Conservative Congress Votes to Steal More Property

Thomas.loc.gov ^ | 08/08/05 | Sweetjustusnow

[Sweetjustusnow]

Senate Bill 54 is: "To amend the National Trails System Act to require the Secretary of the Interior to update the feasibility and suitability studies of four national historic trails, and for other purposes". Senate Bill 54 you can thank the Oregon California Trails Association (OCTA) for. They are the self proclaimed "Foot Soldiers for the NPS".

In other words they are on the march to suck up more private property and have given their approval to the National Park Service to expand their empire through the stealing of private property.

As for "National Heritage", Miriam-Webster definition of "Heritage" is: "property that descends to an heir: legacy: birthright" and "legacy" means "inheritance". My family has a heritage and legacy. How about you? Individual liberty is no more. It's all about the "common interest". Now what does that sound like? Communism? But of course.

Until people understand Agenda 21 and rise up to take their Government back from the despots who have stolen our country, all the debate over who is better Democrats or Republicans is nothing short of a farce, as there is no difference. They are all on the same page. They have sold out the American people to the highest bidder, special interest groups and those who wish to impliment a "one world government".

I hope people wake up to the fact that this country has long ago ceased to be a "Representative Republic", let alone a democracy.

[Brilliant]

They aren't stealing it. They are going to compensate the owners. They're stealing the money to pay the compensation.

[OpusatFR]

Guess who sent a nice letter asking for money today?

None other than my Congessman, Randy Forbes who voted "Yes" to CAFTA.

Now, does he really really think that after I called his office and said, "Please vote no," that I would send him a nice fat check.

FAT CHANCE.

I'll vote Libertarian, Green, or Constitution. I've had it with both major parties.

[Sweetjustusnow]

What will they compensate my family for? Our own legacy, heritage and birthright?

What is the price for loss of liberty?

[DownInFlames]

Yep, I'm in the same boat. Lost my job twice since 2003 to India and am now going to drive a big rig over-the-road.

[cripplecreek]

I sent my congressman a letter telling him that my money was sent to Candice Miller in the hopes that she runs against Debbie Stabenow for the senate.

[Izzy Dunne]

They aren't stealing it. They are going to compensate the owners.

When you go out to your driveway tomorrow morning, and find your car gone, but a bag containing $1500 in its place, with a note saying "The Blue Book value on your car was $1500", are you going to say "I was ripped off!" or ar you going to say "I was compensated!"

[OpusatFR]

Ouch!

Great Idea, LOL!

[cripplecreek]

"going to drive a big rig over-the-road."


That's a job that's fast becoming one of those "jobs that Americans won't do."

[XRdsRev]

National Heritage Areas are not allowed by law to use Federal money they receive for land purchases. Some NHA's don't even own any land. The NHA's are overseen and administered by PRIVATE organizations made up boards of directors to which any private citizen can apply for consideration to become a board member.

The only way a National Heritage Area can buy land is to raise the money itself or they can use a state program if applicable to get money (just like any municipality or non-profit can).

The whole concept of National Heritage Areas is so as not to create new National parks but instead to help related privately owned and publicly owned sites to come together and tell their story in a coherent way and to pool resources so they can spend their money and plan their interpretation etc. in a cohesive and economical way.

Every proposed National Heritage Area goes through a process of public input long before it ever gets to a vote at the Federal level. Pro and con forces have time to say their piece and contact their legislators to support or oppose any proposed area. Usually there are a series of public meetings at which time anyone can speak about what they want or don't want from a NHA. All Federal funding and designations only last for 10 years and then have to be resubmitted for approval which is a difficult and time consuming process.

[liberty2004]

When you go out to your driveway tomorrow morning, and find your car gone, but a bag containing $1500 in its place, with a note saying "The Blue Book value on your car was $1500", are you going to say "I was ripped off!" or ar you going to say "I was compensated!"

excellent analogy. That makes the point very clear. Freepers are the best at presenting ideas in very clear terms.

[Sweetjustusnow]

Oh wake up. Your post is so absurd. Take a little lesson from the past history of these two faced, swindlers. You can start here; http://www.prfamerica.org/
http://www.americanpolicy.org/prop/main.htm (See: More Articles at the bottom of the APC site).
http://www.castlecoalition.org/
http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/nationalpsfrms.htm
"The proposed National Mormon Pioneer Heritage Area Act would appoint an arts, tourism, and preservation organization, the Utah Heritage Highway 89 Alliance, as the "managing entity" of the area. Their plan for managing the area's natural and cultural resources would be subject to the approval of the U.S. Secretary of the Interior.

The Alliance would receive $10 million in matching federal money for tourism promotion, "heritage" businesses, and preservation. Critics are concerned that the bill gives unilateral federal authority to a private group for managing public funds and resources. They are also concerned about federal control of economic policy and possible property rights infringements".

