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'Christian' Pat Robertson calls for the assassination of Venezuela's President Chavez
Vheadline.com ^ | 8/22/05 | staff

Posted on 08/22/2005 5:43:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase

hristian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club host Pat Robertson ... founder of the Christian Coalition of America has called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Frias.

In a direct transcript of his August 22 The 700 Club broadcast Robertson clearly says:

There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it.

It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... this is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen.

We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly.

We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability.

We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hugochavez; patrobertson; venezuela; viacondios
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To: Lord_Baltar
Here, I'll give you some simpler questions this time, what other Foriegn Leaders should be assassinated? Who would Jesus Assassinate?

First of all I never said Chavez should be assassinated.

You need to follow the debate more closely.

Secondly if you intend to give "simpler questions" you should at least learn to spell simple words like "foreign". Ok?

Thirdly, asking "Who would Jesus Assassinate?" is infantile.

We're talking about larger concepts like applying Biblical principles in a consistant and coherant manner.

I think what Robertson said was stupid. But I have yet to hear one solid argument as to why it is not Christian.

201 posted on 08/22/2005 7:48:12 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Conservative til I die; wagglebee
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.--Matthew 10:34

Christ's words in context are dealing with the separation that will come between brother and sister, mother and father, even husband and wife, as it relates to His word and not the use of an actual sword. This is evidenced by Matthew 10:35-40. This verse is misused by 'conservatives' about as much as Christ's directions in Luke 22:36. The sword in that instance is a sword not of this world as well

Do you think Christ had in mind appeasing His enemies?

I won't even justify that statement with an answer as Christ told us what to do to those that would hate us, and the attitude of turning the other cheek. As to your statement on the disciple, what did Christ do and say when the disciple actually used that sword? Oh yes...

51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.

52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.--Matthew 26:51-52

I thought Robertson was out there in the past. But he is seen, fortunately or unfortunately as a man of God, by this society. I see an apology imminent in Pat's future. One that is well justified

202 posted on 08/22/2005 7:50:29 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Jorge
But I have yet to hear one solid argument as to why it is not Christian.

Um... "Thou shalt not kill"?

203 posted on 08/22/2005 7:50:31 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Lord_Baltar
Lord_Baltar sez;
Jorge, I'm hardly angry...
with veins bulging out of his neck as he pounds out another hysterical post.... LOL
204 posted on 08/22/2005 7:52:00 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
We're talking about larger concepts like applying Biblical principles in a consistant and coherant manner.

Before ragging on another poster's spelling mistakes, you may want to spell-check your post.

/some friendly advice
//insert something about a mote and a beam here.

205 posted on 08/22/2005 7:52:19 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Types_with_Fist
"But I have yet to hear one solid argument as to why it is not Christian."

Um... "Thou shalt not kill"?

In that case we should allow Muslim extremists to murder thousands of Americans but when it comes to stopping them some holier than thou liberal flake parrots "thou shalt not kill", and we must not raise a finger in our defense.

And THIS is God's intention?
You're kidding right?

206 posted on 08/22/2005 7:56:21 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: NatsFan

Outside of "the party", Chavez has NO popular support. Most of the people hate him... but they disappear if they "tell it like it is".

LLS


207 posted on 08/22/2005 7:57:15 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Jorge
And THIS is God's intention? You're kidding right?

You asked for something "Christian." Sounds pretty cut and dried to me. But, then, I'm sure you can pluck something out of the Bible where Jesus advocated your stance.

208 posted on 08/22/2005 7:58:14 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Jorge
We're talking about larger concepts like applying Biblical principles in a consistant and coherant manner.

Wait, you want us to talk about larger Biblical principles but Christ's actions and teachings would be irrelevant to the discussion? I don't follow.
209 posted on 08/22/2005 7:58:27 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Jorge

Oooooh, a Spelling Nazi, good...

"Thirdly, asking "Who would Jesus Assassinate?" is infantile"

I know you're fighting like hell to avoid answering that question, but why not give it a go. What would Jesus say about Assassinating ANYONE?

IF Jesus is the one who states Christian principle, then how can asking what his take on Assassination be infantile? And, conversely, if his take would be a specific admonition NOT to do it, then how does it make it RIGHT to do it, simply because you skipped back to an earlier chapter when it was considered OK?


"We're talking about larger concepts like applying Biblical principles in a consistant and coherant manner."

OK, Larger concepts like applying Religious Principles to concepts like Assassination (ie Murder).

How do you show horn Christian principles into Assassination?



210 posted on 08/22/2005 7:58:30 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Wormwood
Before ragging on another poster's spelling mistakes, you may want to spell-check your post. /some friendly advice //insert something about a mote and a beam here.

Oh God. Give me a break.

211 posted on 08/22/2005 7:59:00 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge

hehehehehe Yeah Jorgey, you don't got what it takes to make my veins bulge...


212 posted on 08/22/2005 7:59:51 PM PDT by Lord_Baltar
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To: Rebelbase

I don't care who made the call, but it's about time someone did.


213 posted on 08/22/2005 8:01:09 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Types_with_Fist; Jorge
Um... "Thou shalt not kill"?

But let us clarify that this refers to murder. Abortion is murder. Deaths from an unjust war are probably murder. Stabbing someone to death for no reason is murder. Striking down an intruder trying to kill your children is not murder. Just wanted to differentiate before Jorge twists your statement.
214 posted on 08/22/2005 8:02:57 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die
Just wanted to differentiate before Jorge twists your statement.

Thanks. I appreciate that...:-)

215 posted on 08/22/2005 8:04:43 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Conservative til I die
Wait, you want us to talk about larger Biblical principles but Christ's actions and teachings would be irrelevant to the discussion?

No. I'm just saying we have to remember that Jesus IS GOD incarnate.
We need to balance the teachings of Jesus with the OT to get the whole picture.

We have the flower people who think that Jesus is all about forgiveness and being nice to everybody....but this is an idiotic application of the Bible when it comes to dealing with murdering dictators and enemies of America.

216 posted on 08/22/2005 8:05:48 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Conservative til I die
No it is not more important.....all of Gods word is to be taken seriously..I said this to you because you keep quoting New Testament for your argument and I was reminding you of the Old.

It is not license for anyone to speak for God and decide to smote who they think are his enemies on their own.

I never said this... I seem to get the impression from you that you don't believe God wants us to deal with evil


217 posted on 08/22/2005 8:05:56 PM PDT by PaulaB (Waiting On My Blessed Hope)
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To: Rebelbase

A man of God calling for assassination?


218 posted on 08/22/2005 8:07:33 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (How does He know what you're gonna do? He had a great view from YOUR cross.)
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To: Conservative til I die
Just wanted to differentiate before Jorge twists your statement.

Too late. I already did.

219 posted on 08/22/2005 8:08:06 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Lord_Baltar
hehehehehe Yeah Jorgey, you don't got what it takes to make my veins bulge...

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!
My veins aren't bulging at all!!!!!hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!

220 posted on 08/22/2005 8:10:33 PM PDT by Jorge
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