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Unusual recruits: Ivy Leaguers and honor students are signing up to serve
World Magazine ^ | 8/18/05 | Lynn Vincent

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:07:58 AM PDT by ZGuy

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To: ZGuy

The liberal elites show their ignorance of all things military when they say that enlisted personnel are the bottom of the barrel. During my army career I served with many enlisted soldiers who were college graduates. Some of them had advanced degrees. They all had different reasons for serving, but they had one thing in common: they were outstanding soldiers.

The military-ignorant elitists have probably never heard of the Defense Language Institute, located at the Presidio of Monterey, California. Military personnel, BOTH OFFICER AND ENLISTED, are sent to DLI to learn foreign languages, which they will use in various military occupational specialties. The soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines study Chinese, Korean, Arabic, Russian, and many other languages. It takes intelligence and mental stamina to last through the language courses, some of which last a year or more. On top of that, the soldiers have to keep current in their basic soldier skills while going through their language courses. I doubt if Bill Maher and his goofy Hollywood friends could make it through the first day.


21 posted on 08/19/2005 7:53:47 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: highlymotivated

I also believe that abortion is working for us
Much much more abortion are done by Libs sluts than Red Americans galls


22 posted on 08/19/2005 7:54:49 AM PDT by 1903A3
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To: mark502inf
The last time dregs were accepted was during the a demo rat administration, McNamara's 100,000 when they brought cat IV's in.

Seems like the demo rats want to do that again to get rid of the societal rejects.

23 posted on 08/19/2005 7:56:33 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: ZGuy

Leftists love to stereotype our military with the Losers label. Like these kids my elder son is very bright (95 percentile on ACT, etc) has a BA in Computer Science and is finishing the Navy Nuke training Sept. 18th. I am proud as punch of his decision and his achievement and could not have selected a better course for him.

Have I mentioned I despise Leftist liars and their enablers/defenders in the RATmedia?


24 posted on 08/19/2005 7:57:59 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: CasearianDaoist

Chicago's mayor Daley's oldest son, Patrick, has just finished Special Forces boot camp. He had just received his MBA from the University of Chicago (a license to print money particularly with his family connections) and had his father's approval to take this step.

These cases may not be so isolated.


25 posted on 08/19/2005 8:04:12 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: dts32041
Unlike the baby boomers, who allowed 2 million plus to be murdered and another 30 years of darkness on the world, aided and abetted by the likes of teddy the swimmer and jimmy the peanut.

That's too broad a generalization. I'm a so-called "baby boomer" and I've done nothing to kill people nor ever voted for anybody but conservatives since my first election when I voted for Reagan.

Conservatives tend to see individuals first. Liberals however tend to have groups as the unit of discussion. Let's leave the pop sociology group think for the other side.

26 posted on 08/19/2005 8:06:59 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: 1903A3

Agreed. I would like to see an objective study on the liberals kids who are raised in permissive homes vice disciplined ones and how they end up. A quick glance at the kids of the limosuine liberals in Hollyweird shows that they end up living pretty poorly. Rehab, rehab, and more rehab.


27 posted on 08/19/2005 8:08:52 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I did not know that, this case is particularly surprising to me.


28 posted on 08/19/2005 8:10:14 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: kb2614
comedian Bill Maher used the occasion to reinforce the stereotype that America scrapes its military from the bottom of the population barrel.

naaah. that's where they get comedians. a visit to any comedy club will prove that.

29 posted on 08/19/2005 8:10:21 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (see my FR page for a link to the tribute to Terri Schaivo, a short video presentation.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

You have every right to be proud of your son. He sounds like a very intelligent young man, the kind who will go far in the Navy.

Two years ago Miramax released a film with the title of "Buffalo Soldiers." The film was set in Germany at the end of the Cold War, and portrayed soldiers as criminals, high-school dropouts, and drug abusers. It was all a lie. I know, because I was serving in Germany at that time. Our soldiers were honest, well-educated, and drug-free. On top of that, the film hijacked the name of a proud group of African-American cavalry troopers who served on the frontier during the Indian Wars. Fortunately, the American public was not taken in by the garbage, and the film died a quick death at the box office.

