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Bush's Reasons For War (Vanity...need help from FREEPERS)
ME | August 21, 2005 | Me

Posted on 08/21/2005 6:54:18 PM PDT by SideoutFred

One of the favorite lines by our leftist friends is that the reasons for war by Bush keep changing. Personally, I don't buy that at all.

I've been using the State of the Union Address prior to the war, the speech to the UN General Assembly as my guiding tools here. I find that there were about 8 or 9 reasons given, not just the WMD reason. I'm trying to dispute this garbage from the left but I'm looking for some better sources. Any help folks?

Reasons I have documented (most of which are true or on their way)

1) WMD (not found in mass quantities, but could still be there or moved or destroyed 2) Regime Change (Successful, Hussein is gone). Elected gov't put in place 3) Removal of Hussein (Successful) 4) Stabilize region (TBD, but in the long run I think so) 5) Part of the War on Terrorism (Iraq funded Hamas and others for suicide bombers) 6) Uphold UN Resolutions that called for "serious consequences"


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KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; iraqcampaign; reasons; war; waronterror
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1 posted on 08/21/2005 6:54:18 PM PDT by SideoutFred
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To: SideoutFred
Because war on their soil is better than terrorism on ours. Period.
2 posted on 08/21/2005 6:57:17 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: SideoutFred

Bush stated in his State of the Union speech that Iraq, Iran, and North Korea are to be destroyed.

He couldn't have been more clear that night, but some people still don't get it.


3 posted on 08/21/2005 6:57:21 PM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: SideoutFred
If I'm not mistaken, they found 500 tons of yellow cake uranium. This has been significantly underreported by the MSM.
4 posted on 08/21/2005 6:57:34 PM PDT by MarkeyD (I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: SideoutFred
The reasons for the war were simple and unchanging:

  1. Iraq was not complying with U.N. resolutions it had agreed to comply with at the conclusion of Gulf War I.
  2. Iraq knowingly aided and abetted terrorists and terrorism.
  3. The U.N. was no longer fit to monitor Iraq due to the scandals in which it was embroiled; chiefly, the oil-for-food scandal.
  4. The U.S. built its own multi-national coalition to liberate Iraq and dismantle its war-making capabilities.

That's it in a nutshell. If any of your Leftist friends care to dispute it, ask them to produce credible sources. And no, the "Daily KOS" and similar Leftist screeds are not credible.

5 posted on 08/21/2005 6:58:29 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: SideoutFred
The reason:
6 posted on 08/21/2005 6:58:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: SideoutFred

It doesn't matter what you say, it will not change their mind. All the lefties care about is defeating Bush...too bad they are complete failures at that as well.


7 posted on 08/21/2005 7:00:09 PM PDT by NathanBookman (It's sunny.)
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To: SideoutFred

The President said that Saddam was an imminent threat, and that he needed to be removed before he could use his ability to produce and deliver WMD's to terrorists.


8 posted on 08/21/2005 7:00:41 PM PDT by airborne
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To: BenLurkin
Thank you!!!  'nuff said.
9 posted on 08/21/2005 7:01:46 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: SideoutFred

Cause the Middle East has been a festering boil for half a century. It's about damn time somebody had the balls to attempt real change there.

And it ain't a gonna happen over night, either.


10 posted on 08/21/2005 7:02:47 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SideoutFred

Fred, it was a front, in the war on Terror. A very strategic and important front. It was a very difficult decision for the man to make. He knew it would ruin his reputation, but he also knew that in the long run it would save more American (and world wide) lives. I admire him for going to war.

What is the country on the left of Iran? What is the country on the right? Where are our troops? Where were our troops in the year 2000? Were we safe in 2000?

These terrorists would part your head from your body, right in your own home, if we were not there. Libya would still be involved in terror, if we were not there. Iran would send a nuclear missle on our cities, if we were not there. We NEED to be there.


11 posted on 08/21/2005 7:02:58 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the heck happened!)
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To: SideoutFred

Please be sure to tell your friend that Clinton signed the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998 which called for regime change.

Kerry went on ABC and met with Cokie Roberts after the legislation was passed and advocated American boots on the ground (this was pre 9/11) and said our allies wouldn't be with us and Germany and France in particular would have a lot to answer for.

And give your friend this link with all the Democrats wailing about WMD in Iraq and Clinton himself said in one of his state of the union addresses that Iraq threatened the region and indeed the world, including the US.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990928/posts


12 posted on 08/21/2005 7:03:09 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: SideoutFred

Revenge: Saddam put a hit out on Pappa Bush in 1993.


13 posted on 08/21/2005 7:03:38 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy (Be not afraid...)
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To: SideoutFred

Whay are you wasting your time? The Left will never listen - they are beyond redemption.

Some days, with all the news from back home, I wonder why I'm here in Ramadi defending them. And a lot fo tropos who are less politically connected say it loudly.


14 posted on 08/21/2005 7:04:55 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Follow Sarge on His Most Excellent Adventure - on Freerepublic.com!)
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To: SideoutFred
House Joint Resolution 114 Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq
15 posted on 08/21/2005 7:05:58 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: SideoutFred

I am sure the smarties here on FR will help you but you should know the left is NOT INTERESTED IN THE TRUTH. You are on a fool's errand.


16 posted on 08/21/2005 7:07:52 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: Prime Choice
Your starting point is excellent- Saddam did not comply with the peace treaty that allowed him to hang on to power.

Given that, there is no question of "right" to depose Saddam, it becomes a question of what is most effective for U.S. goals.

That is the debate that should continue, not to satisfy the leftists but for those who support our country as a force for good in the world.

But, for once and for all, if the war was about "oil", the U.S. could have gotten all the oil it wanted out of Saddam by appeasing and flattering him, as we did for many years.
17 posted on 08/21/2005 7:10:23 PM PDT by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: airborne
The President did not say Saddam was an imminent threat. He said we shouldn't wait until he was one.

Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent. Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike? If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option.

The rest of his justification for removing Saddam is in the 2002 SOTU as well.

18 posted on 08/21/2005 7:10:50 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: SideoutFred
Try this...

~ Because he took an oath to protect the safety of Americans.

~ Because anyone who's ever made a cake knows that:

Bad guy who hates America and has food for oil $ to fund bad things

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Bad guy who hates America and was born into wealth so he has $ to fund bad things

=

future problems for America.

Now...let's see...add in a pinch of ...

~ Your Country has just lost over 3,000 people in a terrorist attack.

You:

A) Do nothing

B) Try to look like you're serious about finding bad guys by dropping a bomb or so on a rogue factory, or

C) Go to the one bad guy who ignored 17 UN resolutions; and many foreign governments, your predecessor, and your own CIA is telling you this guy has WMDs, and since you already have his address, you kick booo-tey!

W picked "C"

I think he made the right decision.

Pretty elementary to me.

19 posted on 08/21/2005 7:11:19 PM PDT by NordP (Keeping America Great - Karl Rove / Jack Bauer in 2008 !)
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To: SideoutFred

Bill Clinton signed an 'executive order' for the removal of Saddam from power in Iraq before he left office. President Bush was merely following his predecessor's order.


20 posted on 08/21/2005 7:16:06 PM PDT by moonman
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