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Anti-war protestors fault city police-Group calls for investigation of use of stun guns, pepperspray
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Monday, August 22, 2005 | Pohla Smith

Posted on 08/21/2005 9:57:41 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy

Anti-war protestors fault city police

Group calls for investigation of use of stun guns, pepper spray

Monday, August 22, 2005 By Pohla Smith, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

 

 

City police used excessive force when they used stun guns and pepper spray to break up an anti-war demonstration in Oakland on Saturday, members of the protesting group charged yesterday.

"Right now we're demanding an investigation," said David Meieran, a member of the Pittsburgh Organizing Group, which protested outside an Army recruiting station Saturday morning. About 30 to 50 people marched from the Carnegie Museum of Natural History to the recruiting post near Forbes Avenue and Atwood Street.

Police moved in on protesters after one of the marchers grabbed a TV camera, police said. Two protesters were hospitalized and five people, including one juvenile, were arrested or detained.

The juvenile was cited for disorderly conduct and released.

Meieran said three of the four others who were jailed were released yesterday, but he did not know their identities.

A police spokeswoman yesterday could not confirm that information.

Police used a Taser, or stun gun, on two people and pepper spray on others, including a 4-year-old girl, and "toppled a man with multiple sclerosis in his motorized wheelchair," according to the group's statement.

Others were clubbed with retracting metal batons, and a 68-year-old grandmother was bitten in the thigh by a police dog, the statement said.

The group hopes to show a video of the police actions, perhaps as early as today.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: antiwar; iraq; pittsburgh; protest
Sounds like the MoveOn crowd got a little out of line and the Pittsburgh Police - known for their compassion towards protestors, dealt with them. The PGH Police were a lot more brutal to some Operation Rescue (pro-life) protestors more than a decade ago.

They are mean to everyone....

And I am sure that the MOVEONers (the ones not in jail...) spent the past few days "cleaning up" the video to make the cops look as bad as possible.

Blocking a (closed for the day) recruiting station while we are at war. Morons....

1 posted on 08/21/2005 9:57:41 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

wimps


2 posted on 08/21/2005 9:59:07 PM PDT by notaliberal
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Live Ammo next time


3 posted on 08/21/2005 10:02:02 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

I think they should have been shooting DU rounds.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 10:02:50 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Anybody who drags a 4 year old to an anti-war protest should have their kids taken from them by Social Services


5 posted on 08/21/2005 10:05:11 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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Of course, the Trib has a fuller version of events:

Chief defends protest arrests
By The Tribune-Review
Monday, August 22, 2005

Pittsburgh Police Chief Robert McNeilly Jr. said Sunday officers acted properly a day earlier in Oakland, where two war protesters were shocked with Tasers and a woman was bitten by a police dog.

Police used force when "several participants ... chose to turn the allegedly nonviolent event into something that warranted police intervention in order to ensure public safety," McNeilly said in a prepared statement.

Four people were arrested in the fracas that began when a protestor assaulted a TV cameraman, and police moved in to break up the crowd. Charges include failure to disperse and rioting.

Protestors De'Anna Caligiuri, 23, of Bloomfield and Justin Krane, 31, of Mt. Washington, were shot with electrically-charged Taser stun darts during the melee. Caligiuri kicked at police who tried to arrest her, and Krane shoved a construction fence on officers, according to police.

Protestor Carole Wiedmann, 68, of Ohio Township, was treated for a police dog bite on her thigh Saturday.

The Pittsburgh Organizing Group, which led the protest at an Army recruiting station on Forbes Avenue, also claimed yesterday that police pepper sprayed a 4-year-old girl and knocked over a man in a wheelchair.

6 posted on 08/21/2005 10:06:58 PM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy (Be not afraid...)
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Right now we're demanding an investigation," said David Meieran,

This is from a whining wimp of a 42 y/o professional protester. He obviously cannot stand a little heat so he best get out of the kitchen.

I googled this guy the other night and discovered he has been affiliated with a lot of these leftist, anti-war movements. It is time for him to mature beyond the age of 20.