I would love to see Bill Maher and a platoon of his Hollywood friends try to make it through basic training. Any bets on how long they would last?


30 posted on 08/19/2005 8:11:35 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: CasearianDaoist

One thing I've noticed - every other generation seems to have the same convictions. We had the 'greatest generation' in WWII vets, then we had guys who were serving in Korea, and then in 'Nam, (regardless of the Media creations), who served their country in all the various forms admirably. We had the hippies in the 60's, and the punkers of the 70's, but it seems the generation I'm from (born in 70), seem to have remembered to join up, and we did pretty well in the Gulf War, Panama, and the like.

Now, the generation "after" mine, appears to be harkening back to my parents, which is nice to see. I TRY to live like them, with their ideals, (they weren't very counter-culture/hippie back in the day). I just worked with alot of the young Army guys with 4ID and 3rd ACR, and they are (for the most part) bright, dedicated, conscientious group of 18-25 year olds I can think of.

The media still portrays everything as a "DOOM AND GLOOM", because they feel that's what 'sells'. But ya know what, it ain't that way anymore. People are tired of hearing about some dumba$$ who shot 3 people at the local mall, or stole a truck and made a 100 MPH highway chase. People want to hear GOOD news. I predict if the news shows would do stories about GOOD things happening in the world, not the death, rapes, thefts, etc, their ratings would be higher than the 'regular' crap.


31 posted on 08/19/2005 8:17:53 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: billnaz
They would be whining from the get go as soon as the withdrawal symptoms started. I know of no more loathsome people than the Hollywood "elite" or scum.
32 posted on 08/19/2005 8:21:37 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: ZGuy

A guardsman at work returned this past spring from a year in Iraq as member of some kind of recon group. Kinda tough on a family where the breadwinner brings home about 75k a year only to drop down to military pay.......Mortgages, insurance payments, bills and kids don't get put on hold while a soldier is pulling active duty.


33 posted on 08/19/2005 8:27:03 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (What is a homosexual Islamic Jihadist going to do with 72 virgins? Can he give them away?)
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To: ZGuy
New York Times reporter Chris Hedges said the nation's fighting forces are made up mostly of "poor kids from Mississippi or Alabama or Texas who could not get a decent job or health insurance and joined the Army because it was all we offered them."

I'd like to see him say that to their faces!

34 posted on 08/19/2005 8:29:35 AM PDT by SuziQ
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I would love to see Bill Maher and a platoon of his Hollywood friends try to make it through basic training. Any bets on how long they would last?

At Parris Island? In the heat of an SC summer? With swarms of skeeters, fire ants, and sand fleas (I shiver in fear), they would not make it past training day 10, IF they even got out of Receiving! It would make a GREAT Reality Show. "Limo Liberals join the Corps!" Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahaah!
35 posted on 08/19/2005 8:32:21 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: highlymotivated
Also, I've often wondered if abortion, and the liberals propensity for getting them, has led to a drop in THEIR demographics, while ours climbs.

Yep! The libs are victims of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

36 posted on 08/19/2005 8:33:55 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: ZGuy

Why is this unusual? Lefties are wrong about everything else. Why would they think smart people wouldn't know what's at stake?


37 posted on 08/19/2005 8:35:52 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: mark502inf

That's correct, AFAIK, anyway. I scored a pretty respectable 74 on my ASVAB, but I knew many folks that scored in the 90's. I knew enlisted folks with a couple of degrees, as well, and I'm talking about E-3's and E-4's. My score seemed to be pretty average, to be honest.

I felt like a virtual idiot compared to those folks. :)


38 posted on 08/19/2005 8:46:05 AM PDT by exnavychick (I need a new tagline...any suggestions?)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Godspeed to each and everyone of them. Truely the best this country has to offer.


39 posted on 08/19/2005 8:50:13 AM PDT by Mane in Virginia
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To: kb2614

"Is it safe to say that Bill Maher is the equivilant of diseased pig vomit? Punk."

Bill Maher is yet another of a growing group of arrogant, despicable toads who suck blood from America while vilifying her and her good citizens. I would gladly wrap my hands around his pencil-thin neck and shake him up.


40 posted on 08/19/2005 8:53:13 AM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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