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Able Danger's hidden hand
The Washington Times ^ | August 15, 2005 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 08/15/2005 4:10:28 PM PDT by george76

The report of the September 11 Commission, once a best seller and hailed by the news media as the definitive word on the subject, must now be moved to the fiction shelves.

The commission concluded...the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon couldn't have been prevented.

Able Danger has changed all of that.

The problem was...Jamie Gorelick.

What may be a bigger scandal is that the staff of the September 11 Commission knew of Able Danger and what it had found, but made no mention of it in its report. This is as if the commission that investigated the attack on Pearl Harbor had written its final report without mentioning the Japanese.

When the story broke Lee Hamilton denied the commission had ever been informed of Able Danger...

"Had we learned of it, obviously it would have been a major focus of our investigation."

Mr. Hamilton later changed his tune...

Sandy Berger stole classified documents and destroyed some...Was he removing references to Able Danger? Someone should ask him before he is sentenced next month.

The dispute over Atta's whereabouts in Prague on April 9, 2001, to meet with Samir al Ani, an Iraqi intelligence officer.

Czech intelligence insists he was. Able Danger had information supporting the Czechs.

But acknowledging that possibility would leave open the likelihood that Saddam's regime was involved in the September 11 attacks. And that would have been as uncomfortable for Democrats as the revelation that September 11 could have been prevented if it hadn't been for the Clinton administration's wall of separation.

The September 11 Commission wrote history as it wanted it to be, not as it was. The real history of what happened that terrible September day has yet to be written.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; able; abledanger; atta; commission; gorelick; gorelickmemo; gorelickwall; jamiegorelick; sandyberger; september11; worldtradecenter; wtc
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1 posted on 08/15/2005 4:10:31 PM PDT by george76
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To: nutmeg

read later


2 posted on 08/15/2005 4:11:50 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: george76
When the story broke Lee Hamilton denied the commission had ever been informed of Able Danger...

Lee Hamilton is a grandfatherly, well-paid, professional LIAR.

3 posted on 08/15/2005 4:13:29 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: george76


Clinton + Reno + Gorelick + Berger + 911 Commission =

COVER UP


4 posted on 08/15/2005 4:14:14 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: george76

I can hope that this gets legs. I have not watched any news on TV today. Nothing on the radio news.

If Rush mentioned this I must have missed it.


5 posted on 08/15/2005 4:17:21 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: george76

bttt


6 posted on 08/15/2005 4:18:27 PM PDT by maestro
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To: george76
must now be moved to the fiction shelves.

I bought it last year and it just sat there. Maybe I can roast marshmellows over it or something.

7 posted on 08/15/2005 4:19:36 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: tall_tex

Try to catch Michael Savage. I guarantee he'll mention it......at the top of his lungs!


8 posted on 08/15/2005 4:25:14 PM PDT by mickie
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To: tall_tex

they are whistling passed the grave yard. most radio and newsprint as well as the tv folks , are praying this is not real. if it is real , think of how many more of us will see the emperor undressed. good for us bad for them.


9 posted on 08/15/2005 4:27:26 PM PDT by fantom
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To: george76
Bill Clinton ----- Czech-Mate!
10 posted on 08/15/2005 4:29:40 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: beyond the sea

In this day and age, anyone who wears a bow-tie is a POSER! Saying "look at me, mommy"


11 posted on 08/15/2005 4:31:27 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: beyond the sea

He's a Democrat...they ALL lie.


12 posted on 08/15/2005 4:34:01 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mickie

I don't think I have listened to him, although I may have, there was a guy shouting and going on during morning drive time on a station here in Austin that say they are a conservative talk radio station. Way to early in the day to get into the rants with only one cup of coffee under my belt. I will search and try again.

Thanks for the heads up.


13 posted on 08/15/2005 4:34:32 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: fantom

AMEN


14 posted on 08/15/2005 4:35:32 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: nutmeg

Here's PRAYING that Sandy Burglar's sentence REFLECTS what he did....DESTROY EVIDENCE in the biggest terrorist attack on America!!


15 posted on 08/15/2005 4:36:13 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: george76

I don't get how Burglar is able to cop a plea without a complete allocution of his actions.


16 posted on 08/15/2005 4:37:05 PM PDT by putupjob
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To: putupjob

Its Washington and they don't have the same rules.


17 posted on 08/15/2005 4:40:36 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: putupjob

The real question is: "What documents did Sandy destroy and take from the National archives?" The federal government knows (since he copped a plea in this case and they evidently had evidence of his wrong-doing).

The next question is: Why does GWB continue to cover for the malfeasance of the Clinton administration? Here we stand at a point in time where this disgraced former president's wife would like to inherit the reigns of this country and instill the same disatrous policies. Why do they not "out" this man as the failure we all know that he was?


18 posted on 08/15/2005 4:42:24 PM PDT by deputac
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To: george76

Keep up the posts as new news on issue becomes available.
One can only wonder if Curt had plans to provide a bit more impetus to make sure the burglary man is not left off with just a slap on the wrists, and a three year probation period where he is not allowed to hold public office.


