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City wants back rent from Kelo residents
world net daily ^ | August 20, 2005

Posted on 08/20/2005 4:01:48 AM PDT by bad company

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Saturday, August 20, 2005

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THIS LAND WAS YOUR LAND City wants back rent from Kelo residents Expects homeowners who lost case to pay hundreds of thousands

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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com In the adding insult to injury category, the city officials that triumphed over a group of Connecticut homeowners in a landmark Supreme Court property-rights case are expecting those residents to pay the local government rent dating back to the year 2000.

The June 23 Supreme Court ruling in Kelo v. City of New London gave the town the approval to seize the residents' homes and transfer them to a private party for development of an office complex. In the highly controversial decision, the justices ruled 5-4 that the economic development resulting from the eminent domain action qualified as "public use" under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

The city now says that since it won the case, the homeowners actually have been living on city property since 2000 when it first began condemnation procedures against them, so they must pay back rent – to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

"It's a new definition of chutzpah: Confiscate land and charge back rent for the years the owners fought confiscation," wrote Jonathan O'Connell in the Fairfield County Weekly.

Not only is the city demanding rent, but the buyout offers on the table are based on the market rate as it was in 2000, before most of the growth in the current real-estate bubble.

The New London Development Corporation, the semi-public organization hired by the city to facilitate the deal, first addressed the rent issue in a June 2004 letter to residents, calling the alleged debt retroactive "use and occupancy" payments.

"We know your clients did not expect to live in city-owned property for free, or rent out that property and pocket the profits, if they ultimately lost the case," the agency said. It warned that "this problem will only get worse with the passage of time," and that the city was prepared to sue for the money if need be.

The Kelo case is named after Susette Kelo, who owns a single-family house in New London with her husband. Kelo was told she would owe around $57,000 in rent.

"I'd leave here broke," Kelo told the weekly. "I wouldn't have a home or any money to get one. I could probably get a large-size refrigerator box and live under the bridge."

Matt Dery owns four houses on the building site, including the home his 87-year-old mother was born in and still lives in. Dery's past-due rent, according to the city, exceeds $300,000.

It remains to be seen if a suit will be filed against the residents.

"From a political standpoint, the city might be better off trying to reach some settlement with the homeowners," Jeremy Paul, an associate UConn law dean who teaches property law, told the paper.

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Justice Breyer: 'Not all our decisions are right'

Eminent domania comes to the movies

Eminent domania!

Souter-home campaign targets pols

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Court rules cities can seize homes

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: civilwarii; dictatorship; eminentdomain; getarope; kelo; nukethebastards; propertyrights
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Unintended consequences.
1 posted on 08/20/2005 4:01:49 AM PDT by bad company
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To: bad company

I can't say what I'm thinking. Not on here, at least.


2 posted on 08/20/2005 4:05:32 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Nac Mac Feegle! The Wee Free Men! Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! We willna be fooled again!")
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To: bad company

WTF.
And they didn't even need any black helicopters.


3 posted on 08/20/2005 4:07:18 AM PDT by cambridge
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To: bad company

This grows more obscene daily.


4 posted on 08/20/2005 4:09:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: bad company

I'm surprised that some "city employees" haven't been found murdered.


5 posted on 08/20/2005 4:09:54 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: bad company

I thought government antics couldn't surprise me anymore. I was wrong.


6 posted on 08/20/2005 4:23:50 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: bad company

...Justice Breyer: 'Not all our decisions are right'...

Can't think of the last time he was right.


7 posted on 08/20/2005 4:30:02 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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To: bad company
If the powers that be deemed that the value of the properties was frozen at the time of the filings, then the rent ought to have stopped then as well.

The city won't let the homeowners take advantage of the increase in their property values so why should they profit by collecting rent.

8 posted on 08/20/2005 4:31:33 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: bad company

I wonder if the city thugs have ever heard of Carl Drega?


9 posted on 08/20/2005 4:38:26 AM PDT by Rifleman
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To: bikepacker67
"I'm surprised that some "city employees" haven't been found murdered."

I think if there were, there should be an immediate presidential pardon issued! Furthermore, maybe if a couple of "justices" were to meet with a tragic end, perhaps a presidential pardon should be considered as well.
10 posted on 08/20/2005 4:38:47 AM PDT by dbehsman (One Wellstone memorial (rave party) is enough, thank you!)
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To: bad company

On the southwest, a judge takes the farm of a taxpayer and transfers the deed to illigal immigrants ( sorry... undocumented workers);
On the east coast, the supreme court take the house of a taxpayer and gives it to a developer.

This used to happen only in third worls countries.


11 posted on 08/20/2005 4:44:52 AM PDT by RexFamilia
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To: bad company
This does not call for legal action.
12 posted on 08/20/2005 4:45:50 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: bikepacker67
If this is New London Connecticut, it wouldn't be considered "murder".
13 posted on 08/20/2005 4:46:43 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: bad company

This is just petty and vindictive, and the city officials who are trying to do this need to be taken out horse whipped!


