Posted on 08/10/2005 2:26:47 PM PDT by ElCapusto
War on Terror 9/11 commission members want claim on Atta pursued
WASHINGTON – Members of the commission that uncovered the government's failures to share intelligence among agencies before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks want to know whether U.S. defense intelligence officials knew for more than a year that four of the hijackers were part of an al-Qaeda cell but failed to tell law enforcement. Lee Hamilton, co-chairman of the now-disbanded commission, said Tuesday that members of the Sept. 11 commission could issue a statement by the end of the week after reviewing claims that defense intelligence officials had identified ringleader Mohammed Atta and three other hijackers.
"The 9/11 commission did not learn of any U.S. government knowledge prior to 9/11 of surveillance of Mohammed Atta or of his cell," said Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. "Had we learned of it obviously it would've been a major focus of our investigation."
The commission's report on the terrorist attacks, released last year, traced government mistakes that allowed the hijackers to succeed. Among the problems the commission cited was a lack of coordination across intelligence agencies.
Rep. Curt Weldon, a Pennsylvania Republican who serves as vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees, said a classified military intelligence unit known as "Able Danger" identified the men in 1999.
That's an earlier link to al-Qaeda than any previously disclosed intelligence about Atta if the information, which Weldon said came from multiple intelligence sources, is true.
A group of 9/11 widows called the September 11th Advocates issued a statement Wednesday saying they were "horrified" to learn that further possible evidence exists, and they are disappointed the 9/11 Commission report is "incomplete and illusory."
"The revelation of this information demands answers that are forthcoming, clear and concise," the statement said. "The 9/11 attacks could have and should have been prevented."
With the 9/11 commission disbanded for a year under provisions of the legislation that created it, some of the panel's members have said congressional committees should investigate Weldon's assertions.
According to Weldon, Able Danger identified Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, Khalid al-Mihdar and Nawaf al-Hazmi as members of a cell the unit code-named "Brooklyn" because of some loose connections to New York City.
Weldon said that in September 2000 Able Danger recommended that its information on the hijackers be given to the FBI "so they could bring that cell in and take out the terrorists." However, Weldon said Pentagon lawyers rejected the recommendation because they said Atta and the others were in the country legally, so information on them could not be shared with law enforcement.
Weldon did not provide details on how the intelligence officials identified the future hijackers and determined they might be part of a terrorist cell.
Defense Department documents shown to an Associated Press reporter Tuesday said the Able Danger team was set up in 1999 to identify potential al-Qaeda operatives for U.S. Special Operations Command. At some point, information provided to the team by the Army's Information Dominance Center pointed to a possible al-Qaeda cell in Brooklyn, the documents said.
However, because of concerns about pursuing information on "U.S. persons" – a legal term that includes U.S. citizens as well as foreigners admitted to the country for permanent residence – Special Operations Command did not provide the Army information to the FBI. It is unclear whether the Army provided the information to anyone else.
The command instead turned its focus to overseas threats.
The documents provided no information on whether the team identified anyone connected to the Sept. 11 attacks on New York City and Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people.
If the team did identify Atta and the others, it's unclear why the information wasn't forwarded. The prohibition against sharing intelligence on "U.S. persons" should not have applied since they were in the country on visas and did not have permanent resident status.
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said he was unaware of the intelligence until the latest reports surfaced.
But Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the 9/11 Commission looked into the matter during its investigation into government missteps leading to the attacks and chose not to include it in the final report.
Hamilton said 9/11 Commission staff members learned of Able Danger during a meeting with military personnel in October 2003 in Afghanistan, but that the staff members do not recall learning of a connection between Able Danger and any of the four terrorists Weldon mentioned.
One 9/11 commission member is conspicuously not referred to in this article.
How many other Clintonista failures have been covered up by the career bureaucrats, Clinton appointees who burrowed into the agencies, and the impotent/biased 9/11 Commission??? Hope this is just the beginning of the revelations and re-assessments, but I'm not counting on it.
Go ask Jamie Gorelick and her Staff about it
Jamie, Jamie come out, come out where ever you are?
Was it Shakespeare who said he "doeth protest too much?"
Don't tell me the Commission did not know this. Gorelick was there when it happened. She sure as heck knew it.
