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9/11 Commission Wants Atta Claims Pursued
Associated Press/AP Online ^ | Wednesday, 10 August 2005, 18:00 CDT | John J. Lumpkin

Posted on 08/10/2005 7:05:39 PM PDT by dila813

9/11 Commission Wants Atta Claims Pursued


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WASHINGTON -- Members of the Sept. 11 commission want to know whether defense intelligence officials knew four of the hijackers were part of an al-Qaida cell but failed to tell law enforcement.

Lee Hamilton, co-chairman of the now-disbanded commission, said Tuesday that members of the panel could issue a statement by the end of the week after reviewing claims that officials had identified ringleader Mohamed Atta and three other hijackers.

"The 9/11 commission did not learn of any U.S. government knowledge prior to 9/11 of surveillance of Mohamed Atta or of his cell," said Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana. "Had we learned of it, obviously it would've been a major focus of our investigation."

The commission's report on the terrorist attacks, released last year, traced government mistakes that allowed the hijackers to succeed. Among the problems the commission cited was a lack of coordination across intelligence agencies.

Rep. Curt Weldon, a Pennsylvania Republican who serves as vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees, said a classified military intelligence unit known as "Able Danger" identified the men in 1999.

That's an earlier link to al-Qaida than any previously disclosed intelligence about Atta if the information, which Weldon said came from multiple intelligence sources, is true.

A group of 9/11 widows called the September 11th Advocates issued a statement Wednesday saying they were "horrified" to learn that further possible evidence exists, and they are disappointed the 9/11 Commission report is "incomplete and illusory."

"The revelation of this information demands answers that are forthcoming, clear and concise," the statement said. "The 9/11 attacks could have and should have been prevented."

With the 9/11 commission disbanded for a year under provisions of the legislation that created it, some of the panel's members have said congressional committees should investigate Weldon's assertions.

According to Weldon, Able Danger identified Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi, Khalid al-Mihdar and Nawaf al-Hazmi as members of a cell the unit code-named "Brooklyn" because of some loose connections to New York City.

Weldon said that in September 2000 Able Danger recommended that its information on the hijackers be given to the FBI "so they could bring that cell in and take out the terrorists." However, Weldon said Pentagon lawyers rejected the recommendation because they said Atta and the others were in the country legally, so information on them could not be shared with law enforcement.

Weldon did not provide details on how the intelligence officials identified the future hijackers and determined they might be part of a terrorist cell.

Defense Department documents shown to an Associated Press reporter Tuesday said the Able Danger team was set up in 1999 to identify potential al-Qaida operatives for U.S. Special Operations Command. At some point, information provided to the team by the Army's Information Dominance Center pointed to a possible al-Qaida cell in Brooklyn, the documents said.

However, because of concerns about pursuing information on "U.S. persons" - a legal term that includes U.S. citizens as well as foreigners admitted to the country for permanent residence - Special Operations Command did not provide the Army information to the FBI. It is unclear whether the Army provided the information to anyone else.

The command instead turned its focus to overseas threats.

The documents provided no information on whether the team identified anyone connected to the Sept. 11 attacks on New York City and Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people.

If the team did identify Atta and the others, it's unclear why the information wasn't forwarded. The prohibition against sharing intelligence on "U.S. persons" should not have applied since they were in the country on visas and did not have permanent resident status.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said he was unaware of the intelligence until the latest reports surfaced.

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Associated Press Writer John J. Lumpkin contributed to this report.

Source: Associated Press/AP Online


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commission; 911hijackers; abledanger; atta; gorelick; hillaryknew; lostdocuments
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Could these be the documents that Clinton's Cronie was sneaking in his pants out of the 911 record room??

Anyone got the dirt??

1 posted on 08/10/2005 7:05:40 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
Anyone ask Gorelick if this is OK, we certainly want make sure she's OK with it.
2 posted on 08/10/2005 7:08:49 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: dila813

also....could there be perjury charges if someone lied under oath stating, "we did not know these men were in America"??

