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Study: Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer
Anderson Valley Advertiser ^ | July 2, 2005

Posted on 08/23/2005 5:14:08 AM PDT by Wolfie

Study: Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer

Protective Effect "Not Unreasonable"

Marijuana smoking -"even heavy longterm use"- does not cause cancer of the lung, upper airways, or esophagus, Donald Tashkin reported at this year's meeting of the International Cannabinoid Research Society. Coming from Tashkin, this conclusion had extra significance for the assembled drug-company and university-based scientists ( most of whom get funding from the U.S. National Institute on Drug Abuse ). Over the years, Tashkin's lab at UCLA has produced irrefutable evidence of the damage that marijuana smoke wreaks on bronchial tissue. With NIDA's support, Tashkin and colleagues have identified the potent carcinogens in marijuana smoke, biopsied and made photomicrographs of pre-malignant cells, and studied the molecular changes occurring within them. It is Tashkin's research that the Drug Czar's office cites in ads linking marijuana to lung cancer. Tashkin himself has long believed in a causal relationship, despite a study in which Stephen Sidney examined the files of 64,000 Kaiser patients and found that marijuana users didn't develop lung cancer at a higher rate or die earlier than non-users. Of five smaller studies on the question, only two - -involving a total of about 300 patients-concluded that marijuana smoking causes lung cancer. Tashkin decided to settle the question by conducting a large, population-based, case-controlled study. "Our major hypothesis," he told the ICRS, "was that heavy, longterm use of marijuana will increase the risk of lung and upper-airways cancers."

The Los Angeles County Cancer Surveillance program provided Tashkin's team with the names of 1,209 L.A. residents aged 59 or younger with cancer ( 611 lung, 403 oral/pharyngeal, 90 laryngeal, 108 esophageal ). Interviewers collected extensive lifetime histories of marijuana, tobacco, alcohol and other drug use, and data on diet, occupational exposures, family history of cancer, and various "socio-demographic factors." Exposure to marijuana was measured in joint years ( joints per day x years that number smoked ). Controls were found based on age, gender and neighborhood. Among them, 46% had never used marijuana, 31% had used for less than one joint year, 12% had used for 1-10 j-yrs, 5% had used 10-30 j-yrs, 2% had used for 30-60 j-yrs, and 3% had used for more than 60 j-yrs.

Tashkin controlled for tobacco use and calculated the relative risk of marijuana use resulting in lung and upper airways cancers. A relative risk ratio of .72 means that for every 100 non-users who get lung cancer, only 72 people who smoke get lung cancer. All the odds ratios in Tashkin's study turned out to be less than one! Compared with subjects who had used less than one joint year, the estimated odds ratios for lung cancer were .78 for 1-10 j-yrs [according to the abstract book and .66 according to notes from the talk] .74 for 10-30 j-yrs; .85 for 30-60 j-yrs; and 0.81 for more than 60 j-yrs. The estimated odds ratios for oral/pharyngeal cancers were 0.92 for 1-10 j-yrs; 0.89 for 10-30 j-yrs; 0.81 for 30-60 j-yrs; and 1.0 for more than 60 j-yrs. "Similar, though less precise results were obtained for the other cancer sites," Tashkin reported. "We found absolutely no suggestion of a dose response."

The data on tobacco use, as expected, revealed "a very potent effect and a clear dose-response relationship -a 21-fold greater risk of developing lung cancer if you smoke more than two packs a day." Similarly high odds obtained for oral/pharyngeal cancer, laryngeal cancer and esophageal cancer. "So, in summary" Tashkin concluded, "we failed to observe a positive association of marijuana use and other potential confounders."

There was time for only one question, said the moderator, and San Francisco oncologist Donald Abrams, M.D., was already at the microphone: "You don't see any positive correlation, but in at least one category, it almost looked like there was a negative correlation, i.e., a protective effect. Could you comment on that?" [Abrams was referring to Tashkin's lung-cancer data for marijuana-only smokers, 1-10 j-yrs.]

"Yes," said Tashkin. "The odds ratios are less than one almost consistently, and in one category that relationship was significant, but I think that it would be difficult to extract from these data the conclusion that marijuana is protective against lung cancer. But that is not an unreasonable hypothesis."


