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City of Moorpark blocking anti-Illegal Immigration Forum
Simi Valley-Moorpark Republican Assembly ^ | August 16, 2005 | Andy Ramirez

Posted on 08/16/2005 9:35:13 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Please read the letter below. Please call your State legislators and ask them to help resolve this Constitutional injustice.

The name of the person who is turning us down at Moorpark City Hall is Mary Lindley, Head of Parks and Recreation for the City of Moorpark. Direct phone number phone (805) 517-6216. General phone number (805) 517-6200.

Talks have stopped between the Moorpark/Simi Valley Republican Assembly and the City of Moorpark. As of this time, the event in Moorpark is very much in question. More as it develops.

Freeman Sawyer... (805) 484-5622

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This letter was sent out by Andy Ramirez, Friends of the Border Patrol:

Dear Friends,

Our right to assemble and discuss the security of our nation is being abridged by the City of Moorpark, California.

I was invited by the Simi Valley/Moorpark Republican Assembly to speak in Moorpark this Saturday, August 20, 2005 from 1-3pm. The SVMRA has reserved facilities at City Hall in order to provide me an opportunity to come and speak before my fellow concerned citizens.

Their President, Mr. Darin Henry contacted me earlier today with the following problem. He was informed by the City of Moorpark that they required an unreasonable amount for a security deposit, that being in the amount of $5,000. He asked me to contact "Mary" to discuss this further. I did so and informed her that we have not had any incidents at any of my speaking engagements anywhere in SD County and I was not personally requesting additional security. I had contacted Captain Richard Diaz of the Ventura County Sheriff's Department's Moorpark Station as a courtesy call to alert him to my speaking engagement. He indicated that they would have a couple of deputies keep an eye on the event, but that was it. We'd not have any additional security inside the building. If there was a problem, he gave me a telephone number and of course suggested 911. Again, I did not request any additional security for the event.

However, Mary at Moorpark City Hall stated to both Mr. Henry and myself that they needed a $5k deposit for security for additional manpower. She further stated that they only had three deputies on duty and that if any were detailed to keep watch on the SVMRA event, she'd have to request additional deputies and that would increase city costs for their security. I informed her as I had Captain Diaz that I'd not requested any additional security. However, she was rather adament and informed me that we'd be on our own as a result.

What this says is that if an unruly mob such as we have seen in San Diego County led by Enrique Morones would suddenly show up, anything could happen. How is it that our rights to assemble and hold a community meeting can be abridged by a lawless mob seeking to intimidate and use terror tactics on our fellow citizens? This is wrong and we cannot allow this to take place anywhere. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

Has our government abandoned this fight and let the lawless take over our nation? Are our soldiers giving up their lives overseas in the name of freedom elsewhere, while here at home our rights are abridged by domestic terrorism? We cannot ever lose this battle, and I call upon each of you to ask for your help and assistance so that this great citizens organization not be abridged of their right to hold a meeting and address an issue of great concern, this being U.S. Border Security by terror tactics and intimidation.

Since April 19, 2005 when it was first reported that Friends of the Border Patrol was first going to launch an operation to secure the Southern California border, we have not have any incidents whatsoever at any location. This is a fact that can be verified by the San Diego Police Department and San Diego Sheriff's Office. Again, zero incidents at any of my speaking events.

I ask that you step forward to assist this great organization that is simply exercising their right to free speech and hold a community meeting. We cannot let the Enrique Morones' of this world take away our basic constitutional rights domestic terror tactics and intimidation. When you look at that $5,000 amount, it is outrageous and tantamount to extortion. If those protestors knew how to protest peacefully, and without incident, you'd find that such monetary demands would not be possible. However, this is all the opposition knows how to do, and that is to abridge our rights and freedoms by terror tactics.

I will be in Sacramento Tuesday and Wednesday addressing this issue. Please contact Darin Henry, President of the SVMRA at 805-657-3895 and help support our fellow Americans that are simply trying to discuss these important issues via a community meeting in an American city.

Respectfully, Andy Ramirez, Chairman Friends of the Border Patrol


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; minutemanproject; publicforum
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1 posted on 08/16/2005 9:35:14 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

You can bet your a-- they'd charge leftist protesters for additional police presence necessitated by them. Yeah, right!


2 posted on 08/16/2005 9:45:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Bernard Marx; pacpam; hoppity; MayflowerMadam; capitan_refugio; Kviteseid; Val E. Girl; merry10; ...

Busy day for Ventura County Ping!


3 posted on 08/16/2005 9:56:02 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: DogByte6RER
What this says is that if an unruly mob such as we have seen in San Diego County led by Enrique Morones would suddenly show up, anything could happen. How is it that our rights to assemble and hold a community meeting can be abridged by a lawless mob seeking to intimidate and use terror tactics on our fellow citizens?

Good question.

