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Arrest Made in Possible Terror Plot (for possible 24 S.Cal. locations)
LA Times/KTLA ^ | 8-16-05 | Greg Krikorian

Posted on 08/16/2005 9:19:20 PM PDT by STARWISE

FBI probe uncovers a list of potential Southland targets and suggests a connection between prison groups and Islamic extremists.

A Pakistani national has been arrested by authorities in connection with a far-reaching investigation of a possible terrorist plot targeting any of nearly two dozen locations in Southern California, including National Guard recruitment centers, law enforcement sources said Monday.

The suspect, identified as Hamad Riaz Samana, 21, of Los Angeles, was quietly taken into custody last week by counter-terrorism officials as part of a probe that began with the arrest of two men in Torrance suspected of robbing gas stations. The investigation, sources said, has involved more than 100 FBI agents and Los Angeles police detectives as well as counter-terrorism specialists with other federal and local agencies.

While little is known publicly about the JIS, as intelligence officials call it, the group has been around for several years and has a presence at Folsom State Prison, where one of the three men in custody, Levar Haney Washington, 25, served time for assault and robbery, according to law enforcement sources.

The JIS is only one of the prison-based groups being investigated for possible ties to Islamic extremists.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; blackmuslims; captured; folsom; hamadriazsamana; islam; jihadinamerica; jis; nationofislam; pakistani; prisons; scal; terrorists
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Heads up, S. Cal. FReepers!
1 posted on 08/16/2005 9:19:25 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: Brad's Gramma; SoCalPol; NordP

Pingarooni!!


2 posted on 08/16/2005 9:20:06 PM PDT by STARWISE (GITMO IS TOO GOOD FOR THESE TRAITORS -- SEND THEM ALL TO EGYPT FOR QUESTIONING.)
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To: STARWISE

So much for rehabilitation. Sounds like prisons are becoming the recruitment centers for muslims.


3 posted on 08/16/2005 9:23:26 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: STARWISE
[FBI probe uncovers a list of potential Southland targets and suggests a connection between prison groups and Islamic extremists.]

I'd be interested in this "prison group" angle. I have my suspicions. For example, how many of these murderous lunatic scumbags are Muslim converts. Next, how many of these murderous lunatic scumbags are on "parole" (= get out of jail free cards)? Parole should be eliminated for all Muslims. EOS.

4 posted on 08/16/2005 9:26:20 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Crush! Kill! Destroy the heathen!)
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To: STARWISE
"But the documents allegedly recovered from Washington's apartment, sources say, strongly suggest the men may have been planning an attack that could have unfolded in a matter of weeks"

W-O-W! What if the robbers hadn't been caught?

5 posted on 08/16/2005 9:30:15 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Simply eliminate parole. We've done that in Virginia and it's worked wonders.


6 posted on 08/16/2005 9:30:56 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: STARWISE

These guys, while the whole thing IS scary, were not exactly rocket scientists in their plans.


7 posted on 08/16/2005 9:31:19 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: STARWISE

Prisons have been recruiting grounds for Muslem terrorists for some time now. I thought it was common knowledge.


8 posted on 08/16/2005 9:31:38 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

What a perfect place to recruit terrorists though.
Men incarcerated with a huge chip on their shoulder against our society for the predictament they are in.

Hateful angry people need a cause too.

Prisons are ripe for the picking.


9 posted on 08/16/2005 9:32:17 PM PDT by oceanperch (Central Oregon Coast Rocks! Pride of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: STARWISE

Related article:

Terror Plot Hatched in California Prison--Authorities Thwart Attack Intended for Next Month

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1464766/posts


10 posted on 08/16/2005 9:32:43 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: STARWISE

They were Pelosi's 'pool boys'.


11 posted on 08/16/2005 9:33:06 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I remember Roy Innis sounding the alarm on this Muslim/Prison problem soon after Sept 11th.


12 posted on 08/16/2005 9:33:40 PM PDT by headstamp
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To: STARWISE
a far-reaching investigation of a possible terrorist plot targeting any of nearly two dozen locations in Southern California, including National Guard recruitment centers

The National Guard armories and recruiting offices are normally manned by only a couple unarmed people; and most armories have weapons storage for pistols, rifles, grenade launchers, and light/medium machineguns--great targets for terrorists.