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KEYWORDS: cancer; health; lungcancer; potheads; pufflist; wodlist
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Gee, I wonder how the mainstream media missed this one.
1 posted on 08/23/2005 5:14:08 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

They lost their places while passing the bong.


2 posted on 08/23/2005 5:16:08 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Wolfie

3 posted on 08/23/2005 5:17:23 AM PDT by Maceman (Pro Se Defendant from Hell)
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To: Wolfie

What about long term consumption of oreos and milk?


4 posted on 08/23/2005 5:18:40 AM PDT by dsmatuska
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To: Wolfie

Exactly the same way they missed the fact that second hand (tobacco) smoke does not cause lung cancer.............can't report what's not in the playbook dontcha know?


5 posted on 08/23/2005 5:18:54 AM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: Wolfie

And if you do get cancer, you enjoy it more.


6 posted on 08/23/2005 5:19:22 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Wolfie

No, but it can keep you confined to one place for long periods of time!


7 posted on 08/23/2005 5:19:33 AM PDT by CedarDave (Five years a freeper - 08/17/00)
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To: Gabz

>>can't report what's not in the playbook dontcha know?

Or...they have those make-believe studies where they fabricate conclusions.


8 posted on 08/23/2005 5:21:44 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
Or...they have those make-believe studies where they fabricate conclusions.

Doesn't everybody?

9 posted on 08/23/2005 5:22:45 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Wolfie

I would feel more comfortable if this were coming from the NEJM, JAMA or the NIH, but, as a very heavy pot smoker 1976-1988, this is welcome news.


10 posted on 08/23/2005 5:23:02 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Wolfie

However smoking pot does make people argumentative,self-absorbed and grumpy.


11 posted on 08/23/2005 5:24:22 AM PDT by Khurkris (Ain't life funny?)
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To: Wolfie
It does, however, lead to obesity.

12 posted on 08/23/2005 5:25:05 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: The Raven
Or...they have those make-believe studies where they fabricate conclusions.

Nah the studies are real enough..............it's the "interpretation" of results which are make-believe :)

13 posted on 08/23/2005 5:25:39 AM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: atomicpossum

MMMMmmmmmmmmmmm...Alice?..is that you?


14 posted on 08/23/2005 5:26:15 AM PDT by Khurkris (Ain't life funny?)
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To: Gabz
Exactly the same way they missed the fact that second hand (tobacco) smoke does not cause lung cancer...

Isn't that a crock. For a number of years I was a weekend caregiver for an elderly lady that smoked like a chimney. She eventually died of old age, but until the end she smoked two to three packs per day. If anyone would have had the likelihood, it would have been me.

And how come Dana Reeve has lung cancer. Chris Reeve didn't smoke. Hell, he could hardly breathe. No doubt a certain number of people will get lung cancer from irritants in the air, including dust particulates. Just because people who eat donuts get colon cancer doesn't mean the donuts caused the cancer.

15 posted on 08/23/2005 5:26:35 AM PDT by CedarDave (Five years a freeper - 08/17/00)
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To: Khurkris

Argumentative ~ Rarely
Self-absorbed ~ Always
Grumpy ~ Naaaa. As long as there is something on the TV and some nachos nearby, stoners have little to be grumpy about.


16 posted on 08/23/2005 5:26:42 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: dsmatuska

deadly


17 posted on 08/23/2005 5:27:35 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Wolfie

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6629828/


18 posted on 08/23/2005 5:27:38 AM PDT by Vaquero (An armed society is a polite society.......Heinlein)
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To: atomicpossum

No stems, no seeds; that we don't need.


19 posted on 08/23/2005 5:28:10 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: CedarDave
Just because people who eat donuts get colon cancer doesn't mean the donuts caused the cancer.

Exactly. Correlation does NOT equal causation.

20 posted on 08/23/2005 5:28:36 AM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: Khurkris

Only if those people are already argumentative, self absorbed and grumpy.