7 posted on 08/21/2005 10:07:55 PM PDT by Tarheel (Tarheel born, Tarheel bred, When I die I am Tarheel dead.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Oakland is out of control 24/7/365.

I wouldn't go there for any reason today, and some 25 years ago, there were a number of great restaurants I enjoyed. Couldn't get me there today with 6 Marines as bodyguards. It needs nuking and starting over.


8 posted on 08/21/2005 10:09:07 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy
We need this Police Chief to head to Crawford, TX. I would love to see Joan Baez Pepper sprayed and a K-9 biting her repeatedly :-)
9 posted on 08/21/2005 10:14:14 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

IT IS TIME FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO THROW AWAY THE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS OF STUN GUNS AND PEPPER SPRAY...

TIME TO GO BACK TO REAL CLUBS AND BULLETS AND BIG COPS WITH NAMES LIKE MANNY OR MEL THAT WILL SMACK THEM SILLY...


10 posted on 08/21/2005 10:23:53 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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Standard leftist tactic. Push the envelope, try to get a reaction that is (or at least can be made to appear) over the top. Edit video carefully, raise Hell.

Attribute all injuries to police/authorities whether inflicted by them or the mob running off.

Spoon feed BS to willing media, and play the VICTIM.

Straight out of the Vietnam era protest handbook.

11 posted on 08/21/2005 11:59:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

to all war protesters...Quit your b1tching PÜssies!


12 posted on 08/22/2005 12:58:46 AM PDT by BookaT (My cat's breath smells like cat food!)
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Calling viking kitties, calling viking kitties,


14 posted on 08/22/2005 1:28:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Paleo Conservative

What are democrassic underground rounds? Marshmallows?


15 posted on 08/22/2005 1:28:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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Why didn't they just shoot the dirty cowards.


16 posted on 08/22/2005 1:31:45 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

What idiot parent brings their 4-year old to a protest, where there is a fairly high likelyhood that police may have to use force to quiet or disrupt an unruly crowd.

The parents of the 4 year old should be charged with endangering a child.

Also, it sounds like things were fine until one 'peaceful' protestor attacked the cameraman and his like $100,000+ camera.

Not a wise idea. That is an act of aggression, and the police are justified to use force at that point.


18 posted on 08/22/2005 1:37:30 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: moxieproxy2600
I have been dead for years, thank you. You forget that many of the "pathetic bald fat men" around here have served their country in one capacity or another, and leftist lickspittles like you are not fit to shine their boots.

Besides, since when did being RIGHT have diddley-shit to do with being POPULAR?

I'd bet if you pulled your head outta there, you could get a better survey of opinions.

19 posted on 08/22/2005 1:38:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (God save us from the fury of the do-gooders!)
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To: Reform4Bush

The cameraman was 'assaulted' what does that mean? Someone shook a fist at him? Pointed a gun? The proper term would be 'struck' or 'battery' if he were hit.


20 posted on 08/22/2005 1:45:08 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: ridesthemiles

I went to college at pit 1993-1998. I know what you mean, Oakland is a war zone.


21 posted on 08/22/2005 1:52:53 AM PDT by PAMadMax (Islam is the enemy of all mankind...AlJazeera is its PR Firm)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

'Police moved in on protesters after one of the marchers grabbed a TV camera, police said.'

Call it theft, call it assault. When a protestor engages an onlooker (or reporter or cameraman) in a physical manner, the police are rightfully expected to intervene.


22 posted on 08/22/2005 1:54:16 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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Robbery


23 posted on 08/22/2005 1:55:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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It was a FOX cameraman! AAAAAH! Now it makes sense!

Pittsburgh police arrested five anti-military protesters Saturday after they disrupted traffic in Oakland and clashed with police.
The Pittsburgh Organizing Group, an organization opposed to military recruitment in high schools, sponsored the march from the Carnegie Library down Forbes Avenue to the Armed Forces Recruiting Center in the 3700 block of Forbes. Organizers had hoped to shut down the center, but it had already closed.

Pittsburgh police said the melee started when protesters tried to stop a freelance photographer for Fox 53 television from filming.