I think the Commission itself ought to be investigated for covering this up.
Hmmm...give me a hint. Is this member female and a Clinton appointee?
*ping-a-ling*
Jamie Gorelick kept that nugget of information on her side of the Gorelick Wall.
That makes two of us.
The Clinton administration bears full responsibility for this muslim attack by their PC incompetence.
I can't thank you enough for posting this...I have been looking for a thread on this topic all afternoon.
I heard on Fox News today, that the 9/11 commission is sending its minions to the archives to check every piece of evidence the commission had, to see if they "overlooked" this...
Also, supposedly the Pentagon said today, that they DID turn over documents relating to this to the 9/11 commission 2 years ago..(which makes one wonder why Rummy didn't know about them)...
Also, Kristin Breitweiser ( jersey girl) was on Neil Cavuto, and seems to STILL blame Bush, even though this intelligence was turned over prior to Bush being President, and was NOT pursued...because Hillary's buddy Jamie Gorelick built the wall....
US Spec Ops Command was hyper-sensitive about it's role regarding intra-US operations. They were roundly criticized for their part in Waco and Koresh. We all learned that they are not to take part in any operation within the US, that that is the role of the FBI and the Justice Department.
If these terrorists were in the US legally, then the legal nuances would have been a real headache. I can see them dropping the case and feeling justified for doing so. My guess, though, is that FBI WAS informed. Spec Ops Command has continual contact with the FBI, and what might not have been formally passed along would have certainly been informally passed up the FBI food chain. In fact, I can see them working the subject WITH FBI involvement each step of the way.
Maybe this explains why Sandy Berger was stuffing his socks and pants with high security documents!
I see the entire article made no mention of Gorelick. I wonder why?
Whats with the "Intelligence Commission" it was JAMIE GORELICK, HER AND ONLY HER THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 3,000 DEAD CITIZENS OF 9/11....
And until that point is made, the commission and everything is a joke....
SHE sat on that commission and NEVER said a word, knowing all the time this was so...and then Clinton, Clinton and Gore, the previous administration tryed to blame it on Bush?????
Curt Weldon was on Washington Journal this morning. You can watch and listen to him here:
http://www.c-span.org/VideoArchives.asp?z1=&PopupMenu_Name=Defense/Security&CatCodePairs=Issue,DESE;
Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA)
Representative Curt Weldon (R-PA), Armed Services Committee Member and Homeland Security Committee Member, discusses military intelligence.
8/10/2005: WASHINGTON, DC: 30 min.
I heard on Fox News today, that the 9/11 commission is sending its minions to the archives to check every piece of evidence the commission had, to see if they "overlooked" this...
Unfortunately, Sandy Burglar smuggled them out of the archives in his pants.
Weldon's going to be on with Mark Levin today/this evening. Link up and listen at www.wabc.com...
Do you remember who selected or recommended Gorelick for the commission? Just curious.
I believe that up till the Jamie Gorelick directive in '95 there was no regulation that prevented the CIA from turning over information and leads to the relevant federal agencies. The limit was on intelligence agencies actually operating in the USA against citizens and residents.
Let's see...1999...August of 2000...
someone refresh my memory...WHO was President then?
/30-second "Final Jeopardy music...
Or did some 9-11 member, when asked about Gore-lick's involvement during the "hearings" (translated: "damn show trial"), say "People oughtta stay outta our business" (eh, Mr. Kean?)
I think it was Tom Daschle.
BTW, Weldon wants the staffers from the 911 committee to testify UNDER OATH.
Oh I heard Kristin (Katie wannabe) Breitsomething on Cavuto. I only heard the end though. Did he nail her on anything or let her ride...?
LOL---I was just getting ready to ping all of the freepers that I have been bugging today about a thread!
THANKS
Why hasn't GORELICK been tried and shot yet?