14 posted on 08/20/2005 4:47:04 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: bad company

Were the homeowners responsible for keeping up their mortgage payments for the 5 years of trials? If so, they should bill the city for the full amount of mortgage paid and see how they like it. If they were paying for city property then the city should have to reimburse them!


15 posted on 08/20/2005 4:55:36 AM PDT by Gardener
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To: OldFriend

Its called have your cake and eat it too.


16 posted on 08/20/2005 5:03:17 AM PDT by carumba
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To: RexFamilia

Every citizen should be happy to pay thier fair share to Mother Russia. I must have woke up in a parallel universe where we lost the Cold War


17 posted on 08/20/2005 5:15:17 AM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: Tennessee_Bob

I was think:

Rope
Tar
Feathers

Repeat asnecessary.


18 posted on 08/20/2005 5:18:22 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: RexFamilia

It still only happens in third world countries.


19 posted on 08/20/2005 5:25:54 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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To: RexFamilia

That's what happens when the communists.... um ... I mean libs have control of people's lives.


20 posted on 08/20/2005 5:38:05 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Baseball Apple Pie And Mom")
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To: bikepacker67

That's my thought too.

Not that either one of us endorse it, of course.



But Mother of God! What they are doing is obscene.


21 posted on 08/20/2005 5:40:59 AM PDT by Petronski (I stick to Rovian talking points: "I love Cyborg!")
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To: All

Makes you glad your fathers aren't alive to see this, and makes you think about your forebears.

If I said anything else, my account would be banned.


22 posted on 08/20/2005 5:42:48 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: bad company

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1467141/posts

Link to article on land confiscated by Cuba posted just today.

I am surprised this situation didn't happen on the side opposite of the Old North Church on the James River.


23 posted on 08/20/2005 5:45:49 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
This is just petty and vindictive, and the city officials who are trying to do this need to be taken out horse whipped!

The root cause of the problem here is the MORONS who ELECTED the flea brained officials in the first place. The officials cant help it, since they are just puss filled infections on society, they are just doing what comes natural.

If people are not to be held responsible for their vote, then why vote?

24 posted on 08/20/2005 5:48:26 AM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: RexFamilia
On the southwest, a judge takes the farm of a taxpayer and transfers the deed to illigal immigrants ( sorry... undocumented workers);

Huh?!?!?! I must have missed that one? Do you have a link?

On the east coast, the supreme court take the house of a taxpayer and gives it to a developer.

In Kansas City, there was this guy (Clay Chastain) who I think is well meaning, but something of a crack-pot, who was trying for years and years to get "Light Rail" on the ballot in KC. The city and the local press fought him tooth and nail, going so far as to break the law to keep it off the ballot (the court ruled that KC had to have a special election because of the illegal acts of the city!) Well, after a few failed attempts, all of a suddon, the city (led by Emmanual Cleaver, former mayor, and current congress-critter) decided that a "New and Improved Light Rail" would actually be a good thing. So they started really pushing it... Eventually some facts about the "New and Improved Light Rail" began to come out... Things like how it wouldn't even begin to cover important areas on KC that really needed it, like going to the airport. In fact, it was only going to traverse areas where there would be good money to be made for developers... And buried deep in the bill was a little gem... That the city could use eminent domain to condemn any property 100 yards on either side of the proposed tracks to give to developers.

As vocal a champion for Light Rail as Chastain had been over the years, he fought this new version, and helped defeat it.

This used to happen only in third worls countries.

Robert Mugabbe would be proud!

Mark This used to happen only in third worls countries.

25 posted on 08/20/2005 5:50:39 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: bad company

Um,what are they thinking?

First they take their homes and then they want rent for something the people owned until the court decided they had to give up their homes.

How are those people supposed to live?


26 posted on 08/20/2005 5:54:54 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: bad company

I don't get it, if they paid property taxes during that period, either the rent or the property taxes are fraudulent charges.


27 posted on 08/20/2005 5:56:27 AM PDT by ikka
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To: OldFriend

This case clearly proves that it is all about money.

I wonder how many of those city employees will still own their homes in 10 - 15 years. Once the prices go up in one area or neighborhood they will eventually go up in others. I hope they enjoy a 40 mile drive each way in bad weather on crowded roads with gas costing 3 times what it does today (see sections of Florida for the validity of those statements).

The other group of (many many bad words deleted many times over) criminals in this farce is the development councle. Non-paid “volunteers” that really pushed this issue. Those are the names and photos that need to distributed nation wide since they are a major tap root of this evil plant with the city councile and various courts the visible top.

Instead of the “shot heard around the word” this might be the “stamp seen around the world.”


28 posted on 08/20/2005 6:08:49 AM PDT by Nip (SPECTRE - Still a vision of life and death after 35 years.)
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To: carumba

More like....grand theft larceny


29 posted on 08/20/2005 6:08:50 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: bad company

NO LONGER A JOKE .....

One man says to a second man: "Do you believe in the First Amendment freedom of speech?"

The second man says: "Of course I do."

The first man then asks: "Do you believe in the Second Amendment freedom to bear arms?"

The second man replies: "No, I don't."

The first man insists: "Then shut up!"

The moral of the story is: you can have your rights, but you have to protect and defend them, too.