And again- where the eff was Richard dickie Clarke while all this was going down???


3 posted on 08/10/2005 7:09:00 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: dila813

Mr. Liberal says...This a plot to divert attention from the traitor Karl Rove. MSM says that 9-11 is old news.


4 posted on 08/10/2005 7:10:25 PM PDT by BallyBill (..the only quagmire I see is the one the Media is stuck in..)
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To: Archon of the East
Thats what I mean, isn't this the smoking gun they never ever wanted to see the light of day???? and Gorelick knew it the whole time why she was on the commission. This would be a huge scandal.
5 posted on 08/10/2005 7:12:09 PM PDT by dila813
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To: God luvs America

Look at the date, 1999, this is the smoking gun. I got a feeling in my bones.


6 posted on 08/10/2005 7:13:10 PM PDT by dila813
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To: BallyBill

they wish


7 posted on 08/10/2005 7:13:28 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
Is anybody else suspicious of this whole thing?
 
Curt Weldon has a new book out, and on tour during the break, and reveals this blockbuster info.  The whole thing smells like a PR stunt to me.
 
On amazon right now:
 
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8 posted on 08/10/2005 7:18:31 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: dila813
From a year ago --

MIDI - LAST KISS

Embarrassing, well to say the least...the right wing would have quite a feast
Bill Clinton was warned of the al Qaeda cells
He kept it secret from the Bush team and said, "Oh, what the hell"

Ashcroft had testified info wasn't shared...it's time for Clinton to be scared
He knew the truth...danger's great
But he's too busy, he had a date
When it's found out, people won't let it lie
Hillary, kiss your butt goodbye
They are to blame that we were hit
Those lying scum are full of it

Oh where oh where have the papers gone
Bill chose Berger, the choice was wrong
And just like terrorists they caught him by chance
Some agents had looked over as he's stuffing them down his pants

As the truth comes out, some will turn up the heat
Bush's team sees this as such a treat
Subterfuge from evil DemocRATS
It's no wonder that they're called sewer rats
Bill's lost his mind and screams under duress
"Monica, don't get it on your dress!"
Poor Sandy thinks there may be danger near
He's trembling as he says, "I'm out of here"
A coverup...will he join Bill for the ride
He says he'll be no Arkancide

Oh where oh where have the papers gone
Bill chose Berger, the choice was wrong
And just like terrorists they caught him by chance
Some agents had looked over as he's stuffing them down his pants

Did his package grow? What is in his pants?
I think we'd like to know...Sandy, time to dance
Oh, did his package grow? What is in his pants?
I think we'd like to know...Sandy, time to dance

9 posted on 08/10/2005 7:18:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: dila813

Sandy destroyed all evidence pointing to crooked dick so the trail will lead nowhere as usual.


10 posted on 08/10/2005 7:19:01 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: dila813
They better make Jamie Gorelick a committee witness instead of a member too......
11 posted on 08/10/2005 7:21:30 PM PDT by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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To: Archon of the East

You'd never know Gorelick or her memo existed if you read this article.


12 posted on 08/10/2005 7:23:08 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Free Michael Graham!)
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To: dila813
...whether defense intelligence officials knew four of the hijackers were part of an al-Qaida cell but failed to tell law enforcement...

whether defense intelligence officials knew four of the hijackers were part of an al-Qaida cell but were prevented from telling law enforcement...
13 posted on 08/10/2005 7:27:25 PM PDT by frankenMonkey (Name one civil liberty that was not paid for in blood)
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To: frankenMonkey


Go To The Source
14 posted on 08/10/2005 7:29:37 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: dila813

More serious than Watergate, this one was tampering with evidence and intelligence relating to 9/11, whereas in the Nixon scandal no one was killed.
How much jail time are Clinton and cronie looking at?


15 posted on 08/10/2005 7:31:15 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: dila813
"Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said he was unaware of the intelligence until the latest reports surfaced."

