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To: STARWISE; wretchard; Howlin; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; Bommer; Lazamataz; SJackson; yonif; ...
"Two gigs for the 9/11 Commission: one for ignoring the data and one for lying about it."

Captain V's advice is valid for all non-compromised intel agencies and government commissions.

However, Captain V's advice is invalid for those commissions and intel agencies that are *actively* subverting the U.S.

For the 9/11 Congressional Commission, for instance, not only was it caught lying that it "didn't know" about Able Danger, but it was caught lying that it was only 2 Military Intel agents whose Able Danger information was disregarded "because it didn't align with any other data."

Because not only did the 2 military intel officers tell the 9/11 Commission about the 4 known (prior to 9/11 via Able Danger) hijackers, but Richard Clarke himself told the 9/11 Commission that the FBI knew of 2 of the 19 9/11 hijackers operating in the U.S. prior to 9/11/2001.

So the 9/11 Commission LIED about "not knowing," lied about why they dismissed the intel from the 2 officers, and then lied again about Richard Clarke's ***public*** testimony to their Congressional panel!

Gorelick knew. The 9/11 Commission knew. They tried to spike hijacker revelation from the 2 different sources (Richard Clarke and the intel officers).

That's not innocent behavior. That's not merely a procedural problem or an institutional problem or groupthink.

That's active subversion.

And it's active subversion that just adds to the subversion hoisted upon us via the Gorelick Wall.

Lets also not forget all of the public leaks that our intel agencies keep springing.

Lets remember that National Security Advisor Berger was caught shredding classified documents.

Lets remember that Valerie Plame was actively scheming to bring down our President by rigging up left-wing-insider "intel" gathering in Niger.

Lets remember that our intel agencies tried to trick our President into using the French-forged Niger WMD documents.

This is all treason. This is WHY our intel agencies are being cleaned up by Porter Goss and John Negroponte, and it is why the Left is scrambling and screaming thusly.

65 posted on 08/12/2005 4:19:40 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

do you see anyone from the administration speaking about this, escalating the calls for investigations? the so-called republican members of the 9-11 commission were obviously part of the coverup. why?

as Rush said today - both parties have a hand in protecting the "political class" from blame.


67 posted on 08/12/2005 4:25:20 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Southack

Thanks for this!


88 posted on 08/12/2005 5:13:11 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Southack
This is all treason.

Sorry Hack, but there is no such thing anymore.

97 posted on 08/12/2005 6:58:52 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Southack
Right on to your post #65!!!! Thank God for W, Porter Goss, Condi and Negroponte. I think and I PRAY we have half a chance of the tenured filth being fumigated from the bowels of these agencies.

If WE can dig around and find and know the tip of the iceberg of all this diabolical and incestuous RAT conspiracy, imagine what W and the security team know and all the black filth we DON'T even know. If somebody in this admin. or the Justice Dept. doesn't start revealing and laying bare all this evil, I'm gonna scream!!!! The disgusting thing is the MSM and the RATS are going to go nuclear and scorched earth to to discredit and obstruct EVERYTHING this admin. tries to do to SAVE OUR COUNTRY. It is devastating to ponder .. truly.

100 posted on 08/12/2005 7:44:34 PM PDT by STARWISE (CURB POLLUTION; SAVE ENERGY: Show a lie-detection meter for every Democrat interview.)
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To: Southack

Good post, thanks.


101 posted on 08/12/2005 8:31:54 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Southack

Thanks for the ping.


102 posted on 08/12/2005 9:01:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: Southack
Captain V's advice is valid for all non-compromised intel agencies and government commissions. However, Captain V's advice is invalid for those commissions and intel agencies that are *actively* subverting the U.S.

Oh Southack, thank you again and again for saying this and saying it so well. I was hearing, "Nobody's really responsible for this (or anything), it's just the system."

The "system" is what the people who run the system make it.

115 posted on 08/13/2005 5:57:33 AM PDT by Sal (Set up to facilitate the treason of Chinagate, Gorelick's wall also facilitated 9/11. Accident ?)
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To: Southack
Just so.

You left out the constant spewing of propaganda about the "findings" of this "Commission" by key " winteness" and even members of the the "Commission."

Notable among these folks has been Clarke himself, who not to long ago had an amazing piece of agit-prop that railed against the administration, the Iraq war and the WOT in general. He is foisted on used as some sort of expert and is some how supposed to be further validated as an "expert" by his performance as a "witness" in this affair>

So the subversion goes beyond what you have categorized: It is extends to what appears to be a planned, prolonged and willful attempt to mislead the nation out side of the confines proper of the ambit of that commissions rights, duties and obligations.

116 posted on 08/13/2005 6:43:48 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Southack
Thanks again, Southack.

...Another thing people need to remember is all of the hemming and hawing the Democrats and their Lobbyists made during the confirmation hearings of both Porter Goss and Condeleeza Rice...they knew these two specifically were going to get about the president's business of cleaning up the two agencies in question.
126 posted on 08/13/2005 10:53:09 AM PDT by T Lady (The American Left: Useful Idiots for Terrorist Regimes)
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To: Southack; backhoe; All
Are you aware of 911 Commission Staff Report, separate and apart from the official 911 Commission Report HERE??

Also, you may want to add this to the running links, if not already pinged to it:

Gorelick 'MemoGate': It Just Got Worse

130 posted on 08/13/2005 8:08:30 PM PDT by STARWISE (GITMO IS TOO GOOD FOR THESE TRAITORS -- SEND THEM ALL TO EGYPT FOR QUESTIONING.)
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