Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15

Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

[alice_in_bubbaland]

I think when it comes to PVDS the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" theory is the most plausable. IMO,He's just a smarmy two bit character trying to play with the big boys for a piece of the action.

[cherry]

the Holloway case HAS been over reported and I can almost hear the groans from my family alone when I tune into Nancy Grace or Greta and that's what they're covering.....

its a sad and disquieting story, and I feel that Nat's murder.....yes, murder....will never be avenged.....

the world keeps turning.....and there are new stories every day to become obsessed with....

I know the MSM wants us to get really really into the groom story, but somehow, I just can't get into that story......

[Dolphy]

Here's an article about PVDS.

[Dolphy]

I think you may be underestimating PVDS.....I am naturally suspicious and cynical.

I could well be underestimating him...but I am naturally suspicious and cynical :)

You touch on some really interesting conflicts/power struggles that I think exist between the Netherlands and Aruba. It's my guess that one faction, as represented by Jossy, want more independence from the Netherlands. I don't know how guts like PVDS fit in...if they come as eyes and ears or to get on the gravy train.

[TexKat]

Bump!!

[TexKat]

Tks stlnative.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

principles, LOL

from the link you posted:


Van der Sloot, persistent lawyer with principles

The lawyer Paul van der Sloot, that is detained in Aruba in the Natalee Holloway affair, is here mostly known for his 20-year-long fight against the building of a motorway around Boxtel.

Boxtel

Paul van der Sloot is indeed member of a brassband and he goes all out during the carnival, but in Aruba, he is mostly known as the serious lawyer for whom the principles of justice always and everywhere comes in first place. There was a huge disbelief in Aruba when he was arrested for his alleged involvement in disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Boxtel had experienced him as someone who would always persevere and had a thorough manner of working. Paul van der Sloot fought twenty years long (from 1973 until 1993) with local residents against the construction of a southern motorway, that had to go partly over the estate of the Van der Sloot family. Paul van der Sloot stood his ground and fought civil servants and politicians that had proposed and produced the faulty plans for the new motorway in the Cousil of State. The motorway came eventually but it was not laid through the scenic valuable territory anymore but further away. In his birthplace Boxtel, van der Sloot was criticized a lot because while he was fighting the developments of the new motorway, the dangerous traffic was still led trough Boxtel and this was causing accidents and consequently was costing the lives of many people. Van der Sloot was seen as a fault-finder that to prevent the motorway to be build on part of his land , was willing to sacrifice the lives of the youth who attended the schools in the vicinity of the local dangerous streets. Van der Sloot said later on that the criticism hurt him deeply..

Tilburg

Van der Sloot (53) got his legal education at the University of Tilburg in the seventies. He co-founded the Legal Faculty Association Tilburg and also the faculty newspaper ‘Nondejure'. After he finished his studies he did not went to work for the government, but assisted citizens that had conflicts with the government. It was in that period in Arnhem, where he met a woman Anita (teacher of Artistic Formation) and it was also there were Joran and Valentijn, two of his three suns, were born.

New job

In 1991 Paul van der Sloot thought it was the time for a new job and he found one in Aruba where he was appointed for five year as lawyer for the Aruban government. The ministers were not impressed with his stance „I always first try to find a compromise. By simply prosecuting nobody gets wiser. If the authorities do something wrong I will always admit that. You must never interpret the facts differently then what they are. I am convinced that on the long run this will give better results“, According to Van der Sloot in an interview ten years ago in the Brabants Nieuwsblad. After a while Van der Sloot got a different assigment: the government wanted him to only set up contracts. Van der Sloot considered going back to The Netherlands, but he liked the small scale of Aruba and as it appeared he had enough possibilities to continue with his career. He became cabinets leader for the public ministry and gave classes of Administrative Law at the local university.

Judge

Two years ago Van der Sloot got the opportunity to become a judge. With his background that meant that he had follow a training course of three years. During that training period, he was appointed as a substitute judge in the Antillean court. Van der Sloot completed the training period of a year in the Netherlands recently but he has not conducted a court(hearing) yet.
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Translation by HASIBOKOS.COM of an article by Brabants Dagblad published on Monday 27th of June. The original article in Dutch can be found HERE.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

lots of kids got killed because he didn't want the freeway to run thru his property.....that IS what it says, isn't it?

[Dolphy]

LOL, yes that's what it says. A man of principle is he. And another window to the man's soul?

"I always first try to find a compromise. By simply prosecuting nobody gets wiser...You must never interpret the facts differently then what they are."

Probably because there is so little information available, this statement has stuck in my mind a long while when considering how his head might work if his son called him about an accidental death.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

Rusty thanks to Dolphy's link I used "brabants dagblad" and "van der sloot" as search terms......

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22brabants+dagblad%22+%22van+der+sloot%22&btnG=Google+Search

Results 1 - 10 of about 92 for "brabants dagblad" "van der sloot". (0.24 seconds)
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here is a translator that does dutch to english fairly well.....but you will notice that the results lapse back into dutch after a couple of paragraphs, so you will need to do some cutting and resetting it to do them completely. Click "clear" to reset it.....

a few of the results on google are already in english

[alice_in_bubbaland]

Found this posted on websleuths.com

Please read 3rd paragraph: Does this need further investigation??

http://websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-27523

SoloFlyer
It would be nice if the Dutch did not have such secret records and you could find out more information about known criminals if this is true. What a scary thought that so many of these Dutch territories do not imprison criminals they just send them to a different territory to continue their crimes.

VanDerStraaten was sent to Holland when he should be in an Aruban jail facing serious corruption, misuse of powers and complicity in the coverup of a murder charges. Not to mention the coersion, threats and intimidation used against witnesses.

Paulus was sent to Aruba after his disastrous road kill project which cost the lives of many school children. Then he moved to Aruba to be a Judge of instruction or judge-in-training (just like the one that released him and the Kalpoes) and "mysteriously lost" all of the evidence related to a Major prison abuse trial. His punishment was to return to Holland for more training before he could apply to be a "real" judge which was eventually turned down. Something stinks about the way these crimes are being handled with kit gloves and the super secret hiding of the details. :furious:

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

translator link I forgot to put in the preceding post:

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

well, we're at least making some progress here, yes?

VDS is a selfcentered little prick just like his son....I wonder how far back this aristocratic van der sloot family history goes wrt aruba? Perhaps we will find out!

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

lets dig this dirty fkr out of his stinking hole!

[looney tune]

Bookmark bump

[Dolphy]

Yes, I think we are getting somewhere. There was a reason the security guard said something about them all burning in hot lava.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

so this means that "dirty hand" is PVDS? And Jossy surely knows all of this....so he's one of them too.....and I'll bet there are some Americans caught up in this too.....this guy not only calls markers, but he's got the goods on his cohorts, too!

[alice_in_bubbaland]

Coming up w/nada on subsequent searches for the lost files on the Prison Abuse case.

Time to say goodnight, I'll check some more in the AM.

[rolling_stone]

Did anyone see the teaser on Fox about OReilly going to have the parents of a girl JVDS dated on and they want everyone to know somethings about him?..sounds interesting (teaser) could be a big letdown nothing...

[Rusty Roberts]

Thanks Vn, this will definately help. I did find many on google in English as you said, but still not deep background enough for me.

I will continue my project with you aid.

Thanks again.