Understandable, given Rummy wasn't SecDef at the time. But what about Clintoon's SecDef, what does he have to say? Should we expect "Cohen could not be reached for comment"? Did the reporter even bother to ask or did they think the Rummy statement would give the impression that it was Bush's Fault TM What did Richard Clarke know and when did he know It? Sandy Burglar? Did Gorelick squash that line of inquiry knowing that her policy enabled Atta to succeed? What do the Jersey Girls have to say?

16 posted on 08/10/2005 7:31:58 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: dila813

I want Cohen, Gorelick, and Sandy Burglar, questioned under oath, no more free passes.


17 posted on 08/10/2005 7:34:28 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (The constitution is not in exile, it's in a nice safe deposit box in the Cayman Islands - Lileks)
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To: Lokibob

This guy, considering his positions in the house and his reputation, is going to make up some wild stories just to sell books?

Rep. Weldon has been one of the best House members when it comes to terrorism and the Jihadists.


18 posted on 08/10/2005 7:34:31 PM PDT by Sometimes A River (Che Guevera isn't cool)
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To: NonValueAdded

OHHHHHH BAAABBBBYYYYY We Got yAAAA!


19 posted on 08/10/2005 7:36:59 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
Lee Hamilton, co-chairman of the now-disbanded commission, said Tuesday that members of the panel could issue a statement by the end of the week after reviewing claims that officials had identified ringleader Mohamed Atta and three other hijackers.

Sorry Lee, you screwed it up once, I don't think that you should have a second chance! How about we nominate a handful of Freepers to follow up on this new development???????

20 posted on 08/10/2005 7:38:10 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: frankenMonkey

They weren't allowed to tell Law Enforcement, what they were allowed to do was report it to their chain of command. a chain of command that led back the white house. Sweeeettttttt!!!!!


21 posted on 08/10/2005 7:38:30 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dubyaismypresident
I want them to answer the question, "did you try to obstruct the 911 commission??"
22 posted on 08/10/2005 7:39:23 PM PDT by dila813
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To: eeriegeno

I will do it for free.


23 posted on 08/10/2005 7:40:15 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Lokibob

I don't know...

I don't think the NY Times makes a habit of running front page stories about something negative towards Clinton, to help a Republican sell books....


24 posted on 08/10/2005 7:40:54 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Free Republic is #1!!!!!)
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To: Uncle George

No. Put all DOD lawyers, Sandy Burger,Gorelick, and the White House lawyer up before a Congressional Committee and put them under oath and make them tell the truth or perjor themselves. Put some of the sonsabitches in the prison for the rest of their natural lives.


25 posted on 08/10/2005 7:43:52 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Txsleuth

This isn't the first news report. Just one of many.

But this is the first one that shows it was 1999 not 2000!


26 posted on 08/10/2005 7:45:50 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dubyaismypresident

Don't forget our old friend Clarke. Put these bastards under oath. Force the truth from them. It is the only hope of getting anywhere near the truth from a democrat.


27 posted on 08/10/2005 7:46:45 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: dubyaismypresident
>"I want Cohen, Gorelick, and Sandy Burglar, questioned under oath, no more free passes."

Da Burgerlar hasn't been sentenced yet. Lets wait and see if he takes an Arkansas dirt nap before his time to twist!

Sandy's best bet is to sing like a canary ASAP, before the clintonistas put him atta their misery!

Kill A Commie For Mommie
Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

28 posted on 08/10/2005 7:50:10 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: dubyaismypresident

add Barbara Bodine to that list.


29 posted on 08/10/2005 7:51:35 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: dila813

This story is going to be huge. Back in June on a previous thread:

Hillary Appointee tied to 9/11 Blunder
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1420922/posts


30 posted on 08/10/2005 7:54:49 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: dila813

Time to suppoena Sandy Berger's underpants.


31 posted on 08/10/2005 7:55:11 PM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: dila813

The laughingstock "9/11 Commission" wants to get its fingers into this new stuff for the sole purpose of protecting Clinton. The commission's term has expired - - now I wish they would just go away.


