[KevinDavis]

Not this sh*t again...

[xcamel]

"Iraq course bound to end badly.."

Sounds allot like the circulation numbers of the windy city blow and blather.

[churchillbuff]

I took out Greeley's gratuitous insults against Bush, so the main points of his argument could be read without that distraction. He's arguing that democracy with Western-style bill of rights can't be grafted onto the cultural stock of the Arab Muslim middle east. Instead, Iraq will end up, again, with strong-man, one-party or one-religion rule.

[frogjerk]

What does "stay the course" mean? At one time it meant "regime change."

How could "Stay the course" mean "regime change." As if this makes any sense at all...

BUSH 2002: "I'm staying the course with regime change in Iraq..."

What silliness these so-called pundits spew via their cake holes...

[Skooz]

Greely's an idiot.

That's the only response this drivel deserves.

[TheDon]

What will happen in Iraq will be very much like what existed before Saddam came to power and eventually lead, in the name of the will of the people, to another tyrant who will rule with an automatic weapon in his hand.

Clueless Andy, and a racist to boot.

[VoodooEconomics]

Kind of ignoring the entire cold war experience - not to mention post WWII experience - don't ya think?

[Outland]

As long as Iraq will be under the law of Islam (as denoted by a recent Drudge headline, "Iraq draft says laws must conform to Islam"), Iraq will never be a true democracy.

Did anyone really expect a different outcome?

[nutmeg]

[swarthyguy]

It's ending pretty good if you are a Shia Sharia advocate.

[NathanBookman]

"[President Bush] is not another Hitler. Yet there is a certain parallelism. They have in common a demagogic appeal to the worst side of a country's heritage in a crisis. Bush is doubtless sincere in his vision of what is best for America. So too was Hitler."--columnist Andrew Greeley, Chicago Sun-Times, June 11


It looks like Greeley attended the Code Pink school of public speaking.

[Billthedrill]

Strikes me you're kind of declaring defeat while the thing is still in progress, cb, and so is Greeley. That aside, what form of Iraqi government would satisfy you? What would they have to build before you'd declare victory?

[NathanBookman]

Three Bishops refute flawed theology of Fr. Andrew Greeley

In an article by Barbara Kralis.

...Fr. Andrew Greeley perpetuated the second controversy regarding the same memorandum from Cardinal Ratzinger.

None would dispute that Fr. Greeley is the ‘Catholic’ darling of the secular media. Whenever the major news marketers require an interviewee regarding Catholic Church issues, they indisputably call upon the ubiquitous Fr. Greeley.



Author of numerous nigh on pornographic novels, Father Greeley is under the authority of Cardinal Francis George, Archbishop of Chicago. It is not known if Cardinal George has imposed any disciplines upon the aging hippy Father Greeley whose behavior is not consistent with the ordained priesthood.



True to form, in an August 10, 2004 New York Daily News article, Fr. Greeley crafted a column that disparaged faithful Bishops and used the deceitful headline “Catholics can vote for Kerry.”



In this article, Fr. Greeley dishonestly stated that His Eminence Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said that Catholics could vote for Presidential candidate John Kerry who promotes procured abortion.



Fr. Greeley was fraudulently referring to the Cardinal Ratzinger memorandum.

from:

http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/archives/005033.php

[TChris]

Democracy does not mean merely that the majority of voters elect their rulers. It also means the rights of the minority are protected.

Liberals sure have fun redefining words to their own ends, don't they?

[DTogo]

Yeah, the invasion of Normandy was a quagmire and ended badly, too.

So were/did the invasions of Guadal Canal, the Philippines, Iwo Jima and Okinawa.

Let's be French and just surrender. /sarc

[Catphish]

The draft of the constitution that I read a few weeks ago had broad sections concerning equality under the law, human rights, freedom of speech, etc. See if you can find any of those things in Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. And the draft of the constitution that came out today significantly weekens the authority of Islam over the law by changing the text to read that it is a source of the law rather than the source. The chicken littles who expected Iraq to install the establishment clause in their constitution deserves to be dissapointed - it is Iraq for christ's sakes.

[MEGoody]

What does "stay the course" mean? At one time it meant "regime change." Then it came to mean "weapons of mass destruction," then it meant "war on terror."

Apparently, the author has not has his head out of his behind in several years.

[Bon mots]

I tend to think that the only things that will ever work with Muslims go BANG. Democracy is not one of them.

Who knows, maybe the experiment will work.

If not, there's always Plan B

[Sloth]

Democracy does not mean merely that the majority of voters elect their rulers. It also means the rights of the minority are protected. It means freedom of the press, freedom of expression, freedom of religion, the right to seek redress of grievance, an impartial and independent judiciary, it means no street violence after an election, the right to presumed innocence and to appeal court decisions, respect for those who are different from you, protection of property and contracts...

Actually, democracy doesn't mean ANY of that at all, which is why it's a bad system of government. Democracy is mob rule. A constitutional republic is required to protect minority interests.

[OldFriend]

It means we don't cut and run.

What did it get us in Viet Nam?

What did it get us from Lebanon?

What did it get us from Somalia?

A reputation for being unable to muster the courage and determination to defeat the enemy.

NO THANK YOU, NOT IN MY NAME