21 posted on 08/23/2005 5:31:56 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Wolfie

Just a note ... it is the sugars in the processed tobbaco that does the harm.
natural cured products do much less damage.... if any any


22 posted on 08/23/2005 5:33:45 AM PDT by THEUPMAN (#### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: Khurkris

Are you sure they're smoking pot and not drinking? Pot smokers are normally very laid back (or that's what I hear).


23 posted on 08/23/2005 5:34:18 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Wolfie
International Cannabinoid Research Society

uhhhh.........yeah..........okay..........uhhhhh..........what were we talking about?............

24 posted on 08/23/2005 5:35:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? GOOOOGLE your own name. Want to have fun? GOOOOGLE your neighbor's......)
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To: Wolfie

I guess that means cigarette smoking doesn't cause lung cancer either, since it contains the same pollutants as pot except it has nicotine.

Dope smoking still makes you dopey and act goofy, plus makes you a fat lazy useless unemployable member of society.


25 posted on 08/23/2005 5:37:47 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Wolfie
Smoking Marijuana Does Not Cause Lung Cancer

Well, what are we waiting for?

Tobacco companies should extact the nicotene from tobacco.

Then extract the THC from pot.

Then put the nicotene in pot.

And finally--a safe cigarette, and I can take up smoking again!!!!

26 posted on 08/23/2005 5:41:28 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: CedarDave; Gabz

Well then.

I suppose there is something in the lungs of smokers that purifies tobbaco smoke,--

Such that their exhaled smoke is rendered harmless.


27 posted on 08/23/2005 5:43:23 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: battlegearboat

Acapulco gold is..... One bad @ss weed!

I remember that one too!


28 posted on 08/23/2005 5:43:29 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Wolfie

Yea, and tell that to Bob Marley's family.


29 posted on 08/23/2005 5:44:04 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Wolfie
No cancer but it's a strong demotivator.

For example, it took Wolfie almost 2 months after this was published to get this posted :P

30 posted on 08/23/2005 5:48:01 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: wolfcreek

Cancer from his head to his toes, IIRC.


31 posted on 08/23/2005 5:48:13 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: THEUPMAN

Sugars in processed tobacco? never heard of that one.
Tobbacco is picked, the cured in temperature/humidity controlled barns. The better control during the curing process the better the tobacco. Then it is bid on by tobacco buyers. You CAN buy tobacco leaves and grind it up yourself if you like, It doesn't taste or smoke any different than store bought tobacco, unless you get a green leaf. I used to grow and cure my own stuff, but it's a time consuming hobby.

The only additives you might find in comercial tobacco is traces of herbicides and insecticides, which may or may not have cancer causing effects.
Sugar? No way. different varities of tobacco plants is what
gives you different tobacco tastes.


32 posted on 08/23/2005 5:49:36 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Age of Reason
Must be!

I wonder what the incidence of lung cancer was in our ancestors who each night sat around the campfire for warmth and breathed smoke when the wind swirled? Oh, I forgot; they died of starvation, bear bites, bacterial/viral disease, etc. Never made it to old age.

33 posted on 08/23/2005 5:50:34 AM PDT by CedarDave (Five years a freeper - 08/17/00)
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To: Skooz

"Onward through the fog"...Oat Willie


34 posted on 08/23/2005 5:51:57 AM PDT by Birdsbane (If You Are Employed By A Liberal Democrat...Quit!)
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To: Khurkris
"However smoking pot does make people argumentative,self-absorbed and grumpy."

It never made me grumpy. Goofy, yes. But never grumpy! ;o) Then again, the last time I indulged I was barely 22 years old, so I pretty much had nothing to be grumpy about.
35 posted on 08/23/2005 5:54:39 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Age of Reason
" Well, what are we waiting for? Tobacco companies should extact the nicotene from tobacco. Then extract the THC from pot.
Then put the nicotene in pot.
And finally--a safe cigarette, and I can take up smoking again!!!!"

Grow hemp then extract the nicotine from those nicotine patches and spray it on.

But, since you've quit it's better not to take up the habit again. I've been smoke free for 7 months now, and still get the cravings once in a while, but I feel alot better, and don't have that stale smoke smell on my clothes anymore. Strange how you don't notice that when you are a smoker.

36 posted on 08/23/2005 5:59:05 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: wolfcreek
Yea, and tell that to Bob Marley's family.