Able Danger, the 9/11 Commission & the Strange (But Now Explainable) Actions of Sandy Berger
By Sean Osborne, Senior Analyst & Military Affairs Expert
& Douglas J. Hagmann,Director
10 August 2005: Hey America… do you remember the strange actions of President Clinton’s national security adviser Sandy Berger during the 9/11 Commission investigation when he removed highly classified terrorism documents that should have been turned over to that independent commission? Did you ever wonder what Berger was attempting to hide and even more importantly, why? Did you also wonder why, even though he committed a felony, he received nothing more than a slap on the wrist while various political and intelligence officials played down his actions, wanting them to disappear as quickly as possible? It appears that we just might have discovered the answers to these and other troubling questions: Able Danger.
Able Danger is the code name of a secret team of U.S. Army military intelligence operatives created in 1999 under a directive signed by General Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to assemble information about al Qaeda networks around the world. In mid-2000, the Able Danger team discovered the existence of the key 9/11 terror cell of Mohammed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawar al-Hamzi inside the U.S. and recommended to their military superiors that the FBI be called in to “take out that cell,” according to Representative Curt Weldon, the Pennsylvania House member and vice chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. That information was presented in the summer of 2000 in the form of a chart complete with photographs of the terrorists to the Pentagon's Special Operations Command headquarters in Tampa, Florida. Our intelligence was dead-on accurate, but was not acted upon a full year before the 9/11 attacks.
In fact, Representative Weldon said Able Danger members had recommended that the information they uncovered be shared with the FBI, but the idea was rejected and they “were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn’t exist.”
Despite the findings of Able Danger, absolutely no action was pursued to take out the cell during the weeks leading up to the 2000 presidential election, said Weldon. The reason? Mohammed Atta possessed a “green card” at the time. Under the rules of the Clinton Justice Department, lawyers working for Special Operations decided that anyone holding a green card had to be granted essentially the same legal protections as any U.S. citizen. They did not want to recommend that the FBI go after someone holding a green card, Weldon told his House colleagues on June 27, 2005 during a speech, known as a “special order,” which he delivered on the House floor. Defense Department lawyers were also said to be reluctant to suggest a bold action by FBI agents after the bureau’s disastrous 1993 strike against the Branch Davidian religious cult in Waco, Texas.
Read Curt Weldon’s June 27, 2005 Testimony
This week, Representative Weldon and a former defense intelligence official said they had spoken with three Able Danger team members, all still working in the government, including two in the military, and that they were consistent in asserting that Mohammed Atta's affiliation with a Qaeda terrorism cell in the United States was known within the Defense Department by mid-2000 but was not acted upon. Further and after the fact, the 9-11 Commission was reportedly never told about Able Danger or its findings.
Enter Sandy Berger – During the 9/11 Commission
While the investigation by the 9/11 Commission was in progress, Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, who served as Clinton's national security adviser for all of President's Clinton’s second term, was caught removing documents from the national Archives – the very same documents that should have been turned over to the independent commission probing the September 11, 2001, terror attacks. Berger ultimately admitted to intentionally taking and destroying various classified documents relating to terrorism collected under the Clinton administration. Berger and his lawyer said on July 19, 2004 that he knowingly removed the handwritten notes by placing them in his jacket, pants and socks, and also “inadvertently” took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio. Those documents reportedly included an assessment of America's terror vulnerabilities at airports, something very relevant to Able Danger’s findings and key to the 9/11 attacks. What Sandy Berger did was a felony, yet was allowed a generous plea agreement of a fine and a three-year suspension of his security clearance.
Under the prism of Able Danger, we are now able to make sense out of the previously curious actions of Sandy Berger.
Able Danger & the Saga of the 9/11 Commission; Warren Commission Redux
According to Weldon, staff members of the 9/11 Commission were briefed on the findings of the Able Danger intelligence unit within the Special Operations Command and about the specific recommendation to break up the Mohammed Atta cell, yet those members reportedly decided not to brief the commission’s members on those matters. Why not?
Clearer now is the conflict of interest of having Jamie Gorelick, the Assistant Attorney General under Bill Clinton serving on the 9/11 Commission. Ms. Gorelick worked directly for Janet Reno and was directly involved in matters that were under review by the 9/11 Commission.
Remember the reason the findings of Able Danger were not acted upon? In his testimony before the 9/11 Commission, Attorney General John Ashcroft stated the following:
"In 1995, the Justice Department embraced flawed legal reasoning, imposing a series of restrictions on the FBI that went beyond what the law required," he said. "The 1995 Guidelines and the procedures developed around them imposed draconian barriers to communications between the law enforcement and intelligence communities. The wall left intelligence agents afraid to talk with criminal prosecutors or agents. In 1995, the Justice Department designed a system destined to fail."