Police said they used a Taser, which shoots a 50,000-volt dart, and pepper spray to subdue one of the protesters.

Police spokeswoman Tammy Ewin said the demonstrator subdued by the Taser and another bitten by a police dog were treated at UPMC Presbyterian hospital, Oakland.

Zone 4 police said protesters will face charges of failing to disperse, obstructing public sidewalks, highways and passages, obstructing an arrest, criminal mischief, disorderly conduct, simple assault, harassment and resisting arrest.

Police declined to identify those arrested.

"When you're fighting with police officers, we're allowed to use the force necessary to effect an arrest, up to and including Taser," said city police Sgt. Clinton Winkler of Zone 4.

About 20 police officers had tried to quell the fracas and disperse the crowd with a German shepherd. Carole Wiedmann, 68, of Ohio Township, pointed to a blood-stained rip in the thigh of her peach slacks and said she was turning to leave when the dog bit her.




http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/pittsburgh/s_365979.html


24 posted on 08/22/2005 2:15:45 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: Reform4Bush

http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20050821211311961

Winkler said campus police tried to quell the march, and at one point protesters grabbed the camera of a freelance media photographer and broke it. City police tried to help and said some protesters fought the effort to break up the march.

"That's when they were told, due to the violence, that this was no longer a lawful protest," Winkler said. "They were told to disperse, peacefully disperse, and failed to do so we started down the sidewalk _ officers in front, K-9's behind us, and started pushing the crowd down the sidewalk."

In addition to the injured women, a man was also arrested on charges of disorderly conduct and failure to disperse.




It appears they broke the camera of the FOX cameraman. Somebody's gonna have a hefty court fee.


25 posted on 08/22/2005 2:57:39 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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About 30 to 50 people marched from the Carnegie Museum of Natural History to the recruiting post near Forbes Avenue and Atwood Street.

Gosh, what a HUGE protest march. And even at that small size, they could not control themselves and went into mob behavior. I wonder, what is the critical mass size when a bunch of leftist loonies get together?

26 posted on 08/22/2005 4:03:51 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: MJY1288

THAT'LL GIVE'M SOMETHING TO BITCH ABOUT!


27 posted on 08/22/2005 4:46:01 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What are democrassic underground rounds? Marshmallows?

Depleted Uranium.

28 posted on 08/22/2005 6:10:20 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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Protestor Carole Wiedmann, 68, of Ohio Township, was treated for a police dog bite on her thigh Saturday.

Too bad she still has a leg.

29 posted on 08/22/2005 6:12:58 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: MJY1288
Anybody who drags a 4 year old to an anti-war protest should have their kids taken from them by Social Services

ditto
sounds like deliberate child-endangerment to me

30 posted on 08/22/2005 8:27:09 AM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

These cops should not be using pepperspray,tasers and batons on anti-war protesters........Sidearms will do just nicely !


31 posted on 08/22/2005 9:25:25 AM PDT by talkshowamerica
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To: exDemMom

That was the USMA recruiting center where I went to get information on joining the Marines a few years ago.


32 posted on 08/22/2005 11:48:58 AM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy (Be not afraid...)
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Should read USMC - not USMA - I am MUCH TOO OLD for West Point....


33 posted on 08/22/2005 11:49:59 AM PDT by pittsburgh gop guy (Be not afraid...)
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What idiot parent brings their 4-year old to a protest....

Pepper spray doesn't just hang there, it drifts in the air, the answer, my friend is blowin' in the wind....

34 posted on 08/22/2005 3:35:07 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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You signed up today to call me names, It was sarcasm you ass, now go back to DU where you belong


37 posted on 08/24/2005 4:24:45 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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God, these liberals have a whine per minute. What next, the police officers go in unarmed and they complain because police officers are "Human weapons" due to their martial arts training?


38 posted on 08/24/2005 4:26:44 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: pittsburgh gop guy

Is it just my imagination or does every anti-war rally feature a 68-yar-old grandmother who is brutalized by the police?


39 posted on 08/24/2005 4:27:15 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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