Posted on 08/16/2005 11:23:20 AM PDT by woodb01
Lets see...the Sharpton crowd is in charge of the Dem party.
Are you saying the ID'ers are in charge of the Repub party?
Youre prob right.
Hey! I was pulling your leg with that one, expecting you to make a comment on the Devil as the "anti-God particle".
Humans naturally lean toward a 'supernatural' being, I guess as a part of the baggage of culture that accompanies his development. If there is a 'natural' tendency to lean toward a 'superior being', then why is it there are so many sharply conflicting and contrasting beliefs of that very 'superior' being? Are you going to attest that there could be more than one 'superior' being? You surely do see this leading to the road to perdition, don't you?
If God zotted us into existence then why didn't he create a perfect human being?
Jesus was perfect and loves you.
Why did God create cancer and other deseases in the first place?
Could He not test us in other ways?
Why do humans, and all other life, die at all? Why didn't God create a set of immortal creatures and be done with it. No need for that messy reproduction and stuff. Just think of all the parts He could save.
That would be a tragedy.
BTW: I have no problem with teaching ID, as long as it is kept out of Science Class and is relegated to Sunday School. Besides, why not teach all the other religions creation stories along with that of the Christians?
I have to admit that I do not recall ever having read a more ignorant, clownish, or unbelievably stupid thread than this one.
My god! It scares me, while at the same time amazes me, that my thoughts are EXACTLY reflected in that post of yours! I've always wanted to ask the same to many a persons.
Pray, are you my doppelganger?
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Interesting. I don't think I've heard it put quite this way before.
Individual posts have reached this depth, but considering the quantity we have here -- the sustained quantity -- I'm sure this thread, and it's lead article, have achieved the all-time record. It's a classic.
"Why do humans, and all other life, die at all? "
Why did God kill all the firstborn of Egypt?
"And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle." - Exodus 12:29
This piece is a nice summary on a few pages that ranges from the fact that someone climbed Mt. Everest to the claim that DNA demonstrates evolution impossible. Yeah, right.
Compare that to Ichumon's DNA post, where he assumes that everyone already knows that Mt Everest has been climbed, and starts right in explaining the mechanism of the smoking gun in DNA that proves a common ancestor between primates and humans.
The contrast between the two is just amazing. Propaganda vs. a genuine understanding of the science.
Nay, nay sirruh. I am that most feared of humans, a thoughtful, logical, questioning, human just as you apparently are. Besides I just like stirring the s**tpot periodically.
I can ask those questions because I believe in God and pray to Him at least twice a day, and rely upon Him for my very daily life.
I just know that he doesn't want blind obedience or slaves.
To all you Creationists out there...God gave you the brains (through evolution) try using them.
You are really freaking me out.
You just didn't get my point at all, did you?
I'll try again.
If God was perfect, then everything He did would be perfect. When God created imperfect humans and other creatures, it proves that God is not perfect (and strongly hints that maybe He's just a figment of your imagination).
When Christians stop pushing religion in public schools, then challenges to their beliefs will stop.
Evasionist claptrap. You are not perfect, why not?
These are excellent questions - I've pondered them before and have a working theory based on, yes, evolution:
1. The reason we care to live is that we are descendents of organisms that developed defense mechanisms in order to avoid predation by other organisms. Imagine the immense competitive advantage afforded to the first organisms that developed the ability to prey on other organisms as a means of gaining energy.
Until a random mutation occurred that provided a form of defense, there was no reason for any organism to 'care' whether or not it survived. Once it developed, however, it in turn gave organisms such a competive advantage that those traits can be found in every living organism today (plant or animal).
We can see firsthand how the survival instinct is deeply seated: try to capture and kill a fly; notice its desire to escape and survive. It obviously can't think, so why does it care? Because its genes are pre-programmed to 'care', no differently than ours.
2. The reason we care to explore, think and debate is also based on evolution. At some point long ago, human development became predicated on intelligence. This does not come without a cost; the energy requirements to fuel our brains is many times higher than pure physical brawn.
However, once that evolutionary path was followed (ie intelligence traits were passed down through generations of successful ancestors), we became dependent on thought for our very survival. Over time, a small percentage of the population (through purely random mutation and then selective breeding) became extremely intelligent, to the point that they possessed the ability to address (and attempt to answer) difficult philosphical and scientific questions.
People who care about science have as much ability to ignore discovery and thought as they have the ability to fly. That is, they have no choice - it's in their genes, which are themselves present due to succcessful survival strategies based on intelligence that were developed millions of years ago.
Yeah, why isn't life a multiple choice test instead of an essay?
Hey who shuffled them, that's what I'd like to know?
can you say RAW DEAL?
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