32 posted on 08/10/2005 7:56:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: BurbankKarl
Source: 9/11panel staffers probing documents on 'able danger'
KHON2, HI - 36 minutes ago
Defense Department documents show that the information, developed by a classified defense intelligence unit dubbed "Able Danger," wasn't handed over to the FBI ...
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33 posted on 08/10/2005 7:58:25 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

34 posted on 08/10/2005 8:02:11 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Texas Songwriter
Put all DOD lawyers, Sandy Burger,Gorelick, and the White House lawyer up before a Congressional Committee and put them under oath and make them tell the truth or perjor themselves.

The friggin' guy snuck national security documents out of the archives in his pants. He won't be afraid to try a littler perjury.

35 posted on 08/10/2005 8:04:16 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (Never draw to an inside straight.)
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To: dila813

I hope you are right....


36 posted on 08/10/2005 8:06:05 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Lawgvr1955

especially we seem to have a current DOJ that could care less.


37 posted on 08/10/2005 8:06:28 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Ashcroft is gone. He was too worried about making waves.
38 posted on 08/10/2005 8:10:37 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
The lawyers in question just made a little legal mistake. And of course, just because it appeared to be an Al Qaida terrorist cell operating out of beautiful downtown Brooklyn is irrelevant. Maybe they thought it was the Brooklyn in The Netherlands. So many Brooklyns, so little time. We must uphold the law, however errantly we apply it. The memo that the law is not a suicide pact apparently didn't work its way through channels. We must move on.
39 posted on 08/10/2005 8:12:17 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

"We must move on."

3k say nay


40 posted on 08/10/2005 8:17:11 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813
At some point, information provided to the team by the Army's Information Dominance Center pointed to a possible al-Qaida cell in Brooklyn, the documents said

Ok, so Able Danger got the info from the Army's "Information Dominance Center" (never heard of it before).

But, here is a webpage tidbit about it: Click

If this is true, then NSA knew about this too. Not much of a stretch to think Clinton knew about it then.

41 posted on 08/10/2005 8:17:22 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: dila813

I want to know why the Commission did not tell us about this until now.


42 posted on 08/10/2005 8:18:17 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: dila813
What's funny is they never asked why Jaime Gorelick was nominated to sit on the commission in the first place. It was her "wall" memo that kept our government agencies from putting two and two together and learning Mohammed Atta was the ringleader of an Al Qaeda terrorist cell in this country. And they're now shocked it was her policy that led to 9/11? Spare me, please!

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
43 posted on 08/10/2005 8:22:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Brilliant

Because the members of the commission who are complaining publically didn't know until now. They clearly felt silly buggered, and fully intend to balance the books. When Les Hamilton gets mad, you know the s**t is going to hit the fan. Few in public life have more credibility that he does.


44 posted on 08/10/2005 8:24:07 PM PDT by Torie
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To: VeniVidiVici

Sounds like a secure searchable blog


45 posted on 08/10/2005 8:26:52 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

46 posted on 08/10/2005 8:27:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: dila813
9/11 Commission Wants Atta Claims Pursued

Oh, they do, do they? Uh huh. Sure, I believe it. The AP says so. Uh huh. Funny they didn't have this in those thousands of pages they 'pursued' last year. Suppose we'll be hearing some righteous outrage from The Jersey Girls soon, too. Uh huh.

47 posted on 08/10/2005 8:27:40 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: dila813

Sounds like someone that was into S&M :-)


48 posted on 08/10/2005 8:29:19 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: dila813
Why do I have a feeling we'll have a major "sources say" story about Rove anyday now, to blow this off the front pages?

I imagine DU is already starting a "Don't get distracted" thread.

We need a pointman on this. I nominate Norm Coleman, just because he's not my senator and unlike Obama, he's managed to still get my attention based on his candid answers when interviewed.

49 posted on 08/10/2005 8:30:33 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious
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To: stocksthatgoup

Man, Gorelick is giving Janet Reno and Helen Thomas some real competition in the looks department.


50 posted on 08/10/2005 8:31:26 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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