 1:10:26 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: iceskater

Please add me to your Kilgore ping list - or ping list for anything against catering to illegals in VA?

Thanks.


39 posted on 08/08/2005 1:11:01 PM PDT by TruthNtegrity (Attempting to counter Leftist-Professor brainwashing, one telephone call at a time.)
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To: InsureAmerica
The reason they are being considered is because we have a bunch of do nothing spineless representatives in office who are afraid of their own shadow

No, it is worse than that. They know what they are doing, including President Bush, I hate to say it but it is true. We are faced with lobbies that push cheap labor ( read slave labor) for some businesses at the expense of the rest of America.

If we want to open our borders why not repeal all the laws of immigration? The reason is because they know the people wouldn't stand for it. The majority want the flow of illegals stopped and it would be easy. Don't let any politician or Illegal Immigrant activists tell you otherwise. Controlling our border is as simple as prosecuting all those who hire ILLEGALS. That would do it, plus enforcing the fine for coming here illegally. It needs to be rasied to an exorbitant amount and ENFORCED.

Is it too much to ask our government to enforce the law?

40 posted on 08/08/2005 1:11:59 PM PDT by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go!)
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