Continuing his testimony, Ashcroft stated:
"Somebody built this wall.” Ashcroft added: "The basic architecture for the wall . . . was contained in a classified memorandum entitled 'Instructions on Separation of Certain Foreign Counterintelligence and Criminal Investigations. Full disclosure compels me to inform you that its author is a member of this Commission."
Ashcroft was referring to Jamie Gorelick, who served as Deputy Attorney General in the Clinton Administration as well as general counsel at the Department of Defense. Both jobs put her at the very center of the former administration's anti-terrorism efforts. Consequently, her actions, as well as those of her superiors, were the subject of review by the very commission on which she is a member. Most assuredly, that is a huge conflict of interest. In her position at the Justice Department, Gorelick wrote a memo that provides a picture of the role she played setting policy for intelligence gathering and sharing during the Clinton Administration. The memo stemmed from the Justice Department's prosecution of the 1993 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.
Gorelick wrote in 1995:
“During the course of those investigations, significant counterintelligence information has been developed related to the activities and plans of agents of foreign powers operating in this country and overseas, including previously unknown connections between separate terrorist groups." We believe that it is prudent to establish a set of instructions that will clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations. These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation."
And therein is the framework for the legal conundrum faced by Able Danger, and why Atta and his minions were free to hijack 4 airliners on 9/11.
I can understand WHY this information wasn't shared...and I have not faulted the actual agents of either department for anything...
What I DO fault is the ones like Gorelick that made it so...and then didn't take any responsibility of heat for it....
UNTIL, hopefully, NOW...
> Lee Hamilton defends the serious Clinton administration malfeasance.
Yeah, but by contrast to the Air Enron scandal, it's
interesting that Legacy Media feels like they have to
report on this story.
And it looks pretty culpable for the Clinton Admin,
at least for anyone who can read a calendar.
Rush Limbaugh was wondering the same thing about this...
He said that he thinks we may now find out what documents might have accidentely been shredded by Burguler!!!!
She's responsible, of course. However, the Dynamic Clinton duo need to be spotlighted.
Junior Senator Hillary Rotham made most of the "executive" decisions as her sickening marxist co-president was busy masturbating into the oval office sink.
Some stories are just too big for the MSM to bury - they may as well try to conceal a sunrise. This is one of them. They'll dance around it for a few days, until they can figure out a way to exculpate Clinton and pin the whole thing on Bush.
Cavuto gave her a STAGE---for her moaning and crying...
He even was asking her if Bush had "done enough in your opinion" in the last 4 years to keep our country safe...
Her answer NO!
He asked her, based on this new information, if she blamed the Bush Administration less now, and the Clinton Administration more...
Her answer NO!
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But Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the 9/11 Commission looked into the matter during its investigation into government missteps leading to the attacks and chose not to include it in the final report.
Hamilton said 9/11 Commission staff members learned of Able Danger during a meeting with military personnel in October 2003 in Afghanistan, but that the staff members do not recall learning of a connection between Able Danger and any of the four terrorists Weldon mentioned.
Staff members made a trip to Afghanastan?
Your welcome! :-)
Your #29 is indeed the "rest of the story."
That shocked me also..
What in the heck are the commission members doing, going to Afghanistan on our$$$$$$$$???????
BTT
later
Come on Lee, insist that the staffers testify UNDER OATH before Congress.
And another oh so subtle hint ........check out the directors (a Clinton appointee) of Fannie May mortgage organization that (again) needs to restate its annual income due to "accounting difficulties" and was rumored to be in line for delisting.
They are naive to think it is anything but. Such is the nature of bureacracy, it can do no wrong.
One thing I've noticed about Cavuto is that he tends to let his lefty-leaning guests ramble on, but then after he gets his thoughts together, he zings them in his final comments the next day or so. Hopefully, he'll set her straight tomorrow.
This is one document that didn't make it to Sandy Berger's pants.
Looking for Bin Laden? ;)))
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