13 posted on 08/16/2005 9:34:19 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: oceanperch

Funded by Saudi's, and encouraged by most states. Approved at the federal BOP as well.


14 posted on 08/16/2005 9:35:40 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocity of 11 Sept.)
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To: oceanperch

This is an article from the UK, but it probably applies to the US also.

Our prisons are fertile ground for cultivating suicide bombers

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-1713671,00.html


TWO OF Britain’s bombers, Richard Reid and Muktar Said-Ibrahim, converted or reconverted to Islam in prison. This is a very small number, of course, but as we have just seen, it does not take large numbers of such people to effect a huge change in a country’s atmosphere. And the omens for the emergence of more of them are not good.

First, the number of Muslim prisoners has risen sixfold over the past 15 years. With more than 4,000 such inmates they make up 70 per cent of prisoners from minority groups. They are mostly of Pakistani descent, and the relative absence of people of subcontinental origin who follow other religions is equally striking.

Secondly, Islamic proselytising is prevalent in our prisons. An outside observer might conclude from the religious literature that he sees there that Britain is more an Islamic than a Christian country. I was often surprised on entering a cell in the prison in which I worked to discover a booklet with a title such as The Basic Teachings of Islam. More often than not, this will be the prisoner’s first experience of reading abstract principles.


15 posted on 08/16/2005 9:35:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: BurbankKarl; lainie; Ernest_at_the_Beach; A CA Guy

S. California Ping.


16 posted on 08/16/2005 9:36:01 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Tolik; Squantos; tiamat; CHARLITE; Travis McGee

ping


17 posted on 08/16/2005 9:36:19 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: STARWISE

I heard on tv news while working that Intelligence sources for Homeland Defense or was it Homeland Security stated that Gas Tankers are going to be used as suicide tankers before Sept. 19th in multiple areas in major cities acroos the US at one time.
The aim is to bring down the economy.

Maybe I read it here. Don't remember.
IMO when the threat is leaked it usually proves false.


18 posted on 08/16/2005 9:37:18 PM PDT by oceanperch (Central Oregon Coast Rocks! Pride of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: Brad's Gramma; STARWISE

One of them had worked in a duty-free shop at LAX and had no criminal record. Good thing they caught him.


19 posted on 08/16/2005 9:39:46 PM PDT by bd476
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To: muawiyah

Agreed. Ten years should be ten years. IMO, the parole system leaves in the mind of the criminal the perspective that, if caught, they might only serve a fraction of the actual sentence. If every burglar knew that they would serve ten years minimum, guaranteed, there would be far fewer burglaries.


20 posted on 08/16/2005 9:42:39 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Crush! Kill! Destroy the heathen!)
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To: taxesareforever
Sounds like prisons are becoming the recruitment centers for muslims.

And they have been for years. IIRC, that was where "Jose Padilla" was recruited.

Mark

21 posted on 08/16/2005 9:42:49 PM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: bd476

Was he the one who was waiting his 10 days to cool off (ahem!) before he could get his gun?


22 posted on 08/16/2005 9:43:18 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: MarkL
It's believed Jose Padilla was recruited in prison. On the other hand, Gilbert Colon, presently wanted on an outstanding warrant for involvement in Clinton's campaign finance scandal lived directly across the street from the location where Imir Kansi used to repair taxicab brakes for his Islamofascist/AlQaida friends.

I'd guess there's another, "outside the prison" recruiting system in place for finding Puerto Rican terrorist candidates.

Wouldn't look much further than the DNC that employed Gilbert.

23 posted on 08/16/2005 9:45:57 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: oceanperch
What a perfect place to recruit terrorists though. Men incarcerated with a huge chip on their shoulder against our society for the predictament they are in. Hateful angry people need a cause too. Prisons are ripe for the picking.

Time to step up the Prison Ministries for the GOOD SIDE!

http://www.pfm.org

25 posted on 08/16/2005 9:47:52 PM PDT by Nice50BMG (3 books to read this year: The Bible (God), Bringing Up Boys (Dobson), Winning the Future (Newt))
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To: STARWISE; All

WHOA this remind me of episode of OZ remember that HBO prison drama


26 posted on 08/16/2005 9:49:37 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody in, it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"= Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: SevenofNine

First thing that crossed my mind when I read the Article.


27 posted on 08/16/2005 9:51:34 PM PDT by oceanperch (Central Oregon Coast Rocks! Pride of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: Nice50BMG

Amen to that!