Pot causes malignant melanoma?

37 posted on 08/23/2005 6:02:42 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: PaxMacian; WindMinstrel; philman_36; headsonpikes; cryptical; vikzilla; libertyman; Quick1; ...

ping


38 posted on 08/23/2005 6:10:23 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Skooz; wolfcreek

Do you think Bob Marley just smoked pot? I'll bet he found all sorts of ways to abuse himself...which, if that is typical of the longterm heavy user, is why I'm skeptical about the findings of this study.


39 posted on 08/23/2005 6:16:17 AM PDT by cloud8 (squish.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

marijuana doesn't have tar tho.


40 posted on 08/23/2005 6:25:37 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Wolfie

This isn't a very good study. You need to compare the amount of material smoked if you want to compare it to tobacco smoke. This joint-years measurement is meaningless. It should be grams of tobacco smoked versus grams of pot smoked. I think it is a rare person that smokes the equivalent of a pack or two a day of pot. What I think this study shows is that people don't smoke enough pot to cause a significant rate of cancer compared to tobacco smokers. It simply because tobacco smokers smoke a lot more than pot smokers. This also implies that someone who smokes a occasional cigarette, along the lines of a pot smoker, likely has little increased risk of developing lung cancer. With such low dosage, the body has the capacity to repair damage caused by the smoking of either substance. Heavy smoking likely overwhelms those repair mechanisms.


41 posted on 08/23/2005 6:26:05 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: PissAndVinegar; Wolfie
For example, it took Wolfie almost 2 months after this was published to get this posted :P

Ba da bing! LOL!

42 posted on 08/23/2005 6:26:29 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: cloud8
Do you think Bob Marley just smoked pot? I'll bet he found all sorts of ways to abuse himself...which, if that is typical of the longterm heavy user, is why I'm skeptical about the findings of this study.

Actually, Bob Marley was a pretty healthy guy, other wise. He abstained from alcohol and tobacco and was an avid soccer player.

His father died of skin cancer, also, which is apparently fairly prevalent among the mixed-race population in the Carribean.

43 posted on 08/23/2005 6:49:47 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Nathan Zachary
The only additives you might find in comercial tobacco is traces of herbicides and insecticides, which may or may not have cancer causing effects.

Is that so? You mean, all these are simply herbicides or insecticides? And this is just "A" through "C" of the 599 additives approved for use in cigarettes by the US Government.

