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To: Crackingham

I have to dissent starting from the first sentence. Scientists haven't "discovered" examples of covergent evolution. They have "constructed" examples of covergent evolution.

I love a story that goes "first this had to happen, then this had to happen, then a final thing had to happen..., etc".

No evidence that it actually happened, of course.

Just a presupposition that because the frogs are there, and evolution is the only allowable explanation for it, then it must have happend by covergent evolution.

Sorry, not convincing.


12 posted on 08/09/2005 9:55:43 AM PDT by News Junkie
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To: News Junkie

I am assuming that you have an alternative explanation (since you are so thoroughly dismissive of the explanation in the article). Care to share it?


15 posted on 08/09/2005 10:12:45 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: News Junkie

Ribbett. Ribbett.

Just because something looks obvious, doesn't means it looks obvious. Like maybe 2 plus 2 equals 4 is merely an illusion.


42 posted on 08/09/2005 1:07:55 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: News Junkie
I love a story that goes "first this had to happen, then this had to happen, then a final thing had to happen..., etc".

No evidence that it actually happened, of course.

Not just 'no evidence,' but strong logical and statistical evidence that it didn't happen that way. This is good anecdotal support for the book "Tornado in a Junkyard."

"Just a presupposition that because the frogs are there, and evolution is the only allowable explanation for it, then it must have happend by covergent evolution."

Exactly! Stephen Gould, in his book "Wonderful Life" essentially demolished the idea of evolution, but went on to support it anyway because he admitted that the alternative was "unthinkable."

"Sorry, not convincing."

Not science, either!

69 posted on 08/10/2005 9:02:55 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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