(Duh....ya think)?

Clauses in the bill prevent the Alliance from legislating on property rights or purchasing property, but property rights advocates claim that federal and matching money, government or non-government, will come with strings attached to zoning and land use regulation. Heritage area proponents boost the legislation as economic development, but critics point to negative social and economic impacts of government-sponsored tourism programs in other parts of the West".

One of the quickest ways to 'connect the dots' is to visit http://www.Google.com and search the official government websites. There's no need to look for 'conspiracy theories' when a look directly into the horse's mouth will tell the true story.
Unless you believe that that the Trojan horse at the gates is nothing more than a large kid's toy.

Then take a look at the abundance of grassroots organizations that are trying to stop these infringements from OCTA and others. They get their hearings alright, but their voices are ignored. They also have more citizens voicing objection than the stinking organizations that wish to steal others property for their own purposes.
That so called " pubic input" you refer to by citizens is a bald faced lie. The only input is from special interest groups such as OCTA. They go on to posted private property with out the land owners permission. The land owner is kept in the dark if at all possible. Why do you think that is?
If you care to find out more about their doings read the stories at the APC site under Property Rights. My own story is there as well.

All the feel good rhetoric doesn't white wash the history of the NPS and their "foot soldiers".

Take a look at the map on this site of the property that is already in the hands of the US Government.
http://www.freedom21.org/alternative-2/chapter2.htm

One other thing, there is a segment of people in this country who are in top positions of power that worship the dead instead of honoring the living. I'll leave it to you to guess who they are. Sound intriguing? I hope so.

[k2blader]

You just don't get it, do you.

[mugs99]

They aren't stealing it. They are going to compensate the owners. They're stealing the money to pay the compensation

They don't compensate. They don't even take your land. In the last big grab they gave us the Wild and Scenic Act. The "Trails" con will be the same. If your property falls within the boundary they draw, you are SOL. You can never improve or develope your property. If you want to remove that dead cedar that is leaning over your house, you must obtain a permit, including environmental impact statement. Notices have to be posted and all neighbors notified by registered mail. If anyone objects, even the guy who lives in Wasington DC and has never visited the land he owns, you will have to go to court. If your house burns, you will not be able to get a permit to rebuild. Homebuilding is not allowed in Scenic or Trail areas or anywhere within 150 feet of a stream. Your homeowners insurance will skyrocket. You are now in a primitive area with sub standard fire and police protection.

In the end, people leave and the government takes their land for unpaid taxes.
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[cajun-jack]

save your money and invest wisely...a mexican will have that job within 3 years!!!

[XRdsRev]

Please you are getting hysterical.

Since I sit on the Board of Directors of a proposed National Heritage Area, I think I know far better than you what they can and cannot legally do.

We absolutely cannot use our Federal operating funds to purchase real property (land). It is against the law for us to do so. We can recieve up to $10,000,000 in Federal money ($1,000,000 per year for 10 years) but it is not guaranteed that we get that amount and we are only allowed to use that money for explicit purposes (which again do not include buying land). We can use the money to develop a management plan for the area (which is a fancy way of determing how to best tell the story and get the public interested in the story), interpretation, basic staff salaries (no board members receive any compensation), signage, brochures and publishing, tourism and business outreach, education programs for schools, grants to historic sites etc. etc. We are also responsible for raising additional funds for the Heritage Area.

Yes we are a private not for profit managing entity. None of us work for the National Park Service and we cannot do so. The Board is made up of various persons who are interested in the project including BUSINESS PEOPLE and PRIVATE LANDOWNERS. We all work for free and give up large amounts of our valuable time because we believe in what we do.

I have to crack up at people like you. You pull some stuff off of a whackjob website that is total hysterical BS and you start screaming like chicken little. You and I can agree or disagree about the propriety and value of National Heritage Areas but arguing that they are a UN plot to take over the world is laughable.

My propsed Heritage Area was the brainchild of a Republican Congressman and one of the Nation's oldest patriotic organizations. It is hardly a liberal endeavor although we do have liberals who also support what we are trying to do and some who don't.

P.S. - I am not some liberal plant or a newbie to this site, nor do I work for Greenpeace or Kofi Annan. I am a guy who believes in what our National Heritage Area is trying to do and I believe that we are going about it in a manner that is friendly to private property rights, good for private business and public/private preservation efforts.

Have a nice day.

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[Sweetjustusnow]

"Friendly to private property rights".....lmao

You have no right to anyone's private property. If I wanted my property listed as an historical site, I'd have filled out the proper paper work to do so.

"Hysterical" is always the term used by those who hope to shut the mouth of the private property owner.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

[Sweetjustusnow]

Gee, what is this? Why! It's the partners of the National Park Service, and lo and behold, I believe I see OCTA listed. http://www.nps.gov/nts/partners_nonprofits.html