30 posted on 08/20/2005 6:19:48 AM PDT by hombre_sincero
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To: dbehsman
I think if there were, there should be an immediate presidential pardon issued!

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The president can't pardon murder, the governor of Connecticut could in this case.
31 posted on 08/20/2005 6:21:18 AM PDT by Cheburashka
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To: bad company
When the city magnanimously forgives or abates the past rent, the fact that they stole the property from the owners in the first place will pale.

This is a maneuver by the thieves and their crafty lawyers.

Leni

32 posted on 08/20/2005 6:26:35 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: bad company
If the people don't throw these plunderers out in the next election, they deserve this

They still have elections there don't they???

33 posted on 08/20/2005 6:26:57 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: MarkL

Sorry I don't have a link; I just heard it in passing.

It seems a farmer pistol whipped some illegals while traspassing on his land, they sued and he got 5 yrs. While in jail they brought up a civil suit against him, but because he was in jail, did not testify, the judge found him guilt by defaul and granted the illegals $875K, then gave them the farm in lieu of cash


34 posted on 08/20/2005 6:30:00 AM PDT by RexFamilia
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To: Mrs.Nooseman
How are those people supposed to live?

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They aren't supposed to live.

This is to put fear into people who in the future will oppose the government in a court of law.

"Fight us and we will destroy you."
35 posted on 08/20/2005 6:30:08 AM PDT by Cheburashka
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To: RexFamilia

If mexico has it's way, we will be under mexican rule, and they will be handing our homes away. That is the main reason why I keep harping on the Illegal Immigration thing.


36 posted on 08/20/2005 6:31:59 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: Popman
If the people don't throw these plunderers out in the next election, they deserve this.

See post 24.

The people who put the plunderers in, are the ones responsible. This is one of the reasons the secret ballot is dangerous. If citizens are afraid to stand up and publicly declare their decisions, it provides cover for the sleaze bags. Think of it this way, they have roll call votes in legislative bodies, for accountability. If the power of the legislatures is derived from the people, then people should be held to the highest standard, to set the example for those elected.

When the legislatures act in behalf of a vaguely defined "people", crap like Kelo happens.

37 posted on 08/20/2005 6:46:25 AM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: MarkL
Huh?!?!?! I must have missed that one? Do you have a link?

Migrants awarded vigilante's Ariz. ranch

and..

Two Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court Fight

38 posted on 08/20/2005 6:49:23 AM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: cambridge
WTF. And they didn't even need any black helicopters.

No Black Helicopters Needed - Just Black Robes

Outrageous Beyond Words...

39 posted on 08/20/2005 7:03:18 AM PDT by USMC79to83
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To: bad company

The riot scenes from "Gangs of New York" come to mind when I read this.


40 posted on 08/20/2005 7:07:25 AM PDT by montag813
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To: bad company
The city now says that since it won the case, the homeowners actually have been living on city property since 2000 when it first began condemnation procedures against them, so they must pay back rent – to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Just waiting for the headlines about a lynching party...............

41 posted on 08/20/2005 7:29:07 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

"It still only happens in third world countries."

We're getting there swiftly.


42 posted on 08/20/2005 7:30:47 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Mrs Mark

"The root cause of the problem here is the MORONS who ELECTED the flea brained officials in the first place. The officials cant help it, since they are just puss filled infections on society, they are just doing what comes natural."

I was reading in our local paper this morning that one of our local "leaders" wants to be re-elected in order to "re-vitalize" the downtown area. What she really means is she wants to run the old mom-and-pop businesses out (they've already done that with some of them) and move her financial friends in. Greed knows know bounds. Greed seems to be our countrys greatest product.


43 posted on 08/20/2005 7:34:35 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: dljordan

Been there for a while, now.

People are just starting to realize it.


44 posted on 08/20/2005 7:40:59 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google CFR North American Community)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
"I can't say what I'm thinking. Not on here, at least."

Something along the lines of " what is the current commodity market value of lead "? I can't say any more, either.

45 posted on 08/20/2005 7:44:11 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: dljordan
I was reading in our local paper this morning that one of our local "leaders" wants to be re-elected in order to "re-vitalize" the downtown area.

When they say "Re-vitalize" they really mean transferring economic activity away from some other location.

If you want to see economic development, take a section of land somewhere, and remove all zoning restrictions, and allow for complete ownership, no ADA, no smoking restrictions (save for basic fire safety related issues), deed restrictions if desired, etc. Amazing things could happen if the do gooders got out of the way. They are half the problem.

46 posted on 08/20/2005 8:16:15 AM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: bad company

[insert expletive] outrage bump


47 posted on 08/20/2005 9:11:27 AM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: RaceBannon; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys; monafelice; ...
Connecticut ping!

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.

48 posted on 08/20/2005 9:21:07 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: bikepacker67

Would it be murder, or a form of self-defense? I say the latter.


49 posted on 08/20/2005 9:45:35 AM PDT by Jason_b (Not asking for trouble, just asking.)
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To: bad company

Unreal.


50 posted on 08/20/2005 9:50:41 AM PDT by Jonx6
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