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This is a year old, but it's new to me, and it hadn't already been posted.
1 posted on 08/23/2005 4:33:45 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Well good. Reproduction entails responsibility. All this technology cracking open the commitment enshrined in marriage and replacing it with fast-food fertility is wicked.


2 posted on 08/23/2005 4:36:59 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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Superior Court Judge Patrick R. Tamilia wrote that the oral contract between McKiernan and Ferguson is essentially worthless, because the rights for child support belong to the twins, not to either parent.

But if they had had an oral agreement that if she should become pregnant, he would take care of the child, no abortion, yet she went ahead and killed said child, dad would be SOL.

3 posted on 08/23/2005 4:40:52 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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So the only person that hasn't really suffered in this case is the woman who put the ball in motion. Unreal.


4 posted on 08/23/2005 4:42:39 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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So, let me see if I understand.

If a woman goes to a fertility clinic and is fertilized by ostensibly anonymous sperm, if she finds out who the donor is she can go after him for child support?

This doesn't make any legal sense.


6 posted on 08/23/2005 4:48:07 AM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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Yet another wrong ruling from our court system.


7 posted on 08/23/2005 4:49:27 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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Time for Daddy to bend over for the in-vitro Nazi, open his wallet, and make the socialist state real happy.


11 posted on 08/23/2005 4:54:26 AM PDT by Reactionary
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Ah, the new generation welfare mom...have a doctor impregnate you with someone's sperm, find out who the donor was and shabaam! instant welfare. Not to mention, government enforced welfare - because uncle sammy will take his income, his tax refunds, his property all in the name of the children - when in fact the child sees little if any of the money!

Gotta love our judicial tyrants!


12 posted on 08/23/2005 5:00:40 AM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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So wrong.


21 posted on 08/23/2005 5:34:33 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: grundle

As the Hollywood mogul once said: An oral contract ain't worth the paper it's written on.


22 posted on 08/23/2005 5:34:35 AM PDT by jocon307
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SO, let me get this right, let's say a woman finds me unconscious, takes my sperm and impregnates herself, and therefore, I am responsible for this child's future welfare. Where's the logic? The femi-natzi's revenge!
24 posted on 08/23/2005 5:40:05 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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Artificial insemination is fornication/adultery.

That said . . .

Any woman fool enough to have a child out of wedlock, should be on her own.

Else, there is no reason for legal marriage, and society collapses.

As it has been collapsing from this and a score of other reasons.


26 posted on 08/23/2005 5:49:10 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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The question should not be to the man, "where is your written agreement?"

The question should be to the woman, "Where is your marriage license?"

27 posted on 08/23/2005 5:51:13 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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The true and unjust reason the state is forcing this poor misguided fool to pay child support is this:

Follow the money.

If the father isn't forced to pay, the state through social services may have to spend to help the mother and child.


30 posted on 08/23/2005 5:55:19 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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"According to the court papers, Ferguson persuaded McKiernan to donate his sperm for in vitro fertilization in 1993, when their relationship waned. Ferguson was married, but her husband filed for divorce on the day she underwent the IVF procedure, court papers said. "

Whackos - play with fire - get your a** burned!

46 posted on 08/23/2005 6:12:47 AM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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1. Oral agreements are not worth the paper they are written on.

2. A mother can not waive child support, it does not belong to her it belongs to the child.

3. This was not an anonymous donation. The anonymous system is set up that way so identification is impossible and thus you can't know who to sue for support.

-In theory, if a sperm bank has a record of the actual donor and they can be traced, you CAN sue for support.


67 posted on 08/23/2005 7:13:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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it's all about the money. find someone whose wages can be attached.

81 posted on 08/23/2005 7:25:23 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (see my FR page for a link to the tribute to Terri Schaivo, a short video presentation.)
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Superior Court Judge Patrick R. Tamilia wrote that the oral contract between McKiernan and Ferguson is essentially worthless, because the rights for child support belong to the twins, not to either parent.

If that is true, then why didn't the court wait until the twins were old enough to request the child support for themselves?

OK. They couldn't. So "mommy" does it for them. But the child support is not for "her". A distinction without a difference.
Plus, if "mom" can represent them at all, can she not also waive the support on their behalf (orally)?

Finally doesn't "mom" have a profound finacial conflict of interest?

84 posted on 08/23/2005 7:37:34 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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>>shudder<<

It's stuff like this that make me glad to be seriously thinking about getting snipped.

85 posted on 08/23/2005 7:43:32 AM PDT by Tree of Liberty (requiescat in pace, President Reagan)
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A verbal agreement is worth the paper it's written on.


92 posted on 08/23/2005 7:56:03 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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"Ferguson was married, but her husband filed for divorce on the day she underwent the IVF"

Snip

"On Aug. 25, 1994, Ferguson gave birth to the twins. She listed her ex-husband, not McKiernan, as the biological father on the birth certificate, according to court papers."

She was married to someone else at the time she got pregnant.
So who is the one responsible the biological father , the husband or the one with the deepest pockets

94 posted on 08/23/2005 8:01:51 AM PDT by grjr21
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