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Handcuffs and stethoscopes
NY Times, via Neshoba Democrat ^ | July 27, 2005 | JOHN TIERNEY

Posted on 08/08/2005 11:15:30 PM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 08/09/2005 9:41:55 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The current zeal for sending doctors to jail for writing painkiller prescriptions may seem baffling, especially to the patients who relied on the doctors for pain relief. But if you consider it from the perspective of the agents raiding the doctors

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: drugs; oxycontin; wodlist
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1 posted on 08/08/2005 11:15:30 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem; TEXASPROUD; Cap'n Crunch; Larry Lucido; big ern; Horatio Gates

And really cool rides ......

http://www.copcar.com/month.htm


2 posted on 08/08/2005 11:17:21 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: neverdem
bfl
3 posted on 08/08/2005 11:18:45 PM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: Squantos

LOL!!!


4 posted on 08/08/2005 11:22:32 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Boundless

Ping to one that I had not yet posted.


5 posted on 08/08/2005 11:26:32 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Squantos
ROFLMAO.....check out the number on that car...

Car 54 where are you....

6 posted on 08/08/2005 11:29:47 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: neverdem
I can't blame most docs, they're trying to help their patients get better. Yes, there are some out there that are just making money off 'scripts, but I think it's a minority.

Hey, I was on Demerol pills for at least three months after a motorcycle accident that almost chopped off my arm.

I still have steel plates which set off airport metal detectors.

The doctor's nasty old nurse gave me a hard time every time I refilled my prescription, but I took myself off the stuff when I realized my brain was taking it, not my pain.

I might have more brain and will power than most, but it's a personal choice. I didn't want the drug to own me.

It helped me through rehab and I had 90% use of the arm, wrist, and hand again.

I'm not out robbing pharmacies looking for drugs.

7 posted on 08/08/2005 11:35:09 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: Squantos

LOL... They have a sense of humor, the black & white is car number 054.

Car 54 where are you???


8 posted on 08/09/2005 12:08:16 AM PDT by RJL
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To: Squantos
I was a chronic pain patient for almost 2 years. I can tell you that I saw seven different doctors until I found one who finally treated me with some rather stiff doses of opioid medications. 3 of the Doctors I saw told me they 'couldn't' prescribe adequate dosages of these medications because of 'pressure' from the DEA.

"I don't need the problems" is a pretty accurate nutshell of what I was told.

The Feds have absolutely no business getting between doctors and patients in terms of prescribing medications.

L

9 posted on 08/09/2005 12:56:22 AM PDT by Lurker (" Many are already stating that the decision in Kelo renders the contract null and void." I agree.)
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To: neverdem
Legalize Freedom. The drug war is unconstitutional.
10 posted on 08/09/2005 4:12:07 AM PDT by bvw
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To: neverdem

Recall that the US got along fine for 150 to 180 years without drug laws. Think Coca-Cola. In the 20s on could go down the the local drug store and buy morphine and cocaine. Yet, we were not a nation of addicts. Think about it.


11 posted on 08/09/2005 4:42:06 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Lurker

"The Feds have absolutely no business getting between doctors and patients in terms of prescribing medications."

Agreed, it's a complete disgrace.


12 posted on 08/09/2005 5:05:59 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: neverdem
Researchers have repeatedly found that very few patients taking opioids have a hard time stopping once their pain goes away. The ones who can’t stop — the compulsive addicts — are typically people with a history of abusing alcohol and other drugs.

I used to be a potato chip addict, until I decided to stop. Some people will always find something to abuse.

13 posted on 08/09/2005 5:15:03 AM PDT by auboy
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To: bvw
Legalize Freedom.

Wow...

What if parents don't want their adult children using drugs? ;-)

14 posted on 08/09/2005 6:23:42 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: bvw
Legalize Freedom.

That is a concept I could get behind. Unfortunately, freedom is a threat to the powers that be.

15 posted on 08/09/2005 7:11:41 AM PDT by zeugma (Democrats and muslims are varelse...)
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To: bvw
Legalize Freedom. The drug war is unconstitutional.

In principle I agree, but in practice, dismantling the welfare state is a prerequisite to this step. As things stand now, people who abuse drugs and end up unemployed, sick, and totally dysfunctional, are automatically entitled to have some of MY hard-earned money on the grounds that they "need" it. Until we're willing to leave addicts to their own devices, we need some drug laws (though not necessarily the ones we have now, nor the methods of enforcement we have now).

Once the welfare state is dismantled, there would still be a need for a few drug laws. E.g. controls on antibiotics so idiots don't create superbugs that endandge OTHER people. And controls on drugs which are prone to being abused by giving them to people without their knowledge, such as certain "date rape" drugs. Laws are needed to protect society, but shouldn't be used to protect individuals from their own stupidity.

16 posted on 08/09/2005 8:55:13 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Easy money is one big cause of wastrelism, sure. And easy money from the government can trap those poor prone to wastrelism in abject poverty.

Yet wastrels can be rich or poor. But not middle class. The middle class cannot afford to become wastrels - if caught up in it it is not long before it makes them poor. The cures for wastrelism in the poor come from therapies and therapists, social systems and techniques developed for the middle class. Something like physical therapy clinics found in shopping centers nationwide. The cures for the rich pretty much stay with the rich.

You will NOT have a real cures, individual therapies and social adaptations, for drug abuse from what are now the illegal drugs, the schedule 3s, cocaine and marijuana, UNTIL freedom is freed, until drugs are made legal -- maybe limited, maybe licensed, but legal to all adults upon demand and payment.

17 posted on 08/09/2005 9:39:22 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Finding "cures" is not the goal, IMO. What's important is to develop a culture where few people ever try this garbage, and where drunkenness and drug-induced stupors are not treated as a big joke. The easiest, cheapest way to do this, and ultimately save a lot of lives, is let the idiots who do try it and get addicted die without society spending money and other resources on them. People should get the loud and clear message that if they play Russian roulette with recreational drugs, no one will feel sorry for them and help them. Avoiding the disease is much more important than finding a cure.


18 posted on 08/09/2005 10:17:45 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

When I said "cure" in the above, I was generalizing that term. I included all the social taboos and social wisdoms that, to give a bunch of crazy yet apt examples, today stop people from eating dog meat, from drinking whiskey for breakfast, from setting great bonfires in the middle of the house for heat and cooking.


19 posted on 08/09/2005 11:00:47 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Lurker

Hell I just went dow to stock up on "over the counter" allergy meds for hayfever season and I have to tell ya I have purchased homes, firearms and automobiles faster than what it took to by 15 tablets of Corcidan (sp) D 24hr allergy tablets.

Once again we all pay the WOD tab for the criminals. I say give these little turdpolishers all the chemicals and dangerous drugs they want. When they OD and die or try an take my property to pay for their habit they die from lead poisoning then so be it.....we evolve as a society vs the BS we put up with.

Just my opinion of course..........:o)


20 posted on 08/09/2005 11:20:03 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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