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To: aft_lizard
evil is not a physical state, and frankly I dont understand why you brought it up.

You said "everything" so I was just clarifying.

But to answer you question, yes god created evil,as well as good

Then He is responsible for "evil" end of discussion. Not everything He created is good and, therefore, He is not worthy of worship. Unless you are trying to argue that "evil" is "good" which means that words mean nothing.

see he gave us freewill and with freewill we are able to deicde what to call what and when to do it.

Actually this is impossible. He knew my name before I was born and knew all my choices before I was born. I could not act in a manner that contradicted His foreknowledge so He decided long before I was born whether I would be evil, which you admit He created, or whether I would be saved. There is no free will there.

can we say we all evolved from an single cell organism?

Actually the concept of "strange attractors" says that if the conditions were right there were probably billions of cells all came into being at roughly the same time. Just like when the conditions are right there are 100 tornadoes in a given area, if the conditions were right for life billions of cells could have spontaneously sprang into being.

There are billions of species on earth, and only one universe it sits in, yet for some odd reason we can kind of sort of geez, create a theory on how we evolved here yet cannot explain the universes birth.

This is called False Analogy. The comparison of evolution to the Universe's "Birth" are 2 completely separate subjects. You want the harder one solved first before you will accept the closer, easier one valid. To use an Analogy properly, this would be like insisting a doctor perform brain surgery before doctors had learned how to set broken bones.

43 posted on 08/13/2005 6:34:49 PM PDT by LogicWings
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To: LogicWings

Aren't you aware of the First Law of IDiocy? If science can't explain something, Got did it. Or perhaps space aliens.


44 posted on 08/13/2005 6:38:02 PM PDT by js1138 (Science has it all: the fun of being still, paying attention, writing down numbers...)
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To: LogicWings

Dang it I was going to quit arguing but you had to drag me back into it. :)

So GOD creating a neutral balance, which means good along with evil, love along with hate. Automatically removes him from worthy of being worshipped?

heres the good one you came up with, its excellent:

Actually this is impossible. He knew my name before I was born and knew all my choices before I was born. I could not act in a manner that contradicted His foreknowledge so He decided long before I was born whether I would be evil, which you admit He created, or whether I would be saved. There is no free will there.>>

WOW, just wow. Because GOD may know all, be all the alpha and the omega. And he knows that what might happen to you, does not change the fact that you create your own destiny, that you make your own choices, he gave us freewill.


I know I am going to die, its unavoidable. So since its etched in stone and unavoidable, I should say go ahead and shoot myself no, or better yet how about quit my job sell my car by a gun and kill many people, maybe thats what I should do, I mean since there is no greater intelligence out there I will just cease to be and since I am going to die anyways whats the harm in a few people cut short by me. And if I followed your argument on this that means I only did what I was meant to do.

No more arguing for me, supper time.


61 posted on 08/13/2005 6:58:01 PM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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