19 posted on 08/15/2005 4:44:30 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: george76
Time for Justice to depose all of the 9-11 Commission staff under oath. One of the Rat staffers won't want to go to jail.

Give 'em the Watergate treatment and be done with the Rat party once and for all.

Rats lied, patriots died!

20 posted on 08/15/2005 4:47:28 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

It would be the same as a JFK Assassination Commission holding hearings after the Warren Report was issued. With Gerald Ford, Arlen Spectre, and Lee Harvey Oswald sitting on the frickin' Commission. They really do take us for fools.


22 posted on 08/15/2005 4:53:17 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Behold the Riderless Pony. Bringing doom and destruction on a smaller scale.)
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To: The Drowning Witch
The report of the September 11 Commission, once a best seller and hailed by the news media as the definitive word on the subject, must now be moved to the fiction shelves.

Still have yours in the john?

23 posted on 08/15/2005 5:10:03 PM PDT by Jackknife (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation.-MacArthur)
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To: george76

CLINTON KNEW

BOTH OF THEM


24 posted on 08/15/2005 5:34:13 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: putupjob

He's a demorat. End of story.


25 posted on 08/15/2005 5:34:35 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Thank you for the support


26 posted on 08/15/2005 5:59:15 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: tall_tex

check his website!


27 posted on 08/15/2005 6:36:06 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: deputac

"Why does GWB continue to cover for the malfeasance of the Clinton administration?"


This is such an ignorant statement .. I hardly know where to begin .. so I won't!


28 posted on 08/15/2005 6:48:00 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: CyberAnt

If it is so ignorant, then why can it not be properly discussed? If the public, through the MSM, can demand hearings into September 11th resulting in the 9-11 Commission report, then how come, with the new evidence we are learning about the missed opportunities of the Clinton Administration can we not demand an investigation into this aspect of the story?

Fact is, terrorism existed before President Bush took office. Former President Clinton and his staff (the Burgler, Jaimie Gorelick, Janet Reno, et al.) knew about, but set up apparatus to avoid dealing with it. Why can we not expose this? Do you have an issue with the people's right to know?


29 posted on 08/15/2005 7:00:35 PM PDT by deputac
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To: CyberAnt

By the way, why post a comment such as you did without addressing the issue? If you are too tired to deal with it, why post in the first place?

Just trying to help you budget your time.


30 posted on 08/15/2005 7:02:08 PM PDT by deputac
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To: Ann Archy

Yeh, but Hamilton's the old reassuring, grandfatherly type that the government pulls out of moth balls when some real big deal lying needs done! (John Danforth- The Waco Report)


31 posted on 08/15/2005 7:04:46 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: CyberAnt

It's both parties. Mostly the Dems, but remember, Bush stood there and went on and on about what a grrreat guy Tenet was, while I and multitudes of Americans screamed uselessly at our radios and TVs.

That's a microcosm of his whole approach to make nice with those communist bastards. It was naive at best.


32 posted on 08/15/2005 7:13:09 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Logic test: Pearl Harbor is to 911 as Harry Truman is to .....)
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To: deputac

Well .. if rude and arrogant is your method of communicating .. you're on the wrong website. To come on this website and after reading all the information available to you here and you can still ask such an ignorant question .. then you're not a conservative and I have no idea why you're here except to launch your bombs at Bush.

Your question had no substance! Before Bush could cover up any "malfeasance by Clinton" - he would first have to know about it - and as Gov of Texas - I doubt he knew any more than we did. And .. after becoming President, why would Bush want to keep Clinton's face on the TV by brining up all that garbage .. Bush wanted to start with HIS own agenda, not continue with the Clinton stuff.

Bush did not become President so he could act like the Police Commissioner and go after Clinton. To assume that is the primary goal for Bush is just ignorant!!


33 posted on 08/15/2005 7:17:17 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: deputac
What documents did Sandy destroy and take from the National archives?" The federal government knows

I'm not so sure. How can we be sure?

34 posted on 08/15/2005 7:17:25 PM PDT by airborne
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To: george76

"Thank you for the support"
Likewise.


35 posted on 08/15/2005 7:18:26 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: george76

BTTT


36 posted on 08/15/2005 7:18:54 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Brick by brick, stone by stone, the Revolution grows)
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To: george76

mega-bump!!!

Excellent column & Post!

Bravo!!


37 posted on 08/15/2005 7:30:25 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: jla; WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Wolverine; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; ...

Heads up!!


38 posted on 08/15/2005 7:32:28 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Was the Narcissistic Joe Wilson a Source in "Outing" His Own Wife Valerie Plame as a "CIA Agent"?)
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To: taxesareforever

"He's a demorat. End of story."

You mispelled a word. It's "demonrat"


39 posted on 08/15/2005 7:35:09 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (The Democrat party is the official party of the Morlocks.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"You mispelled a word. It's "demonrat"

Whoops, mispelled = misspelled. spell check is your friend, spell check is your friend....
40 posted on 08/15/2005 7:39:14 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (The Democrat party is the official party of the Morlocks.)
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To: tall_tex
I can hope that this gets legs. I have not watched any news on TV today. Nothing on the radio news.