Has our government abandoned this fight and let the lawless take over our nation?

It seems when it comes to this issue, they have.

4 posted on 08/16/2005 10:04:05 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: DogByte6RER
They're being intimidated by Latin thugs?


5 posted on 08/16/2005 10:11:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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To: DogByte6RER
When you look at that $5,000 amount, it is outrageous and tantamount to extortion.

$5,000 doesn't seem to be a outrageous sum considering the probable counter demonstration. Andy Ramirez says "we have not have any incidents whatsoever at any location," but he fails to say if these locations refer to previous rallies.

If "Friends of the Border Patrol" have had previous rallies then it would have been wise to list them and reference the fact that other locations only charged a pittance or nothing at all...if this was the case. Andy Ramirez neglects to mention this information so an informed reader can make the judgment he wants us to make...IE the powers that be are keeping him down.

The fact that he can't raise $5,000 is very telling.

6 posted on 08/16/2005 10:24:01 PM PDT by Once-Ler (16 months til Byrd is ousted from office, and Kennedy ain't getin younger)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Actually, there is a more realistic photo circulating somewhere around here. It's not quite as humorous as the one you put up.


7 posted on 08/16/2005 10:26:18 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: DogByte6RER

The U.S. has the misfortune of being wider than it is tall.


8 posted on 08/16/2005 10:28:58 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Rabid Dog

ping


9 posted on 08/16/2005 10:47:10 PM PDT by KittyKares
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To: DogByte6RER
However, she (Mary Lindley) was rather adament and informed me that we'd be on our own as a result.

This is a blatant threat coming from a city official. In other words if the meeting goes ahead without paying $5K protection $$$'s to the city and these thugs show up and create trouble, the city will not enforce laws protecting peaceful assembly. Sounds to me like Mary Lindley is in bed with the thugs and needs to be removed from her position.

10 posted on 08/16/2005 10:57:04 PM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: Once-Ler; dalereed; onyx; kellynla; gubamyster; HiJinx; Happy2BMe
It figures you would back the side of the La Raza/MEChA fascist goon squads who use threats of violence to cut off free speech and the right of assembly.


11 posted on 08/16/2005 11:14:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: kimosabe31
Mary Lindley needs to contact the Carlsbad officials who also tried to use the threat of possible La Raza/Mecha goon squad violence to cancel a peaceable assembly.

Carlsbad caved in 48 hours, when the blatant unconstitutionality of acceding to the "heckler's veto" was made clear to them.

IOW, it's not the responsibility of the victims of threatened violence to pay for extra security in advance. It's the responsibility of the police to protect the peaceful and law abiding, and arrest the violent goons who try to cut off free speech with intimidation tactics.

12 posted on 08/16/2005 11:18:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Black Tooth
These were the demonstrators who tried to stop the Carlsbad illegal immigration forum from taking place last week.

They represent the true face of the Open Borders Lobby.

This guy equates Old Glory with a Nazi Swastika.

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Neo-Communists still peddling "workers of the world unite!"

Image Hosted by ImageShack.us Note the black and white Palestinian pro-terrorost jihad kefiya scarf.

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13 posted on 08/16/2005 11:31:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: kimosabe31

That policy didn't fly in Carlsbad last week.


14 posted on 08/16/2005 11:34:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

Yeah, I'd say those images depict it quite well.


15 posted on 08/16/2005 11:49:08 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: DogByte6RER
I live next door in Simi Valley, but if I wanted to hire illegals, Moorpark is the place I'd go. In Moorpark you can get them by the dozen hundreds as they hang out openly by certain street corners and markets.
16 posted on 08/17/2005 7:22:00 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Travis McGee; DogByte6RER
It's the responsibility of the police to protect the peaceful and law abiding, and arrest the violent goons who try to cut off free speech with intimidation tactics.

Exactly. The people of Moorepark, and of Ventura County already pay for exactly the sort of law enforcement services that the city is trying to double-charge for in this case.

From the city web page, it looks like Mary Lindley would report to the city manager, Steven Keuny. I'm sure Steve would appreciate polite e-mails at: skeuny@ci.moorepark.ca.us.
The city's web page is at:
http://ci.moorpark.ca.us/

17 posted on 08/17/2005 7:47:43 AM PDT by absalom01 (NRA,CRPA)
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To: Rabid Dog

What do other cities charge to hold a citizens' meeting in their halls?


18 posted on 08/17/2005 7:48:52 AM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Snap on and don't let go!)
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To: Travis McGee


That goofball in the first pic is truly representative of their side. Bet he gets a gov't check every month.


19 posted on 08/17/2005 8:52:56 AM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: onyx; Black Tooth
Those pictures of the Open Borders Lobby at Carlsbad seem to act like "Off!" in keeping our own OBLs away from a thread.

Sort of like Holy Water and Satan.

20 posted on 08/17/2005 9:22:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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