28 posted on 08/16/2005 9:52:17 PM PDT by oceanperch (Central Oregon Coast Rocks! Pride of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: muawiyah

Yes, and eliminate communication privledges while you're at it.


29 posted on 08/16/2005 9:55:56 PM PDT by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: King Prout; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee

If this was indeed a solid chapter of Jimiyat Islam Sahid's terrorists group then we got a intelligence gem....

Break out the chicago phone books and lets drain this brain....


30 posted on 08/16/2005 10:19:14 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: King Prout

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1443764/posts


31 posted on 08/16/2005 10:21:54 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: STARWISE
...between prison groups and Islamic extremists.

Reminds me of Richard Pryor's observations while visiting a prison that went something like:

"In prison you have all these groups. You've got the Mao Maos, Muslims...double Muslims. Those are $#!@ you have to watch out for there...those double Muslims. Because those $!@# can't wait to get to Allah...and take a few hundred @!$* with them."

32 posted on 08/16/2005 10:25:35 PM PDT by Rokurota (.)
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To: Squantos

thanks. are these bozos tied to that radical imam who now says he will not fight deportation to Pakistan?


33 posted on 08/16/2005 10:52:58 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: FairOpinion

And we have all these stinking anti-American liberals in our state house and they will DO NOTHING ABOUT THIS.


34 posted on 08/16/2005 10:53:04 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: devolve

35 posted on 08/16/2005 10:55:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: mark502inf

The NG here in San Diego has tanks and all kinds of heavily armored vehicles. Remember when that nut stole the tank frim the NG and drove all over town smashing up all sorts of stuff. It ended up a CHP officer had to shoot the guy.


36 posted on 08/16/2005 10:56:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: oceanperch

I think the threat originated in the UK and they had some pretty specific info .. so I think our people are just trying to make truckers and others aware of the potential.

It's really scary to me because my son drives a cross-country truck - but at least it's not a gas tanker.


37 posted on 08/16/2005 11:02:17 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: muawiyah

There's NO parole in Virginia????


38 posted on 08/16/2005 11:03:57 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (I lost my copy of the PNAC Neo-Con agenda. Can someone fax me one?)
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To: Travis McGee; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; Smartass; DoughtyOne; Czar; Boazo; ...



Looks good - spacing & height seem fine

That should thrill the sleepers

Timing is everything



FOI/A-Q bump


39 posted on 08/16/2005 11:11:31 PM PDT by devolve (------- http://tinypic.com/a47v9u.gif --American Immigration ---- Good-Bad-or-Ugly?-- -)
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To: Squantos
Jimiyat Islam Sahid

Are they an Nation of Islam offshoot?

40 posted on 08/16/2005 11:18:29 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo; King Prout

Could be but not to my knowledge.....they are recruiting CRIPS so Calypso Louie could be connected....


41 posted on 08/16/2005 11:24:08 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: bd476

Thanks for the alert!


42 posted on 08/16/2005 11:39:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp

ping!


43 posted on 08/16/2005 11:43:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: brushcop

gas the whole prison


44 posted on 08/17/2005 1:31:23 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: STARWISE
While little is known publicly about the JIS

And JIS is the acronym for?????????????????

Some may know what JIS stands for, but please translate your acronyms for the rest of us.
45 posted on 08/17/2005 1:56:17 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: muawiyah
Simply eliminate parole. We've done that in Virginia and it's worked wonders.

Its common practice in Los Angeles County to release prisoners early due to overcrowding. It 'works wonders' if you are a criminal.

46 posted on 08/17/2005 3:10:31 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Beckwith
Jimiyat Islam Sahid

'Twas in post #30, but you're right. The author should've felt constrained to give us that full name when he introduced the acronym.

HF

47 posted on 08/17/2005 3:15:53 AM PDT by holden (holden awnuhnuh truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: STARWISE

Yeah, but I thought Osama said the blue states were going to be safe...


48 posted on 08/17/2005 3:35:08 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: bnelson44
A female black friend of ours asked rhetorically 20 years ago, "What is it with all these guys that end up on the hill for some stupid crime and all of a sudden they don't eat damn pork chops anymore?"
49 posted on 08/17/2005 3:55:04 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: snidely whiplash III

Ping


50 posted on 08/17/2005 4:35:11 AM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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