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Glove Slap: The U.S. ambassador to Mexico spoke volumes with one provocative word.
Houston Chronicle ^ | 8/22/05

Posted on 08/22/2005 6:32:07 PM PDT by Crackingham

Everybody makes mistakes — even diplomats, whose jobs call for extreme verbal precision to convey their countries' coolness, pique, displeasure and high dudgeon. When foreign relations finally boil over, an ambassador's silence — produced by recalling him for consultation — is diplomaticspeak for, "This is serious." It is rare, however, for a diplomat to use insulting language unless it is intentional.

Tony Garza, the U.S. ambassador to Mexico, is claiming that a small international furor he prompted last week resulted from a misstatement. No one's really buying it. Earlier this month, Garza closed the U.S. Consulate in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, for 10 days in response to a wave of narco-violence flooding the city. Then, in a speech in Denver, Garza told listeners, "Some have said that I ordered the shutdown to punish the Mexican government for its failure to control violence in the region. And in a sense that's true." With its connotations of paternalism and intervention, the word "punish" infuriated many Mexicans. Mexico's deputy foreign minister promptly released his own statement about Garza: "His selection of words was frankly unfortunate and not appropriate to the role of an ambassador."

A longtime political associate of President Bush, Garza is not a professional diplomat. But there is good reason to believe he intended to use an inflammatory word. As a Texan married to a member of the Mexican elite, Garza would know full well how badly verbal strong-arming would be translated across the border. Most tellingly, however, Garza's Denver remarks came from a prepared speech — distributed to journalists in Mexico hours before he spoke, and included a helpful line noting that the word "punish" was sure to draw attention.

According to analysts, Garza's remark probably achieved its purpose. Because Mexico and the United States are so politically and economically enmeshed, withdrawing an ambassador or enacting some kind of sanction would be harsher measures than the U.S. government wanted to take. At the same time, the border violence to which Garza responded is of deep concern here. American officials are pressing for Mexico's federal government to actively pursue border kingpins and narco-traffickers' safe houses, but in Nuevo Laredo at least, the murder rate has actually increased since federal intervention two months ago.

Garza's provocative language, observes one former diplomat to Latin America, "may be to let the Mexican government get a sense of how severe this issue is from a U.S. point of view. This might be the U.S. calling Mexico's bluff, and indicating this is not business as usual."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nuevolaredo; tonygarza; usembassy
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1 posted on 08/22/2005 6:32:09 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
What's the Spanish word for this?


2 posted on 08/22/2005 6:38:09 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Crackingham

I'm crying a river for the Mexicans right now. Their brazen indignation toward the country that is stupidly providing them welfare and fertile ground for their drug gangs and other crimes is the height of arrogance.


3 posted on 08/22/2005 6:38:39 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Veni, vedi, Vichy." ("I came, I saw, I capitulated to German occupation forces."))
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To: Crackingham
A longtime political associate of President Bush, Garza is not a professional diplomat.

All the more reason he's qualified to be an ambassador.

4 posted on 08/22/2005 6:41:28 PM PDT by Undertow ("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
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To: Crackingham
"may be to let the Mexican government get a sense of how severe this issue is from a U.S. point of view.

For a real "feel" of the US point of view..........

"el Presidente Fox, phone call on line two - a Senior Tom Tancredo, from Colorado, USA wishes to speak with you."

LVM

5 posted on 08/22/2005 6:42:45 PM PDT by LasVegasMac ("God. Guts. Guns. I don't call 911." (bumper sticker))
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To: Crackingham
Maybe our Mexican friends will be so insulted they will pick up and go home.

Nope, didn't think so.

6 posted on 08/22/2005 6:43:39 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: DTogo

El wallo?


7 posted on 08/22/2005 6:44:35 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Crackingham; HiJinx; gubamyster
According to analysts, Garza's remark probably achieved its purpose. Because Mexico and the United States are so politically and economically enmeshed, withdrawing an ambassador or enacting some kind of sanction would be harsher measures than the U.S. government wanted to take. At the same time, the border violence to which Garza responded is of deep concern here. American officials are pressing for Mexico's federal government to actively pursue border kingpins and narco-traffickers' safe houses, but in Nuevo Laredo at least, the murder rate has actually increased since federal intervention two months ago.

Good for Garza! The Mexican government can whine all they want. Garza did the right thing.

