[RightWingAtheist]

Exactly. But the left has based its views on abortion not on any sound science, as it so often likes to claim, but the utilitarian principle that the best government is that which allows for the most pleasure and the least pain. For them, the argument that "fetuses feel no pain" serves as just a nail in their plank.

Of course the fact that some animals, even ones as advanced as fishes, don't appear to feel pain either doesn't stop the same utilitarians from use the pleasure/pain argument when arguing in favor of animal rights. But then again, logical inconsitency is the stock in trade of Peter Singer types.

[jwalsh07]

These people are disgusting. They aren't fetal pain researchers , they are Nazi scientists with an agenda. From the article:

"Administering anesthesia directly to the fetus is also sometimes done but generally to reduce the release of potentially harmful fetal stress hormones (search), Rosen (Nazi scientist) said. There is little research on its effects, the authors said."

Well the release of fetal stress hormones, which is measurable, is a direct result of pain. Babies earlier than 20 weeks have been found to release these hormones when stuck with a needle in utero. It's observable and measurable. Now tell me why should anybody trust a scientist if the scientific community doesn't reject this meta study laced with bs?