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We'd be better off with Sadam if this is the ultimate result.
1 posted on 08/22/2005 11:13:10 AM PDT by Charlesj
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its too early to tell what this means. if we start seeing women losing rights, and mullahs and clerics holding government positions of power - then we will know its gone badly.


47 posted on 08/22/2005 11:54:33 AM PDT by oceanview
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You guys are a bunch of dopes.

What did you expect? ... Did you think the Iraqi constitution was going to be based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. It's an Islamic country. They are a very religious society, and they are not going to start hang pictures of George Washington and the ten commandment on their court houses.


50 posted on 08/22/2005 11:55:53 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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Suppose the Germans decided to institute a government basedon Mein Kampf after we won WW2.

Would we let them?

WE should be dictating the conditions and wording of their Constitution.

This is digusting.


53 posted on 08/22/2005 11:56:43 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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Our troops fighting in the name of Islam. Very ironic and sad.


54 posted on 08/22/2005 11:56:47 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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Okay, time to bail


63 posted on 08/22/2005 12:00:43 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (@)
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"Constitution says laws must conform to Islam"

Oh, *their* Constitution. I was afraid I'd overslept by 20 years and it meant *ours*.


65 posted on 08/22/2005 12:01:10 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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First, Ridiculous statement.

Second, I would wait to see the final document before you all go into hysterics. (Shades of Bashing Bush when everyone KNEW Judge Edith Clement was his SC nominee)

Third, according to http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
which is running commentary on the constitution process:

"Regarding Islam and the constitution: it was agreed upon that no laws that are against the widely agreed upon values of Islam can be issued and no laws that are against the values of democracy and human rights can be issued."
79 posted on 08/22/2005 12:08:15 PM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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Might I suggest a different foreign policy approach...


80 posted on 08/22/2005 12:08:41 PM PDT by sheltonmac (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTODES)
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Unacceptable!!


82 posted on 08/22/2005 12:10:28 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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Of course they are going to base their laws on Islam, our laws are based on Christianity. Did anyone think they were going to base their laws on Hinduism ? Women are the key to defeating Islamofacism, they must have equal rights and Islamofacism will die.


84 posted on 08/22/2005 12:12:03 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton =RAT Titantic)
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No more American lives for Islam! Bring our troops home now.


87 posted on 08/22/2005 12:14:38 PM PDT by MrLee
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You don't always get what you want in a Democracy.

At least they don't have a Democrat party yet!


89 posted on 08/22/2005 12:14:49 PM PDT by BootsOnTheGround (A free America is the World's only hope.)
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Sounds like Theocracy to me.


92 posted on 08/22/2005 12:15:18 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenance (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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I sure as hell wouldn't accept as fact anything rooters had to say about this.

Besides if I'm not mistaken the constitution has to be ratified by a 75% vote from the people, that percentage of vote will require a compromise. In other words this isn't the final draft and is probably being spun by rooters in the most negative way it can.

But you know hey we could always just go back to bases in Saudia Arabia and fly the "no fly zones". That was really great such a nice arrangement.......


95 posted on 08/22/2005 12:16:53 PM PDT by federal
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This whole thing is about to implode. Islam or no Islam, the Sunnis will veto it unless the federalism language is removed.


98 posted on 08/22/2005 12:20:00 PM PDT by oldfarmer (Mark 16:17-18)
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To: Charlesj; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
Al-Saghir said the blocs agreed that no laws would be adopted that contradict the principles of Islam. "In addition, no law shall be adopted that contradicts human rights and democratic principles," he said.

I'm confused. Islam DOES "contradict human rights and democratic principles"

LINK

117 posted on 08/22/2005 12:37:54 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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Whoa, this thread is as close as i've seen Free Republic come to a full on melt down.

You can almost smell the panic. "Bring our troops home now !!!" ????

Never thought i'd see the words.


130 posted on 08/22/2005 12:47:49 PM PDT by Axlrose
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Agreed. We should just put him back in power with an American garrison there with him 24/7. He's the only one who knew how to run that stinking place.


133 posted on 08/22/2005 12:49:25 PM PDT by ValenB4 ("Every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets." - Isaac Asimov)
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If we had partitioned Iraq into 3 pieces (Sunni, Shite, Kurd), we could have contained this problem more. Perhaps only the Shite south going Islamic government. We still could have maintained bases out in the boonies to maintain a military presence in the Middle East.

Now we paid mucho $$$$ for a big "Iran West" that's ready to fall apart after we leave. A Yugoslavia without Tito, a divided Iraq without a strong, secular dictator.

Partitioning would have been MUCH cheaper, got us out faster, and most importantly, would have cost fewer American casualties.

American foreign policy always fails to clearly define beneficial objectives before it commits troops. Bush I was an exception. Look at the damage FDR did with Stalin, and Wilson during WWI.

Hoppy


142 posted on 08/22/2005 12:54:19 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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Oh, grow up. We clearly state in our founding documents that our rights and laws are derived from God. As a predominantly Muslim country what else did you expect? The proof will be in the interpretation of Islam and the practices adopted. If universal suffrage and an independent judiciary are adopted you can stop worrying.
170 posted on 08/22/2005 1:09:48 PM PDT by Natural Law
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