8 posted on 08/22/2005 6:46:59 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
This is still just talk. I say let the Mexicans put it vote. Let them become another 31 states in The U.S.
9 posted on 08/22/2005 6:59:48 PM PDT by one more state
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Mexico needs tourist dollars for those who do not come to the USA.

If the violence issue gets more MSM airplay, Mexican tourism is screwed.


10 posted on 08/22/2005 7:06:10 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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"...This might be the U.S. calling Mexico's bluff, and indicating this is not business as usual..."

Bullchit, mexico lives on illegals going to the U.S. and sending dollars home-PERIOD!

Mexico will do nothing except demand that the U.S. allow mexican citizens free access to everything in America, and the American government looks like it fully intends to do as the mexicans demand.

Our politicians make noises like they intend to address the issue but nothing EVER comes from all of the noise.

11 posted on 08/22/2005 7:09:07 PM PDT by skimbell (Now in its 42nd year and still no Exit Strategy for the War on Poverty.)
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To: Crackingham

'Bout time words like that were used. Why bother to pussyfoot around?


12 posted on 08/22/2005 7:10:33 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: one more state

Interesting thought, I could just see the parade of Democrats to immediatly recruit new members.

I wonder if they would support the new states becoming english speaking .


13 posted on 08/22/2005 7:11:44 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Crackingham
I have often been a vocal advocate of Mexicans, as most that I know are great people. I also advocate learning a foreign language. But there are, inevitably, bad apples coming across our border. The following story from the small town where I work illustrates the dark side of uncontrolled immigration. One of the shooting victims was my co-worker's Dad, at her brother's wedding reception.

Monday, August 8, 2005

Owner of Club Rio reacts after Saturday shooting

By Scott Kimbler GAINESVILLE GA. (Little Mexico)- Four people are injured in a drive-by shooting Saturday night in Gainesville.

Gang Task Force Member Sgt. Scott Ware said there was a confrontation among two gangs at Club Rio around 11:30.

"Following the fight someone came back and performed a drive-by shooting into the club striking four people." Ware said. "They appear to be bystanders."

Jose Isidro Macias, 20, Gainesville was arrested and charged with the shooting. He is charged with two counts aggravated battery, four counts aggravated assault and four counts of possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony.

The owner of Club-Rio, Maria Retana said the people that were hit were inside the building were two party goers and two employees.

None of the victims sustained life threatening injuries.

"They were able to apprehend the suspect based on the camera." She said.

Retana praises the response of law enforcement to the shooting and says she will try to prevent future shootings. "We will work with the gang task force," Retana said. "To prevent anything like this from happening."

She added there was some sort of disturbance where two apparent gang members were asked to leave the reception just before the altercation took place in the parking lot.

14 posted on 08/22/2005 7:24:13 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: DTogo

Wow nice wall! Plenty of surface area for the Mexican gangs to spray paint and tall enough to make sure they do it only on the south side!

I'll bet we could get enough volunteers to build several hundred miles of this. Many would mix the concrete by hand.


15 posted on 08/22/2005 7:24:45 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: Crackingham
We are all inured. Hardened. Even debauched.

Mexico is narco-terrorist territory. It's not even a state any longer. Just a loose confederation of competing outlaws.

American citizens are being murdered regularly on BOTH sides of the border by these scum. They are flooding our nation with drugs. They are flooding our nation with peons because they REFUSE to build a functioning industrial society.

The wealthy elite of Mexico think of themselves as princes ... not captains of industry. They sit on their corrupt asses and collect their 'mordita' from both the peons and the drug cartels.

What we should be doing is financing a revolution down there.
16 posted on 08/22/2005 7:30:09 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: mercy

You would be stopped by a Mexican on a sidestreet in Zacatecas, and asked in an amazing tone, "SENOR, HOW COME YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT MY COUNTRY???"" :-)


17 posted on 08/22/2005 7:37:42 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: one more state

They might vote for unification with the states. The only problem I would have is their corrupt political families, corrupt cops, and murdering scum drug gangs.


18 posted on 08/22/2005 7:42:34 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Only if MSM thinks the story will hurt Bush. I wonder if anyone is keeping accurate stats on Mexican tourism? I wonder if Sammy Hagar still hangs out in Cabo, for that matter...


19 posted on 08/22/2005 7:45:15 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: mercy

Amen to your excellent reply!


20 posted on 08/22/2005 7:48:12 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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