* Acetanisole
* Acetic Acid
* Acetoin
* Acetophenone
* 6-Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane
* 2-Acetyl-3- Ethylpyrazine
* 2-Acetyl-5-Methylfuran
* Acetylpyrazine
* 2-Acetylpyridine
* 3-Acetylpyridine
* 2-Acetylthiazole
* Aconitic Acid
* dl-Alanine
* Alfalfa Extract
* Allspice Extract,Oleoresin, and Oil
* Allyl Hexanoate
* Allyl Ionone
* Almond Bitter Oil
* Ambergris Tincture
* Ammonia
* Ammonium Bicarbonate
* Ammonium Hydroxide
* Ammonium Phosphate Dibasic
* Ammonium Sulfide
* Amyl Alcohol
* Amyl Butyrate
* Amyl Formate
* Amyl Octanoate
* alpha-Amylcinnamaldehyde
* Amyris Oil
* trans-Anethole
* Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
* Anise
* Anise Star, Extract and Oils
* Anisyl Acetate
* Anisyl Alcohol
* Anisyl Formate
* Anisyl Phenylacetate
* Apple Juice Concentrate, Extract, and Skins
* Apricot Extract and Juice Concentrate
* 1-Arginine
* Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
* Ascorbic Acid
* 1-Asparagine Monohydrate
* 1-Aspartic Acid
* Balsam Peru and Oil
* Basil Oil
* Bay Leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
* Beeswax White
* Beet Juice Concentrate
* Benzaldehyde
* Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal
* Benzoic Acid, Benzoin
* Benzoin Resin
* Benzophenone
* Benzyl Alcohol
* Benzyl Benzoate
* Benzyl Butyrate
* Benzyl Cinnamate
* Benzyl Propionate
* Benzyl Salicylate
* Bergamot Oil
* Bisabolene
* Black Currant Buds Absolute
* Borneol
* Bornyl Acetate
* Buchu Leaf Oil
* 1,3-Butanediol
* 2,3-Butanedione
* 1-Butanol
* 2-Butanone
* 4(2-Butenylidene)-3,5,5-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexen-1-One
* Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
* Butyl Acetate
* Butyl Butyrate
* Butyl Butyryl Lactate
* Butyl Isovalerate
* Butyl Phenylacetate
* Butyl Undecylenate
* 3-Butylidenephthalide
* Butyric Acid]
* Cadinene
* Caffeine
* Calcium Carbonate
* Camphene
* Cananga Oil
* Capsicum Oleoresin
* Caramel Color
* Caraway Oil
* Carbon Dioxide
* Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
* Carob Bean and Extract
* beta-Carotene
* Carrot Oil
* Carvacrol
* 4-Carvomenthenol
* 1-Carvone
* beta-Caryophyllene
* beta-Caryophyllene Oxide
* Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
* Cassia Bark Oil
* Cassie Absolute and Oil
* Castoreum Extract, Tincture and Absolute
* Cedar Leaf Oil
* Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
* Cedrol
* Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
* Cellulose Fiber
* Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
* Chicory Extract
* Chocolate
* Cinnamaldehyde
* Cinnamic Acid
* Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
* Cinnamyl Acetate
* Cinnamyl Alcohol
* Cinnamyl Cinnamate
* Cinnamyl Isovalerate
* Cinnamyl Propionate
* Citral
* Citric Acid
* Citronella Oil
* dl-Citronellol
* Citronellyl Butyrate
* itronellyl Isobutyrate
* Civet Absolute
* Clary Oil
* Clover Tops, Red Solid Extract
* Cocoa
* Cocoa Shells, Extract, Distillate And Powder
* Coconut Oil
* Coffee
* Cognac White and Green Oil
* Copaiba Oil
* Coriander Extract and Oil
* Corn Oil
* Corn Silk
* Costus Root Oil
* Cubeb Oil
* Cuminaldehyde
* para-Cymene
* 1-Cysteine

44 posted on 08/23/2005 6:54:33 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Dope smoking still makes you dopey and act goofy, plus makes you a fat lazy useless unemployable member of society.

I know a regular pot smoker who works 12-16 hours a day and makes upwards of $400k a year. To him, you'd be considered lazy, that you have time to surf FR.

45 posted on 08/23/2005 6:56:15 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Hey Senator! Leave those kids alone!)
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To: Wolfie
Marijuana smoking -"even heavy longterm use"- does not cause cancer of the lung..Over the years, Tashkin's lab at UCLA has produced irrefutable evidence of the damage that marijuana smoke wreaks on bronchial tissue

LOL!! Time to celebrate! Dope "wreaks" bronchial tissue but doesent cause lung cancer, so lets party!! Pass that joint!

46 posted on 08/23/2005 7:01:41 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Nathan Zachary
makes you a fat lazy useless unemployable member of society.

I've never used the stuff, but I know lots and lots of people who have/do. Your comment is incorrect.

47 posted on 08/23/2005 7:02:55 AM PDT by Protagoras (Fascist thugs are as likely to be your American neighbors as Islamic terrorists.)
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To: cloud8; Skooz; wolfcreek
From what I have read Bob Marley also mixed pot with tobacco about 50/50 in his monster sized joints. I think they use tobacco laced with pot or hash in most parts of the world where they smoke it other than the U.S. I know that's the way it was done when I lived in Europe in the mid 1980's.
48 posted on 08/23/2005 8:00:51 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: Khurkris

Wow, you need a new group of stoners to hang out with. Your group sounds more like a bunch of drunks.


49 posted on 08/23/2005 8:12:57 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: TKDietz; Trailerpark Badass
> From what I have read Bob Marley also mixed pot with tobacco about 50/50 in his monster sized joints.

Yes, but as Trailerpark Badass points out, it was the melanoma that got him.

50 posted on 08/23/2005 8:20:36 AM PDT by cloud8 (squish.)
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