If Rush mentioned this I must have missed it.


Rush mentioned it on Friday, Aug 12. Over the weekend Olds Media along with a few credible observers raised doubts about Weldon's claims. So I'm biding my time reading The 9-11 Commission Report until Weldon produces more evidence.
41 posted on 08/15/2005 7:39:19 PM PDT by Milhous
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To: george76
Sandy Berger stole classified documents and destroyed some...Was he removing references to Able Danger? Someone should ask him before he is sentenced next month.

????
Why? Berger would only lie.

42 posted on 08/15/2005 7:41:45 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Milhous

Able Danger needs to come out of the cold and show their evidence.

Enough pussy-footing around and insinuation (that is what democrats do.)

Facts are what Republicans care about so they need to provide that now.


43 posted on 08/15/2005 7:43:56 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: CyberAnt

Rude and arrogant was only what I responded to being treated as I was by you. If that is not what you intended, then I apologize.

Second, I am fully behind the President, have been and need not prove my crednentials here.

Third, if President Bush did not want to keep Clinton in the limelight, why would he appoint him a point person for Tsunami relief? Why would the President take Clinton to Pope John Paul II's funeral, knowing that space was limited? Why would his father, granted not GWB himself, continue to be seen with this guy in public. I think it is a legitimate question to raise here and discuss.

While not having to act like a police commissioner, as you say, it is inherent that the President distance himself from Clinton and clean house of the individuals who Clinton appointed. As we have seen, keeping them around has only caused the President problems in the perception of the public when these useful idiots have launched their conspiracy theories and book signings afterward.

This is important, the stronger the President appears to the public, the stronger message he projects to the people that he is the right man for this crucial time in our history (which I agree that he is), the more leeway he will have to deal with foreign policy and do the right thing abroad without dealing with the anti-war, leftists here at home who are constantly banging the drum of "it's all Bush's fault." Hence, the importance of showing the public what really happened.

Finally, why use the word ignorance again? Because I can read the same information here and come to a different conclusion than you makes me ignorant? That, my friend, is not conservative or constructive.

Different strokes for different folks. But, in the end, its us against them is what I say.


44 posted on 08/15/2005 7:46:23 PM PDT by deputac
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To: ovrtaxt

You must understand .. in President Bush's position, he cannot afford to make such a mistake as dressing down or embarrassing someone in public. It's not only bad taste, it does more damage to Bush than to anyone else.

And .. if you're so sure Bush was lauding Tenant, you should read the transcript of Bush's speech to the Clintons when their official portraits were unveiled. If you really read what Bush said - knowing what we know about Clinton - it was all one great nuance - or diplo speak - exactly what the liberals said Bush was not capable of doing.

While all the liberals thought Bush was praising Clinton - I was laughing and laughing because the supposed great diplomats didn't catch on. It was too funny.

So .. I've said all that to explain that if you go back and read what Bush said to Tenant - I think you might be surprised to find out it was not the applause you thought it was.


45 posted on 08/15/2005 7:48:39 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: george76

Thanks for the great post.

Weldon was on Hannity today and said that the Able Danger folks would be coming out in a few days with their stories. He promised Hannity that one and perhaps all of them would be on his T.V. show. Said it was going to be a big story. He sounds intent on making certain the story gets told, and determined that these guys aren't destroyed in the process.


46 posted on 08/15/2005 7:51:28 PM PDT by LucyJo ("I have overcome the world." "Abide in Me." (John 16:33; 15:4)
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To: wvobiwan

ping


47 posted on 08/15/2005 7:55:17 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: airborne
From my recollection of the crime, federal investigators were actually tipped off to Burgler's activities while he was committing them. There was some indication that they began to monitor the materials that he was requesting from the Archives Center.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126428,00.html

"White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Wednesday that the Justice Department notified the office of White House legal counsel Alberto Gonzalez about the probe before news of it leaked to the media Monday.

"My understanding is that this investigation has been going on for several months and that some officials in our counsel's office were contacted as part of the investigation," McClellan told reporters. "The counsel's office is the one that is coordinating with the Sept. 11 commission the production of documents and since this relates to some documents, the counsel's office was contacted as part of that investigation."

The Justice Department is investigating whether Berger committed a crime by removing from the National Archives (search) copies of documents about the government's anti-terror efforts and notes that he took on those documents. Berger was reviewing the materials to help determine which Clinton administration documents to provide to the independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks."

48 posted on 08/15/2005 7:56:24 PM PDT by deputac
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To: CyberAnt

I agree with your view that the President must stay above the fray from these attacks.

But, the public needs to see what the MSM is failing to show them, that what we are in the midst today is due in part to the lack of action taken by the Clinton Administration. While I do not think that the President need do it himself, his subordinates should take charge in this instance.


49 posted on 08/15/2005 8:00:38 PM PDT by deputac
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To: Ann Archy

He's a professional politician. THEY ALL lie==left, right, good or bad.


50 posted on 08/15/2005 8:02:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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